Abu Bakar Baasyir says one of the bombs used in the 2002 Bali bombings was a nuclear device.
Bashir said he got word from an expert in bombs that the device, which Amrozi is said to have made, was not a homemade bomb but a micro-nuclear one. For those who disagreed with him these words were offered:
If anyone says it was a homemade bomb it's clear that that opinion is from an idiot.
(Kalau ada yang mengatakan itu bom rakitan, jelas pernyataan itu adalah pendapat dari orang idiot.)
Speaking in Malang on the 21st Bashir urged that the matter be investigated thoroughly. He alleged that the reason this had not yet happened was pressure from the United States, which sought to cover up the truth and lay the blame on Amrozi, Amrozi being a person incapable of making such a sophisticated device.
Bashir has long been on the record as claiming that America planned and carried out the bombing in Kuta of the Paddy's nightclub and that the bomb used could not have been made by Amrozi, who Bashir seems to think of as no Einstein (see Jamestown).
On the recent travel warning from Australia Bashir said that Australia itself would create terror attacks in Indonesia. If Australia predicted there would be a terror attack it must mean that they themselves were planning it, according to Bashir's Yemeni logic:
That's their way and actually terrorism can't be separated from them, that's why they predict an attack will happen in September, because at that time they will create an attack.
(Itu kan ulah mereka dan sebenarnya teror itu tidak lepas dari mereka sendiri, makanya berani memprediksi akan terjadi pada bulan September karena pada waktu-waktu itu mereka akan berbuat.)
Prior to visiting Malang Bashir had been on a whirlwind tour across eastern Java, visiting Madiun, Ponorogo, Mojokerto, and Surabaya. Attending the celebration of the anniversary of the founding of the Front Pembela Islam, Islam Defenders' Front, (FPI) meant a trip to Jakarta interrupted his East Java odyssey. After Malang visits to Pamekasan and Probolinggo have already been pencilled in in his busy schedule.
brain stormer is playing his toys. micro nuclear bomb?
gee, how he could know about it? OMG ofcourse what a idiot, he is the puppet master… lol
this old man should be shot on his head. nuclear leave trace of radioactive, no matter how small the bomb is. and all volunteer from Aussy don’t even wear a protection suit. so where the hell the nuclear device could be then????
abubakar bashir should be bombed !!
Oh yeah, the village idiot has returned after a couple of years in prison.
I believe,abubakar bashir is Jew.he has been used by Zionist to destroy Islam.
I believe,abubakar bashir is Jew.he has been used by Zionist to destroy Islam
OMG… luny on the web.
I believe,abubakar bashir is Jew.he has been used by Zionist to destroy Islam.
how could he be a Jew? radical and rediculuos Moslem took too much crack. it’s crazy one who did the Islam break out not Jews… Jews got their own problem mate.
milisan tono : this is a part of Zionist ambitious to destroy Islam or maybe Christian-you read about ‘monalisa code’ ? who is the author ? Jews decendant !
Nuclear explosion with no post-nuke problems ?
A new Da Vinci conspiration ? We manipulate the manipulating manipulator.
ABB is just a pain in the arse of sane thinking !
bradly: Jews rejected Christ dude, so Jews are not Christian. simple is that. monalisa code? it’s a hoax by the way. so you believing that?
Molisan tono@ i do not belive either ! this is a part of Zionist to underestimate Christians or Islam
The “Da Vinci Code” is not a hoax : it’s called a novel, a “work of art”. There also “freedom” can be respected. Work of fiction, fancy — even if completely nuts…
Aiyaya ! Do we like that much cultivating differences ? Fighting like in a school-yard, like in prehistory, against the mammoths of our imagination ?
so mammoths with it bones evidences is simply school yard imagination?
of course da vinci code is real because it’s a novel, a book, but beyond the facts inside, it is pointless, mislead people who read it. is this what you call freedom? gee, yesterday i watch news on TV, sadly, i saw Moslems, stoning other Moslem house and property… because they have believing Islam in their own way.
so, let’s talk about freedom… there’s no freedom in Islam. there’s only a persecution to those who believe different way.
If Bashir is the standard of clerics leading the Indonesian Moslems then may Allah help them.
This man is a froot loop, he needs to be committed to a mental hospital. He obviously has no idea about world politics other than his own micro-biased opinions, nor does he have any idea about the physics of explosives. I mean:
Why would the CIA want to kill 200 Australian tourists – the Australians are their allies for goodness sakes.
Where is the radiation from this micro nuclear bomb and given the payload potential of such devices why wasn’t the whole of the area where the bomb exploded devestated?
Leadership is about responsibility of action. This man obviously lacks any conviction towards his own cause or he would not bother to try to seek to blame others.
He sounds like a five year old child trying to blame his big brother for a mistake he made.
Poor Indonesia I hope you find some true leadership soon – and not the prejudiced ramblings of a madman. Maybe then the uneducated radicals can be controlled.
I checked with a couple of physics experts on this and there is no such thing as micro nuclear weapons. They told me that to get a critical mass that could be exploded you would need about 20kg of uranium and then a means to drive to semi-spheres of the uranium together plus some neutron emmiters to start the nuclear chain reaction. The temperatures that would result at the epicentre would exceed 10 000C and the resulting blast would be sufficient to annihalate the entire city block and probably much wider.
If such a device had been used in Bali there would be absolutely no night club left, no survivors, no dead bodies etc as it would all be vapourised.
There is also no way to have a nuclear explosion without causing radiation.
Bashir is just seeking to put the blame on someone else when he knows he is guilty for helping to plan a massacure that killed innocent Indonesians and Australians.
well @ DDM,I belive most Indonesians are not so stupid to pick their leader.
anyway,I agree with you as long they not pick bashir as a leader !
in other words… Bashir is idiot.
i told you guys for earlier time before. this old man should be shot on his head or maybe some of you here wanna poke a micro nuclear device into his ass???
He is goin for the next pres election guys! He might make it coz 90% of Indonesian are Muslims, imagine half of them vote for him, he will be the clear winner! All those students and ex students from the pesantrens and madrassas all have to vote for him, or they risk going to hell! Abb is their mentor after all right? They will go jihad if abb said so! What makes us think they would not vote for him!
Whats worse Indonesia is in deep sh*t right now, and they thought Allah is punishing them bcoz they are not religious enuf! So they have to be more Islamic now! What could be more Islamic than abb becoming the next pres then? Do you think its too early too say that sharia is just arnd the corner?
ain’t gonna happen most idiot person rule this country. wait till you hear his comment about election, maybe he will tell you, there’s a paper shredder inside the election box.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…! *yawns!* enough fairy tale Augusto man? man of peace and tolerance?
this time I agree with you Hassan
And me too Hassan.
NO MICRO NULEAR BOMB IN BALI !
i just say that because several days after explosion, i have visited groundzero. birds, and butterflies are flying around groundzero.
if that bomb is Micronuclear, maybe Bali is like Chernobyl
Bashir’s claims aren’t so far fetched, but the blast effects of this Bali Bombing were too sophisticated in size and effect for Ambrozi and Co to carry off without Military assistance. Micro nuclear devices do exist weighing as little as 45kilograms such as the w48 155mm nuclear shell fired from US 155mm howitzer (Russia had them as well). This weapon (which some conspiracy theorist claim was used in the London bombings has a yield of 72 tons of TNT (0.072 kiloton), or orders of times bigger than the Oklahoma City Bomb (0.018 kiloton). More than that, the blast effects of a nuclear explosion, combined with heat and radiation effects would multiply the effects of the blast vs a non-military grade explosive such as an ammonium nitrate bomb (IRA), or the Fertiliser-based device used in the Oklahama City bombing.
Is is too far fetched to believe that the rise of the Police State (aka New World Order, aka Illuminati) could be responsible for bringing Australia further into line with the re-writing of laws and powers “required” to deal with “terrorism”? In my opinion, the most likely perpetrators were US Black Ops in conjunction with a JI terror cell using the SADM backpack nuclear device (which has a “dialable” yield from .01 to 1.0 kilotons).
Want to crunch technical data on why the Bali Bombing probably WAS a small nuclear device – visit http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm
In response to Wendel’s comment about the fact radiation wasn’t detected in the aftermath of the Bali Bombings, consider that the US perfected weapon designs which emit no detectable gamma radiation. That is because the new SADM weapon perfected by the US only emits alpha radiation. Here is an exerpt from http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm which I strongly recommend you read before dismissing the nuclear bomb theory.
The years rolled by and top-secret projects were initiated in America and Israel to replace the old SADM with its overly heavy weight and excess radioactivity, culminating in the successful development and testing at Dimona during 1981 of the “new” micro nuclear device. Using advanced nuclear physics, the scientists found a way of detonating the new “suitcase” bomb without the use of a Uranium 238 reflector, and further refined the Plutonium 239 in its core to 99.78%. These measures resulted in a weapon considerably smaller and lighter than SADM, which also had another enormous advantage.
The new Dimona micro nuke was the very first critical weapon that could be used in “stealth” mode. Gone was the dirty Uranium 238 reflector, and up went the purity of the smaller Plutonium 239 core. You see, Plutonium emits only alpha radiation, which for all practical purposes is “invisible” to a standard Geiger counter. If you do not believe me then ask the American Environmental Protection Agency, whose staff will confirm this.
If I were you I’d listen to what Mark has to say because he’s obviously on to something…..and I bet he didn’t get those facts from CNN of FOX News…..hehehe
.. where are the guys with the white coats and strait jackets when you need them…
Yeah, I think they said that about Newton too, didn’t they Oigal? Think about that..
Perhaps Aluang and Achmad would like to comment on this? Because I do not want to be prejudiced against Muslims here.
9/11, bali bombs ?…..one simple rule….just find out who gets the most from those incidents, and voila ! you have found the real perps….
9/11 gives a red carpet to patriot act (police state act), invasion of afghanistan, iraq, war on terror on everybody who oppose the emperor and his lackeys, full spectrum dominance of the world by the us military…..
bali bombs beget indo’s anti terror act and densus 88 anti-terror (or ‘terror’) squad to carry out the dirty works….people can be abducted at will without notice or warrant and be detained at an unlimited time and interrogated without the pressence of a lawyer….
Spot on Riyoz, that is exactly what I said. Who profits from the Bali Masacre, 9/11, Iraq Invasion, Afghanistan invasion, Iran invasion?.. it’s not rocket science. ‘Terror’ was designed to rob liberties, instill fear and cause people to surrender more and more powers to the world government (aka World Bank/WHO/G9/APEC etc). Globalisation is all about the consolidation of power and control of shipping channels/resources etc. Pretty soon ‘they’ will control your income through the monetry system and stock market, pull the strings on your loan, food, access to information, and gradually funnel you into a very gradual neocon form of slavery and mind control. The Illluminati are working on ways to keep the population in fear (new Chinese/US/Russian cold war, “Terrorism”, fear-mongering, control of the media through puppets like Rupert Murdoch, through to deliberate manipulation of the stock market). And that only scratches the surface. The thing is, people who warned against the rise of the third Reich were called crazy in the 30’s…I suppose some bloggers will no doubt label me this way. Some people will only believe when they find out they cannot buy food unless they surrender their rights to the Illuminati Government.