Siti Fadilah Supari

Apr 7th, 2008, in IM Posts, by

Siti Fadilah Supari, struggling for Islam and Indonesia against the hegemonic bules.

Health minister Siti Fadilah Supari spoke at a seminar hosted by the "Forum Kajian Sosial Kemasyarakatan" (FKSK) in Jakarta on 17th March and said that Islamic ideology was the most complete and was best suited for Indonesia.

"Forum Kajian Sosial Kemasyarakatan" (FKSK), is a front organisation for the radical group Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia (HTI), which campaigns for a worldwide Islamic caliphate and seems to regard Indonesia as the most promising place to get things moving in that direction.

Siti Fadilah Supari
Siti Fadilah Supari

Westerners & Hegemony

Indonesians usually felt inferior when they met westerners, she said, officials bowed and scraped to them, and westerners were tricky:

We get fooled [by foreigners].

Siti said it was about time that the first world stopped using force against the third world, which was majority Muslim.

Hegemony doesn't benefit anyone.

Foreigners acted as if they wanted to help Indonesia but what they did was actually dangerous for humanity:

Don't let us hope for help from others, trust in Allah only.

WHO

Siti Fadilah spoke about how for the last 50 years the advanced countries had forced other countries to send virus samples to the World Health Organisation (WHO), samples (like for bird flu) which were then handed over to the US government and put to use for biological weapons development or for commercial purposes.

Siti said she could not stand the injustice of the WHO policy, and has penned a book on the subject, titled "Time For The World To Change, The Hand Of God In Bird Flu". She broke into tears and said of the reasons for writing the book:

If it's useful for Muslims, then why not?

Siti felt confident that the divine was on her side: [1]

When you are carrying out Allah's work, don't have any doubts.

Bird Flu

Meanwhile the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization warned recently that the avian/bird flu problem in Indonesia showed no signs of improvement, with containment of the epidemic among poultry being very weak.

Dr. Joseph Domenech, the agency's chief veterinary officer, blamed decentralization in government, a shortage of veterinarians, indifference by commercial producers, a lack of political commitment, and too many backyard chickens. [2]


40 Comments on “Siti Fadilah Supari”

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  1. avatar PrimaryDrive says:
    April 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Well … you folk voted en mass for SBY. You’re fortunate Siti is not given the chair of Bapenas.

    Hell, maybe next time I should run for presidency myself. Vote for me!

  2. avatar HItam TApi CIna says:
    April 7th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    That’s what I call “Buruk Rupa Cermin dibelah”. This is a disgrace.

    The Health Minister is blaming others for her inadequacy. Even worst, she is trying to twist the real health problem into an international political problem.

    Can anyone in Indonesia really run the country?
    Bird Flu is going to be the next world epidemic. Last Flu pandemic 30 years ago 1/3 of the world population died of flu. With that kind of attitude, I predict at least 1/3 of Indonesia population will also die from flu. May be even more, considering how poor our health service is both private and public.

    Simple logic, I would say.

    If the health minister cannot even control Dengue Fever which infects 150 thousand people in our big cities and caused 1500 death each year, why would anyone think she would be able to prevent bird flu from becoming the next number one killer?

    While the world is rushing to find bird flu vaccine for human, our minister is busy playing her own blame game. Not even that, she would not even cooperate with the international health authorities which in this case have better system, better technology, and smarter brain than hers.

    People, you better pray for your life because bird flu pandemic is coming this decade and at least 1 of 3 indonesian will die of it.

  3. avatar Pena Budaya says:
    April 7th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    She should not bring religion and race to this issue, people could easily twisted it back to her.

    Well folks, I have to say that there are many injustice international policies in the health sector. I can understand Supari’s anger but unfortunately she brought up religion and race issues behind this that make her looks irrational. Anyway, WTO agreements like TRIPS and GATT failed to protect the needs of the developing countries in obtaining cheap pharmacies products or to have transfer knowledge in regards to advance technology related to public services. (meanwhile in other hand, international organisation like EPO could earn billions euros from giving away the patent).

    Supari’s struggle was covered by the Economist magazine as well and it was summarized here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2067802/Perlawanan-Siti-Fadilah-Supari

  4. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:
    April 7th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    That woman is a munafiq. A real muslimah wouldn’t have her picture taken without wearing jilbab.

  5. avatar Deng Xiao Phing says:
    April 7th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    no u can’t blame on her, she is wearing Javanese kebaya, the standard without jilbab. However she tries to cover-up her incompetencies on tackling the bird-flu contagious spreading across Indonesia by blaming on UN’s taking side with Westerner countries. She is living in Reformation era with traditional ORBA’s strategy, she is looking for excuses by hiding behind the facism / extrimist ideology and dilute her incompetency topics toward S A R A topic.

  6. avatar Mehameha says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 7:12 am

    With ignorant and delusional people like her running the country, no wonder Indonesia remains poor in spite of its resources. Very, very sad.

  7. avatar jackie says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    That woman is a munafiq. A real muslimah wouldn’t have her picture taken without wearing jilbab.

    My dear drga, that’s not what meant by munafiq (hypocrite). Besides, many good muslimah wears no jilbab. Sorry to her, btw, for speaking for the good of HTI, made her looked fool.

  8. avatar Bogalakon says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Well, Siti Fadilah Supari is our Hero, she is trying to protect us against greedy Bule who wants to gain profit behind bird flu pandemic. I am not surprised if she’s making many westerners upset, because a woman like her is an clear and present obstacle for White men’s dirty ambition to re-colonize Indonesia.

  9. avatar Andrew says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    First of all, what the hell has the Department of Health got to do with religion – why did she have to bring religion into the equation? It is a “leader” like this who incites unnecessary hatred.

    Secondly – she talked as if Indonesia didn’t benefit from any of the advancement in western medicine. She puts Indonesians in the position of a victim. No wonder Indonesia has always been occupied by other civilization – either physically or in the state of mind.

    How many of our so-called “leaders” have that mentality?

  10. avatar PrimaryDrive says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 2:49 am

    Andrew: How many of our so-called “leaders” have that mentality?

    The way I see it, to win a precidency election in Indonesia one has to consort with an islamic party. Consequently, if you win (as did SBY) you will have to appease them. Ministery of health is in that respect a pretty harmless post. So, like I said before, just be happy it’s not Bapenas or other strategic posts that were given away.

    Unfortunately, this construction will be a constant regardless who runs the country. With 80% moslems, no purely secular coalition can win it. So … it is the moslems that decide the country future. They are the crucial key stone that will allow the country to leap forward, but ironically also to deny it from.

  11. avatar Rob says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 4:36 am

    Do you think that a concept like the separation of Mosque and State will ever take hold in Indonesia’s fledgeling democracy?

    Because if Primary Drive is right then Indonesia is still along way from being a secular democracy and is destined never to be a secular democracy if the type of democracy and policy of government is determined based on religion or the pandering to religious interests.

    Perhaps Indonesia will develop as a fully functioning non-secular democracy…who knows…I am always hopeful that tomorrow is better than today!

    Time will tell…

  12. avatar Murphy says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 11:13 am

    I think we should put her statements in context. She was riding on her success of pushing the WHO to give Indonesia better deal (which is good), and she was talking to the HTI, for **** sake.

    Why she accepted invitation from the HTI is really beyond me. I wouldn’t touch these people with 10-feet pole if I were her. But other than that she does an OK job on the health education and patient treatment in terms of bird flu. All of those patients got the best treatment technology can give, paid by the government. They were practically knocked down and put on life support once they were diagnosed with bird flu. The incubation period is 20 days after which the virus will self destruct. The idea is to keep them alive during those 20 days and see if the survivors managed to produce the specific antibodies.

    The eradication of the virus, on the other hand, is very much the responsibility of the Agriculture Minister (it’s a poultry disease) and the local government (to do proper surveillance of backyard farms). You can see the factors affecting the spread of bird flu in the last paragraph of the article. None of them mentioning the health ministry responsibility.

  13. avatar PrimaryDrive says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Rob: Perhaps Indonesia will develop as a fully functioning non-secular democracy”¦who knows”¦I am always hopeful that tomorrow is better than today!

    By that time, I afraid It will already be too late; as it is, it will take a long way to go there, and our recourses will continue to deplete fast under naive leadership.

    Another alternative is to let the two poles, the fundamentalists and the moderns, to go each own way. Obviously we have a conflict of ideas and interests.

  14. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    @ jacqie

    My dear drga, that’s not what meant by munafiq (hypocrite).

    Yes she’s a munafiq because if she would have appeared with jilbab nobody in the outside world would take her statements seriously.

  15. avatar Murphy says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    dewaratugedeanom said:

    Yes she’s a munafiq because if she would have appeared with jilbab nobody in the outside world would take her statements seriously.

    Sure. And I guess everybody’s supposed to take your wise words seriously.

  16. avatar Lairedion says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 3:11 am

    Islamic ideology was the most complete and was best suited for Indonesia.

    Good to have the confirmation Islam is an ideology.

    Apart from that this lady is not fit to be a minister. She’s favoritising Islam and paid a visit to the HTI, a bunch of thugs who have no interest in sovereign countries and nations.

    Sure. And I guess everybody’s supposed to take your wise words seriously.

    You should. Bli Dewa is one the smartest persons here on IM.

  17. avatar Cukurungan says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 7:29 am

    You should. Bli Dewa is one the smartest persons here on IM.

    Only the dumbest people on the earth who disagree with you

  18. avatar Cukurungan says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 8:18 am

    Sorry I almost missed the most important point about his distinctive from the other commenter; He is the only one who able to think the outside box.

  19. avatar HItam TApi CIna says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    You all are obviously blind.

    In the history of Pandemic flus, most of them came from mutated animal flu viruses, either birds or live stocks which were then transmitted to human then spread from human to human.

    Not only WHO, but most experts in virology and infectious disease now have predicted that the next pandemic flu will kill at least 180-360 million people.

    The last thing I heard in Thailand, there was 1 case where bird flu virus can be transmitted from human to human.

    Bird flu is not a disease of chickens and ducks, it will kill you because you dont have any immunity to it and from the indonesian bird flu statistics 98% died with the way Indonesian doctors were treating them.

    As comparison, SARS kill 1 % of its victims, Dengue kills 1-10% of its victims.

    With a health minister who cares more about her own dignity than saving life, I am afraid most of you will be doomed when bird flu virus really become contagious in human.

    Indonesia cannot even control dengue fever, tuberculosis, malaria by itself, let alone bird flu.

  20. avatar HItam TApi CIna says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Correction guys,

    It spreading from man to man already in Tangerang Jakarta last month and
    Mortality rate of bird flu in Indonesia is 80%.

  21. avatar Murphy says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    @HitamTapiCina

    You will probably have more credibility if you kindly tell us what is this “way Indonesian doctors were treating them” and how it is different then other doctors way.

    Maybe you should also enlighten us how the health minister could have the bigger responsibility than the Agriculture Minister or local governments in terms of eradicating bird flu. There’s no credible case of human-to-human transfer in Indonesia.

    Also please let us know any details unknown to WHO who blamed:

    decentralization in government, a shortage of veterinarians, indifference by commercial producers, a lack of political commitment, and too many backyard chickens

    as the culprit for the persistence of bird flu in Indonesia. If you insist on blaming the health minister, surely you must have more data than this Dr. Joseph Domenech, WHO Chief Veterenary Officer.

    I was living in Singapore with my 3 months old son when SARS hit the city in 2003. You don’t know how does it feel to live in such fear. You don’t know how does it feel to be asked to leave a taxi just because the driver heard you sneeze or to be suspended from work because you happened to visit a friend who caught common cold. Bird flu is dangerous; even more fatal than SARS. But there is one important difference. There’s no human to human transfer so far. Bird flu doesn’t make you treat your fellow human being with suspicion like SARS did.

    The doctor who treat the bird flu patients everyday at Persahabatan Hospital happened to be my close acquaintance. He shared the story of every single patients he treated. That’s how I know how they treated the patients and how much the government spent for them. The measures they took were much more extreme than the ones taken by the doctors at Singapore Tan Tock Seng hospital for the SARS patients. And I guess you don’t live in Indonesia, so you don’t see the incessant advertisements and commercials to educate people about the danger of this flu. Many things you probably wouldn’t bother to check before writing your harsh comments.

    So don’t you dare telling me how dangerous bird flu is or what way Indonesian doctors treat the patients just by quoting numbers from Wikipedia.

    I’m not defending the Indonesian government lousy marks in eradicating bird flu. They have a lot more to do. I am just telling you that by blaming the Health Minister, you were barking at the wrong tree.

    Or, does all this alarmist harsh accusations come because Ms. Fadilah dared to say “Islam”. The word you happen to hate most?

  22. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Lairedion

    You should. Bli Dewa is one the smartest persons here on IM.

    I wish I knew how to make that blushing emoticon. I could ask Marisa but I think she’s still pissed.

  23. avatar Lairedion says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 2:55 am

    Only the dumbest people on the earth who disagree with you

    Thanks for your appreciation, Cuk.

    You see Dewa, even Cuk agrees. About Marisa, I’m afraid she’s a lost love :-(

  24. avatar Murphy says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Lairedion said:

    You should. Bli Dewa is one the smartest persons here on IM.

    Dewaratugedeanom said:

    I wish I knew how to make that blushing emoticon.

    Awww. Isn’t that sweet. Maybe you two should get a room.

  25. avatar Lairedion says:
    April 11th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Awww. Isn’t that sweet. Maybe you two should get a room.

    Awww. Isn’t that sweet? He’s jealous. :-)

  26. avatar Ebi says:
    April 12th, 2008 at 7:47 am

    Some Indonesian government officials are so naive. They should open their eyes and realize that Indonesia’s name is identical with bad things. It can be proud of being the 4th most populous country, but it’s not even being considered seriously internationally. Check the weather page in any foreign newspaper, most likely you’ll see Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, but not Jakarta.

    And bird flu is the worst, because without serious political will to stop the spread of epidemic, Indonesia will need to be responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths.

    As if Indonesia’s name is not bad enough. :(

  27. avatar areocam says:
    April 12th, 2008 at 9:48 am

    @hitam tapi cina

    Last Flu pandemic 30 years ago 1/3 of the world population died of flu.

    No, they didn’t. This from Stamford University’s website: http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

    The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as “Spanish Flu” or “La Grippe” the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster.

    You have the internet at your fingertips! Why invent data? As it has been said previously, this damages your credibility and gives fodder to any who would attack you.

    I agree with your stance on this issue but you are using dubious facts and this is dangerous!

    If you’re going to use data or facts like this in your writing, please be kind enough to check them first!

  28. avatar areocam says:
    April 12th, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Again @ HTC

    So, even if you weren’t talking about this epidemic, which I think you might be, I can find no evidence of this disastrous event 30 years ago!

    The population of the world 30 years ago, 1978 to be precise, was 4.3 billion. Now, 1/3 of this is 1.43 billion. I’m 36 and remember skylab crashing to Earth around this time, I remember Star Wars came out and I remember there was a band called Abba. What I don’t remember is 1.43 billion people dying.

    This is just ridiculous! Whatever message you were trying to get across is now void.

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say that every poster should cross-reference their facts but I would say that if you do present data like this, prepare for it to be torn to pieces!

  29. avatar Rob says:
    April 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Whether Jakarta is in a list of the weather of the world’s cities is hardly a determiner of international recognition and whether other countries consider you to be an international player…the last weather list I looked at included Ulaan Bataar in Mongolia!

    Naivety seems not to be a uniquely Indonesian trait!

    Presumably, the “identical to bad things” is a suggestion to not only bird flu, but to matters such as corruption and terrorism. Once again, Indonesia does not have a monopoly on these matters. To suggest that it does is somewhat simplistic and naive.

    Bird flu is a world problem because there are worldwide ramifications if it is left unaddressed. To suggest Indonesia would be responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths is a stretch and an assertion bordering on the ridiculous! It would seem that bird flu does not discriminate and as such the world needs to take more responsibility for the ‘handling’ and management of this!

    Indeed, I agree with you that there needs to be political will in facing what potentially is something which can spread far ans wide. Maybe it is a case of good luck rather than good management but the pandemic is not out of control at this point in time by all accounts. Therefore, the political will that is required is to ensure that it does not get out of control!

    Whether the Minister wears the veil or jilbab is not relevant to how she does her job! My understanding of the Al-Qu’ran, limited as it is, suggests that women (and men) are to dress modestly. The issue is, who interprets modesty?

  30. avatar Goju says:
    June 6th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Hey I got a great idea – Indonesia should just stop reporting human cases…

    Duh… silly me, they did that today.

    It is another crime against humanity. The first is not sharing viral samples.

    80+% CFR – The most cases in the world – H5N1 endemic throughout the country.

    This is insane.

    Indonesia must be at Phase 4 or higher for them to do this.

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