38 Comments on “Carissa Putri & Melanie Putria on Polygamy”

1. Sylvester Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 4:34 am

   Melanie seems to have more brain than the idiot Carissa.
   Polygamy again. Women always be put as second class human in Islam.

2. Cukurungan Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 7:55 am

   Melanie seems to have more brain than the idiot Carissa.
   Polygamy again. Women always be put as second class human in Islam.

   But Carissa has more brain than Sylvester because Sylvester prefer to consume a boy than a girl as his belief taught so.

3. sputjam Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 9:56 am

   there are some who will willingly blow themselves up and kill many innocents around them for their beliefs, so submitting to plygamous relationship is nothing in comparison.
   In bhutan, women are allowed to marry more than one man and get to keep inheritance money.
   In tokyo, there are nightclubs that caters to women and the gro’s are young hunks.

4. Martin Manurung Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 11:19 am

   Polygamy is alright if Polyandry is allowed.

5. Riyoz Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am

   “Melanie seems to have more brain than the idiot Carissa.
   Polygamy again. Women always be put as second class human in Islam.”

   It’s their free choice, I think you should respect that….and which do you think is the lowest, being a second wife or being a mistress ?….second class human ? does Playboy magazine promotes women’s dignity ? does the Miss World peagent, where smart and highy intelligent women won’t be a winner unless they put on the bikinis, promotes women’s dignity ?…..get real man !…..

6. Janma Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 11:35 am

   I don’t see why a bikini robs a woman of her dignity?

7. Murphy Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 11:55 am

   Of course not.

   The bikini is actually supposed to show how smart the ladies are. You see, only the smartest one can work out how to develop such curvaceous figure; and watching the show I must admit, intelligence is a real turn on!

   Remember, the Miss World is not a beauty contest. It’s about brain and beauty, and oh, yes… world peace.

   Go Miss World !

8. Riyoz Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

   I don’t know about you….but to me personally, walking on the catwalk and showing private parts to other people is a robbery….that women are still judge by their bodies and looks, no matter how smart or educated they are, is utterly mean !!

9. Riyoz Says:
   March 12th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

   “The bikini is actually supposed to show how smart the ladies are. You see, only the smartest one can work out how to develop such curvaceous figure; and watching the show I must admit, intelligence is a real turn on! ”

   ….see what I mean, Janma ? ‘Beauty’ = ‘Body’, beauty of the heart has no value in this materialistic world….

10. Cukurungan Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Polygamy is alright if Polyandry is allowed.

    In our belief polygamy is allowed but Polyandry is not but if you want to be involved in the polyandry that is your own business we do not care.

11. Sylvester Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Again and again.
    Cuk is in panic mode, talking rubbish, LOL. When someone starts to attack a person rather than the idea, it means she/he is losing. Pathetic.

12. Murphy Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Like this?

    Melanie seems to have more brain than the idiot Carissa.

13. Oigal Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Its amusing to watch the drongos try defend the indefensible…

14. Oigal Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Riyoz, Try and pay attention, the topic is polygamy not beauty pageants or bikinis

15. Cukurungan Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Try and pay attention, the topic is polygamy not beauty pageants or bikinis

    What is wrong with polygamy, God allowed us (the wise and best man on earth) to take care more than one woman why like that because we able to do so. If you can not do that just go to Mak Erot ask for her therapy.

16. Lairedion Says:
    March 12th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Nobody is forcing girls to pose in Playboy or to engage in Miss contests. Like Riyoz said:

    It’s their free choice, I think you should respect that”¦

    Carissa said:

    I wouldn’t want to be the second wife.

    It’s better to be the second wife. You can consult the first wife about your future spouse (e.g. if the sex is satisfying) and it’s likely you’re given more attention than the first wife…

    Melanie, a former Putri Indonesia, performs daily prayers, or sholat, but says she has no idea of the meaning of doing so

    At least she’s honest about it….

17. dewaratugedeanom Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    Personally I would never marry 2 wives. They inevitably end up conspiring against you. So I’ll go right for 3 or more.

18. Riyoz Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 10:17 am

    “Riyoz, Try and pay attention, the topic is polygamy not beauty pageants or bikinis”

    Oh..does that mean I can’t talk about something else ? I was trying to compare things, man…Besides muslims are not compelled to have a polygamous marriage anyway….there’s no verse in the Quran that compells us muslims to have more than one wife, polygamy is a choice…God allows us to marry more than one wife but with a specific requirement, that we have to deal justly with them, if we can’t then only one…”marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, “….that’s the verse An Nisa’ 4 : 3….I personally stick to one wife…:) more than enough for me….

19. Lairedion Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    @dewa

    Smart move. By marrying three they will turn on against each other and you can stay on the sideline waiting for those three seeking comfort with you after brawling with the other(s).

    As a non-Muslim I’m curious if threesomes (or moresomes) are also automatically divinely sanctioned in a polygamous relationship?

20. Cukurungan Says:
    March 13th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    As a non-Muslim I’m curious if threesomes (or moresomes) are also automatically divinely sanctioned in a polygamous relationship?

    Hi hi hi …..you do not so curious ..because, the available evidence is clearly indicated that threesomes or moresome are commonly sanctioned only in the non-Muslim society especially can be seen in video of the western sex parties and free sex life style.

21. MarkyMarc Says:
    March 14th, 2008 at 8:04 am

    Guys,

    You should try and get your hands on the TV series called “Big Love”… ha ha ha… It deals with polygamy in Utah in the US….it’s got me hooked!

    Makes the whole ‘romance’ of having more than one wife vanish completely! You would have to be a glutton for punishment whether you are the husband or wife/wives.. Good luck to all who do it successfully!

22. pj_bali Says:
    March 14th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Lairedion

    As a non-Muslim I’m curious if threesomes (or moresomes) are also automatically divinely sanctioned in a polygamous relationship?

    Apparently it is (with some restrictions). Here is the link. Personally I think religion or politics have no place in the bedroom.

    http://ubergirl87.blogspot.com/2008/01/organized-religion-makes-me-uneasy.html

    I find this gal to be quite a good read.

    Cheers

23. Lairedion Says:
    March 14th, 2008 at 10:41 am

    pj_bali,

    Thanks for the link. Some interesting thoughts she’s expressing there…

    From what I understand is that the women involved are not allowed to see each other’s private parts and then it’s basically OK. Why not blindfold the women or make use of darkrooms? It gives the threesome some kinky edges. Also, a threesome is the perfect way for a Muslim man to treat both wives equally.

24. Cukurungan Says:
    March 14th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Dear Kalanalaka,

    Pig doesn’t has any culture just like you pig just f**k whatever pig want to f**k …do not forget just like you …but I am a muslim man, God has given us a privelage to marry more than one women not just f**king like you.

    Regard,
    Cheer Man

25. dewaratugedeanom Says:
    March 15th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Lairedion

    From what I understand is that the women involved are not allowed to see each other’s private parts and then it’s basically OK.

    They are not allowed to see each other’s private parts because if they do they might turn gay and that’s haram. Astaghfirullah!

26. Oigal Says:
    March 15th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Pig doesn’t has any culture just like you pig just f**k whatever pig want to f**k “¦do not forget just like you “¦but I am a muslim man

    And what a fine example ..chuckle..although I doubt it

27. Lairedion Says:
    March 15th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    @Cuk,

    Thanks for the appreciation.

28. Cukurungan Says:
    March 17th, 2008 at 7:26 am

    And what a fine example ..chuckle..although I doubt it

    Do not you read all my posting? I always try to make my beloved brother of the infidels happy and smile.

29. Agusto Says:
    March 18th, 2008 at 5:34 am

    Oh dear, look at these women, they are all half naked! They are a very bad influence to our sexy burqa clad sis. They are evil to the core, it is pornography, we should go jihad on them.

30. Riyoz Says:
    March 18th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    “You should try and get your hands on the TV series called “Big Love””¦ ha ha ha”¦ It deals with polygamy in Utah in the US”¦.it’s got me hooked!”

    hmmmm…I wonder…did this series caused an uproar in the west ?….especially among the feminist activists ?….

31. Purba Negoro Says:
    March 22nd, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Sputjam: yet more bluster from a ignoramus.

    Your snide sdie-swipe at Islam in your sentence implies that viz a vs your lack of moral fibre- you must be Australian or English- as you lack the testes to state something openly and forthright with conviction.

    Rather pathetic commentary from bules.

    Please read a book- illiteracy and total ignorance (aka self-engrossment) may be newly fashionable amongst the G8- but not here.
    Though I quote the very humourous Wiliam Monkhouse:

    There was an old fellow of Lyme
    Who lived with three wives at one time.
    When asked, ‘Why the third?’
    He replied, ‘One’s absurd,
    and bigamy, sir, is a crime.

    Actually there is only one phrase in the entire Q’uran about Poligamy.
    Furthermore the Quran is the only religious tect to mention- then Marry once.
    In Surah Nissah God allows a Muslim to marry, one, two, three or four women as long as he can do justice between them. If the man can’t do justice, the exhortation for him is: “… then marry only once”.

    It was revealed to Mohammed after a defeat by Pagans in Medina- where many women were left widowed.
    Thus the verse specifically infers poligamy refers in times of war when there are inevitably large numbers of widows and girls whose fiancées and husbands have been killed in the fighting.

    The choice, for most Western women- is between a chaste and childless old maidenhood, or becoming somebody’s mistress,- essentially an unofficial second wife without legal rights or resultant offspring.
    Globally, most women have always wanted and still do want the security of a legal husband and family.

    The compromise therefore is for women under these circumstances to face that if given the alternative many of them would rather share a husband than have none at all.

    And of course polygamy must be with full consent of the first wife.

    It’s interpretation according to most Islamic moderates- including Abdul A Gymnastiar (who ironically got a leggy 2nd wife) the verse is regarding charity- to take in orphaned children or elderly ugly widows as a means of supporting them financially and avoiding endemic poverty.

    This passage is much over-hyped by the West- rather odd considering their Jewish bedfellows dispute the entire basis of their religion, ridicule them as heretics and claim their Messiah never was- and that Christians and non-Jews (aka Goyim) according to Professor Shahak of Israel:
    “According to the Jewish religion, the murder of a Jew is a capital offense and one of the three most heinous sins (the other two being idolatry and adultery). Jewish religious courts and secular authorities are commanded to punish, even beyond the limits of the ordinary administration of justice, anyone guilty of murdering a Jew. . . . When the victim is a Gentile, the position is quite different. A Jew who murders a Gentile is guilty only of a sin against the laws of Heaven, not punishable by a court. To cause indirectly the death of a Gentile is no sin at all.”

    Thus,
    I am a Kejawen- but I take the Quran as an article of history and it must be read in its’ context.
    Can we ever eliminate the bullshit and focus on the facts?

32. Man Power Says:
    March 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 am

    Hey you guys are talking jive, let them marry twice third, and so on. Why do you insult a religion for this matter, you see all people out there in USA, Aussie or even Indonesia have sex for no reason like animal.

33. Rob Says:
    March 23rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Man Power, I guess this means that animals have sex just for fun!

    I figured that there was difference between sex in the general sense and the debate on whether polygamy is an acceptable practice and the justification for its practice.

    Polygamy in its origins were for the reasons as pointed out by Purba Negoro in his post. If a religion permits polygamy or polyandry then the question is whether the State should become involved in regulating the practice. The US does for certain Mormon sects that maintain polygamous traditions. The State is to some degree involved in the regulation of polygamy in Indonesia. This is not in prohibiting the practice but rather regulating a set of conditions that must be satisfied before a polygamous marriage would be deemed legal.

    AA Gym’s case is an interesting one because there were mixed feelings and emotions on whether this was a good move. Where there was plenty of social commentary about the pros and cons of the practice of polygamy. This commentary did not really make arguments for the prohibition of the practice on religious grounds but rather this was the perpetuation of a culture of violence against women. I would need to research and read more on the bases of these arguments to legitimately comment.

    Unfortunately, the part about Jews and Gentiles is a little of track for a polygamy debate as it is a topic in itself! Perhaps this could be a separate IM entry?

34. Janma Says:
    March 24th, 2008 at 11:36 am

    Poor Nigre…..said

    you must be Australian or English- as you lack the testes to state something openly and forthright with conviction.

    I always wondered why I don’t have testes! NOw the answer!

35. Janma Says:
    March 24th, 2008 at 11:43 am

    And he also said;

    The choice, for most Western women- is between a chaste and childless old maidenhood, or becoming somebody’s mistress,- essentially an unofficial second wife without legal rights or resultant offspring.

    Excuse Me????!!!! Number one, since when are womens lives defined by these two meager choices!? Chaste maidenhoods went out with Queen Victoria in case you hadn’t noticed, and womens lives are not defined by their sex lives!
    And you are saying there are no lonely childless old men? And as for becoming someones mistress being a choice for women????? What about kept men? Never happens? There are many men mistresses you know!
    Oh my God, I don’t know why I even bother to answer such tripe!? What’s wrong with me… (kurang kerjaan kali…..)
    *Janma puts on her breathless blonde voice….* “oh thank the Lord for polygamy! I would never get a man otherwise!”

36. Rob Says:
    March 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Janma…

    I have always preferred the term “testicular fortitude” when referring to men who lack conviction…I guess the female equivalent would have to be “ovarial fortitude”!

    But when it is all said and done, I think name calling and going off on tangents detracts from the overall argument and that is why I did not address them in my post. The points that were made regarding the origins of polygamy are reasons often trotted out for why the practice exists. I am not for or against the practice but feel that what is good for the gander must be equally as good for the goose!

    Better a woman defend against those two meagre choices. As a man I figured there would have been more choices for women but then again I guess if men are allowed to dictate the debate then that might turn out to be the only two choices permitted in sime ugly male-dominated world of the future. In any event I think a little research would bear out the facts that some women choose not to get married, choose not to have children, and choose to work, and this does not necessarily make them chaste old maids. Once again if women allow men to dictate the debate this will continue to be the stupid stereotypes that pervade the discussion.

    I guess I should be happy that I am a man!

    Janma…there has to be a better term than “man mistress”! I know what you mean though!

    Nice posts in defence of modern womanhood! Keep ‘em coming!

37. Danny Says:
    April 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 am

    If god intended man and women to be as we say equal he would have only created one sex. The fact that women in modern day dont accept polygamy is due to there western influence. Polygamy has been around since the Dawn of man. I think its ok as long as the partied involved are doing it for the right reasons. My self i could not imagine to women complaining to me. I suggest for those who want to understand polygamy need to also understand nature. Men and women where made to procreate and natural selections doenst exist anymore since its all about the benjamins.

38. Abu Aisyah Says:
    May 7th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Polygami is a syari’ah from Moslem. That is from god. But the implementation of this syari’ah has negatif viewed from some people who doesn’t know how to aplicate polygami.

    Polygami in moslem teach us to compliant, obedient, and as examination from god. Look at Mohamed, he do polygami but with a wise way. And many shohabah doing polygami, even ulama. Polygami is a syari’ah.

    Even history kings scandinavia, europe, or many country even in Bible, moslem, budha, or hindu their propet has polygami too. Not to degrade women, but to regard and respectfull. In moslem, women is like a flower. Being respect, and decorus.

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