Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah

Oct 10th, 2007, in IM Posts, by

Mini theocracy in Bogor and Padang.

MUI Fatwa

On 4th October the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) issued a fatwa against the "Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah" sect, which is led by Ahmad Moshaddeq, real name Salam.

MUI Chairman, Ma'ruf Amin said the sect had grown rapidly since 2000 and that since July 23rd 2007 Ahmad Moshaddeq had been claiming to be a prophet after he spent 40 days and nights in meditation at Mount Bunder, Bogor, West Java.

The MUI spent 3 months studying the group before finally deciding that it was heretical, and had already informed the police of its decision, in the hope that Ahmad Moshaddeq would be prosecuted for blasphemy against Islam. [1]

Police Action

After the fatwa, in Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah's home base of Bogor, police sealed off two villas belonging to Ahmad Moshaddeq on 5th October, apparently to prevent any attacks on the properties from aggressively orthodox-minded Muslims.

Meanwhile in Padang, West Sumatra, similar to last year's legal-police assualt on the Jamiyatul Islamiyah sect, the Provincial Prosecutor's Office formally banned Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah, and police raided the group's headquarters and took into custody 11 of its members, again supposedly to protect them from attack by other, excitable, Islamic groups. All 11 were later released, although Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah's local leader, 44-year-old Dedi Priadi, is required to report himself to the police station once a day.

In West Sumatra, Dedi Priadi claims Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah has 4000 followers, mostly young people. In his teachings, he says praying once a day at night, instead of five times, is adequate, but denies that the sect is blasphemous.

Gusrizal Gazahar of the West Sumatra branch of the Indonesian Ulema Council said they had been monitoring the sect for some time and had even sent two spies inside the organization.

The sect is misleading and not Islam. But it claims to be Islam so we ask the government to ban it and call its members to return to the right path.

Story continued at http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1457/muslim-beliefs/.


80 Comments on “Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah”

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  1. avatar Hassan says:
    October 10th, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    they had been monitoring the sect for some time and had even sent two spies inside the organization.

    The name’s Bond. James Bond.

  2. avatar Raden says:
    October 10th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    Wow, so many ‘illegal sect’? Then so many fatwa? Then police must detain them one by one? This is suck! No wonder bangsa Indonesia backward a few decades by transforming like Arab.

  3. avatar Janma says:
    October 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    The name’s Bond, Sharia Bond.

  4. avatar iamisaid says:
    October 11th, 2007 at 1:10 am

    Why is all this re-occuring?
    Simply because these people have too much idle time.

  5. avatar John Orford says:
    October 11th, 2007 at 1:31 am

    Aren’t christianity and judaism heretical forms of islam too?

  6. avatar new messenger says:
    October 11th, 2007 at 1:59 am

    ASHADU ALA ILLA HAILLALLOH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD ROSULULLOH.

    Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near

    Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    Say: “O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He that giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believed in Allah and His Words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided.”

    Say: “If ye do love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

    Say: “Obey Allah and His Messenger”: but if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith.

  7. avatar Hassan says:
    October 11th, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    OK new messenger, so which religion should we follow to enter this kingdom of heaven?

  8. avatar Pakmantri says:
    October 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    Zoroastrianism …………..

  9. avatar Hassan says:
    October 12th, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Perhaps mr. new messenger is a follower of this Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah sect. Who knows?

  10. avatar Janma says:
    October 13th, 2007 at 8:41 am

    Hassan said:

    Perhaps mr. new messenger is a follower of this Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah sect. Who knows?

    I could tell that’s what you were getting at from the post before that where you asked him his religion Hassan….. I get the feeling that you think that would be a bad thing? Why? Anyway, he seems to have been scared off now.

  11. avatar Hassan says:
    October 13th, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    Janma:

    I get the feeling that you think that would be a bad thing? Why?

    No. I asked him about what religion we should follow because I’m just curious. Why? Because new messenger mixed passages from the Bible and the Qur’an in his post. So, I was just asking him straight up, what message did he really want to convey to the rest of us?

  12. avatar Joy says:
    October 13th, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    Hassan, I do not know what New Messenger religion is. What if his religion is different than yours?

    Well, I have something that maybe helpful!
    Folks, sorry for the long post.

    The “Treat Others” Creed
    1. I choose to be patient with others, because I know how demanding others’ expectations can be.
    2. I choose kindness over passivity; because I’ve desperately needed others’ help in my life.
    3. I refuse jealousy and envy; and choose joy instead, for the good things in others lives.
    4. I refuse to lift up my own accomplishments; I choose instead to build up others
    first, because I know what it feels like to be “invisible”.
    5. I refuse rudeness; and choose courtesy instead, because I long to be respected by others.
    6. I refuse to fight to get my “own way”, because I can feel how ugly it makes my soul.
    7. I refuse to be provoked to selfish anger, because I’m capable of making mistakes that irritate others.
    8. I refuse to “keep a list” of wrongs suffered, because I’m in constant need of “forgiving” grace.
    9. I refuse to be secretly happy when a bad thing happens to a rival, because I know the pain of others “enjoying” my misfortune.
    10. I choose to “stick around” and endure when another fails me more than once, because I, too, am prone to failure.
    11. I choose to be “hopelessly” optimistic about another; because I know the power of another “believing” in me.
    12. This is why I choose to live by such seemingly naive notions; because I have chosen to believe that love never fails.

  13. avatar korrill says:
    October 13th, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    The MUI spent 3 months studying the group before finally deciding that it was heretical, and had already informed the police of its decision, in the hope that Ahmad Moshaddeq would be prosecuted for blasphemy against Islam.

    The return of the Dark Ages!

    @ John Orford:

    Aren’t christianity and judaism heretical forms of islam too?

    Depends on how you see it. After all, judaism and christianity emerged AHEAD of islam. Kinda makes you wonder, which is the heretical form of which religion now?

    @ Joy: Ever considered the Rotary’s 4-way test of the things we think, say or do?

    1. Is it the truth?

    2. Is it fair to all concerned?

    3. Will it be beneficial to all?

    4. Will it build goodwill and friendship among people?

  14. avatar Pakmantri says:
    October 14th, 2007 at 4:03 am

    What is the religion of the new messenger? Elementary, my dear it is a new religion!
    From the way he quoted from both Christian and Islam and his believe of a new messenger it must be a mix of Mormon and Achmadiyah, therefore, I’ll call the new religion “MorMadiyah”. :-)

    Maybe I should join him, seen I am tired of these never ending Islam and Christian bickering in every corners and turns. If we have both in one religion maybe we would not fight who is better anymore. What do you think?

    Love and Peace on earth.

  15. avatar Janma says:
    October 14th, 2007 at 10:02 am

    Maybe I should join him, seen I am tired of these never ending Islam and Christian bickering in every corners and turns. If we have both in one religion maybe we would not fight who is better anymore. What do you think?

    brilliant! Well Done! Case Closed….

  16. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:
    October 15th, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    new messenger said

    ASHADU ALA ILLA HAILLALLOH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD ROSULULLOH.
    Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near

    This style seems familiar.
    Could it be”¦?
    Aluang, where are you!?

  17. avatar taxpayerua Bin Nun says:
    October 17th, 2007 at 12:32 am

    salom………

    ASHADU ALA ILLA HAILLALLOH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD ROSULULLOH.

    And he saith unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you fishers of men.
    The same came for witness, that he might bear witness of the light, that all might believe through him.
    He was not the light, but `came’ that he might bear witness of the light.
    There was the true light, `even the light’ which lighteth every man, coming into the world.
    He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world knew him not.
    He came unto his own, and they that were his own received him not.
    But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, `even’ to them that believe on his name:

    …………..And I have seen, and have borne witness that this is the Son of God……………

    And know that among you is Allah’s Messenger: were he, in many matters, to follow your wishes, you would certainly fall into misfortune: but Allah has endeared the faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and he has made hateful to you unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion: such indeed are those who walk in righteousness,

    It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom, – although they had been, before, in manifest error; –

    As well as (to confer all these benefits upon) others of them, who have not already joined them: and He is Exalted in Might,

    Such is the Bounty of Allah, which He bestows on whom He will: and Allah is the Lord of the highest bounty.

    join us………………………………………..

  18. avatar Janma says:
    October 17th, 2007 at 8:01 am

    Joshua is the son of a nun? wow… I didn’t think they could……. well, you know.. ;)

  19. avatar ANGEL says:
    October 17th, 2007 at 11:59 am

    ASHADU ALA ILLAHA ILLALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD RASULULLAH

    MUI has been ”out of the line”, only ALLAH can decide whether any sect being categorized as ”misleading”.
    Why Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah categorized as ”Misleading”?
    Because different from other sects? Open up your mind, ”There are 73 sects, and there’s only one which is RIGHT,
    Right or wrong, true and false always been 2 sides, and both are extremely different. If all sects of Islam are similar, then which is true?

  20. avatar Hassan says:
    October 17th, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Where do I sign up? Err, wait…

    join us”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦”¦..

    Join you to where exactly?

  21. avatar HeavenlySword says:
    October 18th, 2007 at 7:14 am

    Can I scream “This is blasphemy! This is madness” Can.. I Can I?

  22. avatar Hassan says:
    October 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Fire away, HeavenlySword, hehe! But I think the MUI had it covered though… :D

  23. avatar ANGEL says:
    October 19th, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    ASHADU ALLA ILAHA ILLALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD RASULULLAH

    Come on WAKE UP! The truth has come, but why you deny it? No wonder as it is clearly stated in Holy Koran that Most of people hate the truth.

    43 (Az Zukhruff) : 78 Verily We have brought the Truth to you: but most of you have a hatred for Truth.

    If only all of you open up your mind, ears, and eyes to understand the verses of ALLAH, you will find the truth.

    Most of people think that they are on the right path, but it is what ALLAH says?

    6 (Al An’aam) :116 Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture: they do nothing but lie.

    And it is obvious in Ar Ruum : 30, that most of men do not know about the truth.

    So set thy purpose for religion as a man by nature upright – the nature (framed) of Allah, in which He hath created man. There is no altering (the laws of) Allah’s creation. That is the right religion, but most men know not

    All Praise is due to ALLAH

  24. avatar Hassan says:
    October 20th, 2007 at 10:18 am

    ANGEL:

    Come on WAKE UP! The truth has come, but why you deny it? No wonder as it is clearly stated in Holy Koran that Most of people hate the truth.

    Personally, I don’t hate the truth. I just don’t believe in your version of the truth. Should we believe in every heretic sect that came along just because they said they’re bringing the truth?

    43 (Az Zukhruff) : 78 Verily We have brought the Truth to you: but most of you have a hatred for Truth.

    We must consider to whom the verse was addressed as well, the verse was clearly addressed to pagan Arabs in Mekkah during Muhammad’s (pbuh) time, not towards Indonesians or Muslims who refuse to believe that there’s another Indonesian-born prophet after Muhammad (pbuh) that your faith teaches you.

    Why Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah categorized as “Misleading”?
    Right or wrong, true and false always been 2 sides, and both are extremely different. If all sects of Islam are similar, then which is true?

    I doubt a sect that believes that there are another prophet after Muhammad (pbuh) is similar to the one that believes that Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet.

    That alteration in your Shahadah is enough reason for MUI to determine that your sect is “misleading”, I think. Why? Because that teaching is against the Qur’an that states that Muhammad (pbuh) was the last of the prophets.

    Qu’ran 33:40 “Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.”

    Most of people think that they are on the right path, but it is what ALLAH says?

    I will answer your claims by using the verse that followed the verse which you quoted (6:116).

    Qur’an 6:117 “Thy Lord knoweth best who strayeth from His way: He knoweth best who they are that receive His guidance.”

  25. avatar Angel says:
    October 20th, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    This period is the day of darkness (dzulumat), no wonder if most of people cannot distinguish right and wrong. We only want to deliver the verses of ALLAH–the truth, if you do not want to accept, no problem as there’s no compulsion in Islam.

    So, you think Quran only for Arabs? If you think Quran only for the period of Muhammad (pbuh) then Quran has no function right now, many of the verses of ALLAH in Quran not becoming the truth. If so how about 2 : 185:

    The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur’an, a guidance for mankind, and clear proofs of the guidance, and the Criterion (of right and wrong). And whosoever of you is present, let him fast the month, and whosoever of you is sick or on a journey, (let him fast the same) number of other days. Allah desireth for you ease; He desireth not hardship for you; and (He desireth) that ye should complete the period, and that ye should magnify Allah for having guided you, and that peradventure ye may be thankful.

    Quran is the guidance for mankind, and there should be clear proofs of the guidance right? If you think the content of Quran are only the stories of the past, etc–Then you are one of the proofs of the verse of ALLAH (Al Qalam : 15) >> That, when Our revelations are recited unto him, he saith: Mere fables of the men of old.

    As you quoted before 33:40 > > Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things.
    Firstly you should understand the difference between Rasul (Messenger) and prophet.
    In Arabic it says Rasulullah Wa Khatamannabiyyin. let’s say Khatamannabiyyin is the seal of the prophet, but here not say ”The last Rasul–Messenger”. If it says Khatamannabiyyin Wa Rasulan or Khatamarrasulan Wa Nabiyyin, then it means the seal of prophet and rasul.
    We clearly said : ASHADU ALLA ILAHA ILALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD RASULULLAH.

    Yes, for that MUI HAS NO RIGHT to claim AL QIYADAH AL ISLAMIYAH as ”misleading”. Because ALLAH KNOWS BEST which sect is right and which sect is misleading…

    SHODAQALLAH WA RASULLUH,

  26. avatar new messenger says:
    October 22nd, 2007 at 1:02 am

    al hujurat:6
    O ye who believe! if a wicked person ( the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI))comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done.

    al hujurat:7
    And know that among you is Allah’s Messenger: were he, in many matters, to follow your , ye would certainly fall into misfortune: but Allah has endeared the Faith to you, and has made it beautiful in your hearts, and He has made hateful to you unbelief, wickedness, and rebellion: such indeed are those who walk in righteousness;

  27. avatar ANGEL says:
    October 22nd, 2007 at 10:13 am

    ASHADU ALLA ILAHA ILALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD RASULULLAH

    Shodaqallah Wa Rasulluh

  28. avatar taxpayerua Bin Nun says:
    October 26th, 2007 at 12:42 am

    I COME SAVE THE WORLD
    JANMA R U READY JOIN ME 2 GET HEAVEN IN THE WORD..?
    N 4 YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,IF U WAN JOIN US PLIZ SAY

    “ASHADU ALLA ILAHA ILALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD RASULULLAH”

  29. avatar Janma says:
    October 26th, 2007 at 1:43 am

    sorry, not the joining type….

  30. avatar ANGEL says:
    October 26th, 2007 at 9:44 am

    No Problem, as there’s no compulsion in Dien Al Islam.

    For Bung Joshua Bin Nun, KEEP FIGHTING.

    ”ASHADU ALLA ILAHA ILALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA AL MASIH AL MAW’UD RASULULLAH”

    SAYA BERSAKSI TIADA ILAH YANG HAQ SELAIN ALLAH DAN SAYA BERSAKSI BAHWA MASIH MAW’UD ADALAH UTUSAN ALLAH…ALLAHU AKBAR!

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