Majelis Ulama

Nov 8th, 2007, in News, by

The MUI rides the anti-heretic wave to more money and influence.

Continued from the stories Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah and Muslim Beliefs.

Banning

The Attorney General formally declared the sect Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah to be heretical and illegal throughout Indonesia on 7th November, after a meeting with representatives of the Clerics' Council (MUI), the Department of Religion, Military Intelligence, the police, and the State Intelligence Agency (BIN), and based on MUI conclusions that the group's teachings were not in accordance with the Qur'an and Sunnah. tempo

The head of BIN, Syamsir Siregar, said on the 2nd there were about 8,000 followers of Al Qiyadah in Indonesia and State Intelligence would help in the job of encouraging them to repent. antara

Ikhwan Syam

On 3rd November Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) General Secretary, Ikhwan/Ichwan Syam/Sam, said that it appeared that intelligence services, either foreign or Indonesian, had constructed a "factory" to create and spread heretical forms of Islam, like Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah, in order to destroy Indonesia, and done in cooperation with former members of the Islamic State Movement, Negara Islam Indonesia (NII). suaramerdeka

To combat the problem of heresy Ikhwan Syam said the MUI needed a lot more money, and he hoped the Department of Religion would not be stingy in handing out more cash. suaramerdeka

The previous day Ikhwan said the MUI in recent years had issued fatwas against nine heretical sects in the country, including Islam Jamaah (LDII), Ahmadiyah, Ikrar Sunah, Qur'an Suci, Sholat Dua Bahasa (Yusman Roy), and Lia Eden. tempo

Human Rights

Some people have complained about the state's willingness to enforce religious orthodoxy, although not many and weakly.

Chairman of the Human Rights Commission (Komnas HAM), Ifdal Kasim had apparently voiced objections to the persecution of Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah members but quickly backtracked, saying the government did have a role in seeing that religious rituals and obligations were performed in accordance with each religion's dogmas or rules.

The purpose was to keep good public order and morality, and ensure that the religious freedom and fundamental rights of others were not violated by deviants. However he said the government itself should not decide which groups were heretical and which were not. detik

Hasyim Muzadi of Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) said on 3rd November that claiming to be a prophet was not a human right and such people should be punished. gatra

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono on 5th November voiced his support for firm action against Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah. The Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) had spoken, he said:

There are thirteen points made by the MUI. The first one is to take very firm and appropriate action against false understandings and beliefs. I support them, let's get on with it together.

SBY also said he supported the MUI's forbidding of the following things: alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, corruption, violence against women and children, copyright violations, and all sort of crime generally. antara

Repenting

Seven former Al Qiyadah Al Islamiah followers in Makassar, South Sulawesi were publicly "re-Islamized" on 2nd November. The city's Chief of Police observed the proceedings, wherein the seven men were required to say the Muslim confession of faith, and to sign statements renouncing Al Qiyadah Al Islamiah and promising never to re-join it. The men were closely guarded by police during the ceremony. One of the men cried out afterwards: antara

God be thanked, God be thanked, I'm so thankful that I have returned to the right path.


15 Comments on “Majelis Ulama”

  1. avatar Sylvester says:

    To combat the problem of heresy Ikhwan Syam said the MUI needed a lot more money, and he hoped the Department of Religion would not be stingy in handing out more cash. [4]

    More money to be corrupted as well.

  2. avatar Janma says:

    Hasyim Muzadi of Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) said on 3rd November that claiming to be a prophet was not a human right and such people should be punished.

    And what, he thinks he’s the man to do it? They’re the men to do it? What happened to God punishing the sinners?
    And why isn’t Basyir on their ‘sesat’ list?

  3. avatar falcon says:

    The burning of worship places, are they not also on “SESAT” list.

  4. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:

    Patung said it all in the heading:

    The MUI rides the anti-heretic wave to more money and influence.

    This is not about religious conviction or trying to guide the people it is purely and simply about Riches and Money.

    The more things change the more they stay the same.

    Peace

  5. avatar dusty says:

    You guys know nothing….

  6. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:

    Sorry, that should have read Riches and Power!

  7. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:

    Dusty said:

    You guys know nothing”¦.

    So….., if you are any more knowledgable, please……. enlighten us!

    Peace

  8. avatar iamisaid says:

    SBY said : “SBY also said he supported the MUI’s forbidding of the following things: alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, corruption, violence against women and children, copyright violations, and all sort of crime generally.”

    iamisaid says : DANG ! that’s a mouthful.

  9. avatar Peter says:

    Seven former Al Qiyadah Al Islamiah followers in Makassar, South Sulawesi were publicly “re-Islamized” on 2nd November.

    Wow sounds a lot like Communist “re-education”, ya?

    When will Indonesia get its head out of its arse? What needs to happen???

  10. avatar Pakmantri says:

    SBY also said he supported the MUI’s forbidding of the following things: alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, corruption, violence against women and children, copyright violations, and all sort of crime generally.

    Forbid mysticism!” Says he who regularly visits Imogiri and gua Semar in Dieng and have several orang pintar in his back ….. 😀

    And what MUI got to do with medicine & health?

    And the rest aren’t they the jobs for Department of Justice and the Police?

    Maybe we should disband the Police, Department of Justice and Department of Public Health and let MUI do their Job. Less bureaucrats, less corruptions. 🙂

    Yeah right …………….!!

  11. avatar Teng says:

    I predict a fatwa from the MUI which will declare that anything that’s enjoyable will be considered haram too.

    MUI shouldn’t forbid a damn thing! There are laws and everybody should abide by them.. and some obscure wannabe arabs should really not have any influence at all.

    They can issue fatwa’s whatever they want… but its REALLY tragic that SBY is actually “supporting” them… SBY is a disappointment in a long row of disappointments 🙁

  12. avatar Ross says:

    It is heartening to note that some Al Qidayeh people are refusing to knuckle under, so far, to the bigots – in the regime as well as the MUI zealots’ council – but these brave souls will probably share the fate of the Ahmaddiyah group in Lombok who are still in makeshift accommodation more than a year after primitive thugs drove them from their homes. Despite plenty of media being present on that occasion, with lots of footage of the louts’ ugly fizzogs, police action has been prominent by its almost total absence and instead of living up to the Pancasila philosophy of pluralism which allegedly inspires this country’s constitution, the authorities have permitted the hoodlum elements to have their way.
    Incidentally, let’s not ignore Jakarta’s new Governor, Fauzi Bowo, who has betrayed his pre-election declarations of fair play and pluralism by siding with the forces of darkness. It was the Jakarta Provincial Prosecutor’s Office that ‘ pioneered the use of the MUI’s edict to ban the sect’s existence in the capital.’ ( JP 8/11/07)

  13. avatar Rambutan says:

    State Intelligence would help in the job of encouraging them to repent.

    I guess they were also trying to help Munir becoming a good Indonesian citizen and patriot???

    Teng said:

    I predict a fatwa from the MUI which will declare that anything that’s enjoyable will be considered haram too.

    Well, MUI did not ban smoking. They reasoned that the huge cigarette industry in Indonesia feeds tens of thousands of people and a ban would severely impact the wefare of the people. Using this line of argument MUI should also not ban alcohol, alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, copyright, and – most importantly – corruption.

  14. avatar ArReef says:

    Sir, i want to ask, do you know i-doser? Is that haram? If not i will tell it here…For shortly, I-doser is a digital drugs. Yes, digital drugs, but..The reason i ask why it haram because it is not drinked or inject like other, but hear. Yeah, hear. By using headphones, this ‘sound drugs’ can make the user feel happy. So, it is? Thanks.

  15. avatar Realist says:

    Send these idiots to Saudi and let them serve their Arab masters the next time Indonesia decides to ban maids from going there! Hahaha!

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