Alfarini Eridani
Dec 4th, 2006, in Celebrities, by PatungAa Gym‘s new wife, Alvarini, or Alfarini Eridani.
This be she:
Joke.
Apparently this is her. Pretty lady…….
Alfarini Eridani.
144 Comments on “Alfarini Eridani”
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co-master of heaven and earth says:
For You who believe in one God, Allah the Al-Mighty and the day After…
Take a look at QS Al Hujurat (49:12) :
“O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin: And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it…But fear Allah: For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.”Stop yout suspicion and rumors right now or you will eat the dead flesh of your brother. dont give a damn to the people who have a negative judgment to Islam because they will be thrown away to the hell.
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Agnes says:
I LOVE ISLAM!!!!!
To : Mohammed Khafi…
good job man…To : Ismail
do your own business…jgn kaya tukang obat donk man!!!! -
Abd. Kareem says:
What a ridiculous statement, my brother Mohammed Khafi. You have relied on your own research including for these ‘filsafat’ things? And you believe it has strengthen your kind of ‘twisted’ beliefs (sorry for using your own favorite stuff herein)? Oh … no, my friend! You have been faraway from the religious gentleman you should have been.
Well, seems you are not differ with Mr UAA. Come on, my dear brother! We both are not young any longer. Don’t waste the rest of your life being like this mu’tazily minds.
For some points of the discussion in this site I’ve gone thru, you maybe right, my genius brother, my thumbs up for you. But, my dear brother … saying Sunnah and Hadits have been twisted as your preferred term ‘human fabricant’ really really very funny! How do you details all of the commands and restrictions outlined in Qur’an anyway?
… and I’m then not so sure you’re still practicing 5 times praying obligation.
Or, you have considered all of your referenced literatures on your desk now (I believe they’re in English or in any foreign language but by Western authors), were scientifically better? How do you so sure for that conclusion? My question now … how those books take the authenticity issue as high as a ‘Shaheeh Hadith’?
As I said, you should take a look at the cases of the high educated people in the non-Moslem countries who have been enlightened by the truth of Islam. A lot of them are of higher degree education like us. They’re even able filtering the wrong practice/misconception have been consistently done in the Moslem world. However, it doesn’t eliminate their beliefs!
They’re not like you which was born in Islam but in contrary very proud attacking Islam itself. I’m not going to talk further regarding your targets, but in simply you’re kind of those who fond of submitting negative stigma attached to your religion. You almost all of the time available in front of your computer and maybe quite rich also … because of that Fund, isn’t it?
Just be ‘insyaf’, my brother.
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Anonymous says:
Dear Abd. Kareem,
As I said, you should take a look at the cases of the high educated people in the non-Moslem countries who have been enlightened by the truth of Islam. A lot of them are of higher degree education like us. They’re even able filtering the wrong practice/misconception have been consistently done in the Moslem world. However, it doesn’t eliminate their beliefs!
Could you please give us some references to the experts that you mentioned. I’d love to have a look at their works in my spare time.
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Mohammed Khafi says:
Adb. Kareem said:
They’re not like you which was born in Islam but in contrary very proud attacking Islam itself.
I am not attacking Islam I am trying to promote a return to the true Islam a return to Al Quran which is the word of Allah, as compared to Sunnah and Hadith which is the word of men. My friend what you practice is not Islam! Islam means “Submission to Allah” what you are following is not Allahs word. How many times do you need it repeated to you that Allah’s word is complete and fully detailed?
The Quran is not in need of an annex since it is complete:
“The word of your Lord is complete in truth and justice” 6:115The Quran is not in need of an explanatory supplement since it is clear and is not ambiguous:
“A.L.R. These are the signs of the clear book” 12:1“We have made it (the Quran) easy to understand and in your own tongue (language) may you take heed.” 44:58
The Quran is not in need of a correction manual since it is perfect and harbours no contradictions:
“A.L.R. This is a book whose verses have been perfected” 11:1The Quran is not in need of a step by step guide since it is fully detailed:
“Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114If Allah had wanted our lives to be fully regulated by a set of Rules such as Sunnah and Hadith he would have given them to us as he did Al Quran:
“Say: “If the ocean were ink to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid.”” 18:109If the words of Allah are not enough for you, that is your choice, but do not try and dictate to others what they should believe, just remember the following:
“And when Allah alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are repelled, and when those (whom they worship) beside Him are mentioned, behold! they are glad. ” 39:45Is Allah enough for you my friend?
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Bradlymail says:
bravo ! Bro.Mohammed Khafi excellence explanation !!!
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Ismail says:
Agnes, its ok to love and die for Islam, so many still love idi-amin of uganda even in his death. your love for Islam and mohammed is no different, all i advice take a close look before staking your life on it.
Islam is what Islam does and it can’t be reformed.——-
Mohammed Khafi, i have a thing against your theology, i know its Islamic but you are a thinking man, so i will lay this on you,
you said“As is Islamic polygamy, which was clearly from Al Quran only allowed during the time of the Prophet to protect widows and orphans in time of war, and then only if the males involved felt unable to deal fairly with the orphans.”
first question is this, khafi is the God in the Quran against polygamy?
if he his, can he simply break his word, are there circumstances your god did not envisage before pronouncing this instructions.
finally i believe there are indeed other ways to protect widows and ophans, and the community takes care and protect them, i fail to see how breaking your gods word promote womens right to her husband, the sanctity of marriage and the bond the God of the bible expect from such union.
it seem to me from your explanations that there are laws that can broken just because of circumstance. and inspite of you explanation must of the Islamic world including myself belief that polygamy is acceptable including having sex with your slaves.Again from your explantion, all we need is for the 7th century war to happen again and polygamy is fully acceptable ok. how sad. your effort in my opinion is still morally short. And it offends (again my opinion) the rightiouness the God of the bible demands. NO POLYGAMY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, polygamy is adultery and therefore sin.
on offence intended.
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AA Chooo says:
Questions to all?….Why so many negative comments or maybe the commentators just don’t have nor possessed any positive characters?…..Why too many Christians commenting on Islam? Are they trying to know better about Islam or merely wanna make ‘mess’ out of Islam?..Who’ll be gaining from all this negatives comments?….I hope with those negatives comments & thoughts, Indonesia will be much better place to live….particularly for Indonesians.
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That’s enough!
If you all want to share knowledge, ideas, thoughts or whatever, please do it calmly with cool mind. It is not necessary to debate on the basis of religion. There will be no end. “Lakum diinukum waliyadiin”.
It hurts me so much to see your arguments hating a religion. There is no need to hate something while we have still no sufficient knowledge about it. Moreover, we still can live and get along together regarless religious differences. Do not make AA Gym’s second marry as a means and chance to hate and attack others. In addition, please do not use different names to post various negative comments while actually you are the same exact person or impersonate other specific profile. It’s OK to have different opinions, but provide it in a good manner and as scientific as possible. Or, just have a fun and post funny comments only. It will foster good collaboration and cooperation to develop our country.
My suggestion, for Muslim brothers, if you have contrary opinions, please refer to Al-Quran and As-sunnah. They are two main sources as our guidance in worshipping. Al-Quran does contain ‘main hightlights’ which are then needed to be detailed by As-sunnah. If you are a true Muslim you are not supposed to reject or decline As-sunnah or Hadist Nabi. The way we conduct shalat derives from Hadist Nabi. Hadist plays a role as details explanator. Moreover, the hadist comprises different quality types depending on such as who (personal quality) the messengers in the link are, trusted or unreliable, and many other criteria to be accounted. So, not all existing hadistes are reliable. We need Arabic knowledge and other supporting skills to be able to comprehend Hadist as well as Al-Quran. You cannot retrieve meaning or messages barely by looking on the literal meanings. Sometimes it does need deep interpretation. And, in this case ‘Tafsir’ skills play a very important role here.
Let’s make a peace not war! Islam as far as I know is not like what you see nowadays on televisons. On the other side, western community and its life style is also not always absolutely as seen on media. We should separate between reality and movies as well as the governments’ opinion and their peoples’ opinions eventhough in some cases they can be influenced by media propaganda. Based on my experience, In some cases, even our country and its communities, with its east culture is worse than western daily life facts. We cannot meet any porn VCDs freely sold like in Glodok for example. Everything has its own place and position in ‘the West’.
For all people in Indonesia. We should be always ready to live peacefully with other people who have many differences than ours. We should be accustomed to with other aspects beyond our community. Otherwise, we will always in wars, in genocides for nothing. Life is short……………peace and love create great things in the world. So, be a part of it. Thanks you for reading.
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Ismail said:
Mohammed Khafi, i have a thing against your theology
I also have a “thing” against you theology Ismail, but it is your God given right to choose your own path. Just stop trying to spread the loving words of Nabi Isa with your obvious hatred of Islam.
Regarding your questions Ismail I will attempt to explain from my point of view:
first question is this, khafi is the God in the Quran against polygamy?
Quite obviously, as he states that no matter how a man tries he cannot be equally fair to multiple wives:
“You are never able to be fair and just between women even if it is your ardent desire”¦”4:129
As fairness and justice is one of the prerequsites of multiple marriage this clearly means that Allah is saying that Polygamy was not a generally accepted practice:
“If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then (marry) only one“¦” 4:3
if he his, can he simply break his word, are there circumstances your god did not envisage before pronouncing this instructions.
He is not breaking his word, he is giving permission for polygamy, whilst at the same time according that practice certain difficult conditions and thus making it impossible for ordinary men to meet.
finally i believe there are indeed other ways to protect widows and ophans, and the community takes care and protect them
I agree with you totally Ismail, but at the time of the Prophet, especially after the battle of Uhud, the community was very likely in disarray was was not able to deal with the problem as we can now, our conditions are completely different from those prevailing at the time. If you re read the quote from me which you posted I was very specific to say “allowed during the time of the Prophet”
and inspite of you explanation must of the Islamic world including myself belief that polygamy is acceptable
That is exactly the reason that I spend my time and make an effort to try and bring people back to Al Quran, I can only assume that when you were a Muslim that you were also a follower of Sunnah and Hadith. I have tried to explain to you that Sunnah and Hadith are a corruption, you saw as I have done that they contained a lot which was violent, corrupt and evil. To combat that I have returned to Allah’s word in Al Quran whilst you have turned to Jesus, That is your choice.
Having become a Christian you have given up any chance of helping to guide Muslims to the straight path, you can do them no good at all. At least I can still try by showing them that there is an alternative based on Al Quran, of a peaceful, tolerant, forward thinking, caring version of Islam.
Michael Smith said:
My suggestion, for Muslim brothers, if you have contrary opinions, please refer to Al-Quran and As-sunnah. They are two main sources as our guidance in worshipping.
Allah says:
“These are the communications of Allah which We recite to you with truth; then in what announcement would they believe after Allah and His communications?” 45:6
Michael Smith said:
Al-Quran does contain ‘main hightlights’ which are then needed to be detailed by As-sunnah.
Allah says:
The Quran is not in need of an annex since it is complete:
“The word of your Lord is complete in truth and justice” 6:115The Quran is not in need of an explanatory supplement since it is clear and is not ambiguous:
“A.L.R. These are the signs of the clear book” 12:1“We have made it (the Quran) easy to understand and in your own tongue (language) may you take heed.” 44:58
The Quran is not in need of a correction manual since it is perfect and harbours no contradictions:
“A.L.R. This is a book whose verses have been perfected” 11:1The Quran is not in need of a step by step guide since it is fully detailed:
“Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114Michael Smith said:
We need Arabic knowledge and other supporting skills to be able to comprehend Hadist as well as Al-Quran. You cannot retrieve meaning or messages barely by looking on the literal meanings. Sometimes it does need deep interpretation. And, in this case ‘Tafsir’ skills play a very important role here.
Allah says:
“And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?”54:17
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Tomaculum says:
M. Khafi:
I see similarities beetwen zealots interpreting their religion to legitimate their misdeeds and for their benefits and opposers interpreting the same way like those zealots do, to …??? Yeah, what is their aim(s)? -
Hi Tomaculum,
I wonder which camp you have me in Tomaculum?
Religion is a very important part of our lives, it figures in our cultural and social behaviour on a daily basis. I cannot say what is the aim of any of the other posters on here apart from myself, who truely knows what is in anothers heart?
For me Islam is about tolerance, equality, justice, human rights, democracy, social care, education, and love, I know it is not the Islam that the mainstream follow, but I am just trying to let them know that another path, guided by Al Quran is possible, one which could lead to harmony in our country, and elsewhere abroad where there are religious and cultural conflicts.
I just don’t like those who use religion as a mask and hide their evil behind it!
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Hi Mohammed Khafi,
I am wondering :
– the way you are conducting shalat
– the way you fast in Ramadhan month
– the way you take ablution
– the way you take the ‘Mandi Wajib” (Janabah Bath)
and a lot of other fiqh rules and details in performing Islamic Rukuns.
You are a great Islamolog. Contact me privately by andymuxi@yahoo.com
I want to see your vision and missions.I also want to know your Quran which you recite and you quot. Is it a translation version in Indonesian or in English and by who?
In my opinion, don’t use Al-Quran verses to defend your arguments. It’s useless. We are not all Muslims who write opinion here. It is better to provide logical explanations (phylosofical thoughts) when you face other religion followers.
What I can catch from the above explanations; you all relatively are Salman Rushdie’s followers, Good Luck!
For all of you. Do not mention any God plus His religion then you give any such negative comments towards Him/it. Respect others’ beliefs. Do not blame any religion. Do not expose your hatred. Stay on the course; on Polygamy Issues. Plz…provides ideas with a happy sense of humour. I like to read comments as we can see on YZ case. It’s very funny and very entertained.
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Rockstar says:
@Kareem,
Yes, our background, religion, culture may be different, but the common sense should be the same.
and religion doesnt has anything to do with it.But yea, let me ask you this Kareem and please do answer.
If your wife wants to marry another guy, what will be your reaction. The same reason as AA uses for his case.
Thanks
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Althaf Jibril says:
Hey people…stop being a tyrant. If a man and woman fall in love, let them get married. Respect their rights. Let them choose, and you people should not choose for them. You people enjoy making fun of good people just because you can not do as good.
Hey women…. one day some of you will fall in love with married gentleman. If you want to be the second, it is good; if you make secret love affair, that’s bad, illegal and being exploited.
Hey married men…., some day you will fall in love with another single woman. If you do a polygamy and do your effort to be just, that’s good; but if you do secret love affair just to show people your fake loyalty to your wife, that’s bad, illegal, hypocrisy. But make sure that you should be financially and mentally capable of dealing with your wives’ needs and passionate, and be wise.
Hey single man (including me)…..you should get married first, don’t let your sexual desire unreleased. Dont do free sex. Polygamy is much better than being long-life single.
What about POLYANDRY?
If you women want to marry more than one man, do it, I respect your rights of freedom. But dont blame anybody if you will suffer due to that. Any two or more men wanna share a girl in a marriage? I doubt it.AA Gym and Alfarini Eridani, I am happy for you. To Teteh, I put my thumbs up for you. You are a great woman! Dont let the comments of the people with jahiliyah minds provoke you. It is a hard time for you, but things will pay off. You three will make a good team. May Allah Bless you.
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Dimp says:
hey “Ihaknt”,
this is not a dating forum, please conduct your matter somewhere else please.
and to those who condemn aa gym, just a question, are you condemning aa gym because he is a polygamyst? if so why don’t you say something about all the polygamysts in this country, how about bung karno, how about puspo wardoyo?
and to those who said that polygamy is a way out for adultery, no it is not, it is just another form of adultery, difference is you are just being honest and you take one step further by marrying the person, because you think that it is condoned by the holy book doesn’t mean that you are doing the “right” thing.
in principal don’t be a hypocrite, you are judging someone else as if you have no sins. aa gym is just another human being, he has flaws, just like the rest of you.
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Hey people”¦stop being a tyrant. If a man and woman fall in love, let them get married. Respect their rights
How can we respect him, if he can’t respect his first wife, you’re not making any sense here.
Hey women”¦. one day some of you will fall in love with married gentleman. If you want to be the second, it is good
How come you say it’s good? tell me what is the good part of stealing somebody else’s husband? She will hurt someone, that’s the point. Again, you’re not making any sense. Tell me what is good about it.
Hey married men”¦., some day you will fall in love with another single woman
Your statement is very degrading. My dad is faithful to my mom and so was my grandftaher to my grandmother. Shame on you! my family isn’t the same as AA. Hes not even close to the quality that my dad has, not even close.
Hey single man (including me)”¦..you should get married first, don’t let your sexual desire unreleased. Dont do free sex. Polygamy is much better than being long-life single.
Nothing can be called better in that situation. Life is not all about submitting yourself to your lust. There are times where you have no choice but to win it. Where is your mentality as a man?
If you women want to marry more than one man, do it, I respect your rights of freedom. But dont blame anybody if you will suffer due to that. Any two or more men wanna share a girl in a marriage? I doubt it.
so you’re saying if women faced the same situation they would accept this wholeheartedly? There IS NO single woman who’d like to be treated the way AA treats his first wife.
To Teteh, I put my thumbs up for you. You are a great woman!
So she is a great woman because she can’t do anything about it but to accept it.. hmm that doesn’t seem right to me man.
It is a hard time for you, but things will pay off.
If you happen to read my reply, please do elaborate like what things that will pay off.
Dimp:
in principal don’t be a hypocrite, you are judging someone else as if you have no sins. aa gym is just another human being, he has flaws, just like the rest of you.
He has flaws, very humongous ones for a person like him. 🙂
Dimp, you need to know the context, we are talking abut AA gym here and what he’s done to his first wife. If you said a hypocrite -in this context- should be a person who did the same thing as AA did, condemned but would not admit it. Now that’s hypocrisy.
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For those who had comments deleted – sorry, but comments should be in English, at least primarily.
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However this debate will never end. because their heart has already locked. it’s same for them, You give some advice or not they will not understand.
To ISMAIL :
I worship not what YOU worship
And YOU are not worshippers of what I worship
And I AM not worshipper of what YOU worship
And YOU are not worshippers of what I worship
YOURS is your Religion and MINE is my Religion.CASE CLOSED…
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Faiz says:
Agnes Says:
December 8th, 2006 at 8:56 am
However this debate will never end. because their heart has already locked. it’s same for them, You give some advice or not they will not understand.
To ISMAIL :
I worship not what YOU worship
And YOU are not worshippers of what I worship
And I AM not worshipper of what YOU worship
And YOU are not worshippers of what I worship
YOURS is your Religion and MINE is my Religion.CASE CLOSED”¦
I’m ending my post regarding this case here,
its enough said,to my knowledge, KH Faridl Miftach has already give advise to him what might happen if he still intended to marry Mrs. Rini,
then AA Gym has choose his destiny, and no one could ever change that
I think ‘maybe’ his heart is already ‘locked’well, let him do his way..
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gegerkalong says:
Dear all,
what a discussion here!
I love my wife.
He is the one I love forever till I die.I dont agree in divorce.
I dont agree in poligamy.Whatever the reason is…
Must be a way to prevent divorce or poligamy..Poligamy is just for the man who can not control his lust….
What a weak man!
How can he control others if he can not control himself?Aa, sorry.
Many people will not hear your ‘dakwah’ anymore…..in Daarut Tauhid.
You are finished.Peace.
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gatot says:
hi all,,
ya udah toh.. so what gitu lho,,
why should we bother if he takes second wife..his decision is legal and cursing him is ‘as you all know’ DOSA. stop it…
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Michael Smith,
You will find all the answers to you questions in my other postings on this website, you are not the first to question me in these matters.
You said:
In my opinion, don’t use Al-Quran verses to defend your arguments. It’s useless.
Why in that case did Allah say in Al Quran, “Who shall you take as a source of law other than Allah, When it was He that gave us you this book complete and fully detailed.”
You also said:
We are not all Muslims who write opinion here. It is better to provide logical explanations (phylosofical thoughts) when you face other religion followers.
You would find if you had bothered to search this website that I do just that, I use Al Quran only for the enlightenment of those who profess to be Muslim but are in fact just followers of Sunnah and Hadith.
You also said:
What I can catch from the above explanations; you all relatively are Salman Rushdie’s followers, Good Luck!
It would seem to me that you are a follower of Abu Dawood, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Al-Nasa’i, Al-Tabarani, Al-Tirmidhi, Ibn Maja, Ibn Shihab al-Zuhri, Malik ibn Anas, Muhammad al-Bukhari, Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj, and Yahiya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi.
I am a follower of Allah and Al Quran, Allah is sufficient for me. Can you say the same thing?
My friend it seems to me that you are the one who needs the good luck, despite having Allah’s clear words in front of you explaining that all you need is Al Quran, you still want to practice your religion based on Sunnah and Hadith.
“And We have placed coverings on their hearts and a heaviness in their ears lest they understand it, and when you mention your Lord alone in the Quran they turn their backs in aversion.” 17:46
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CA94 says:
Any woman who accept polygamy as a part of her life must have something wrong. She may have one or more the following:
1) Brainwashed, thinks that to get pahala is to obey the husband in anyway including hurting her feeling in the rest of her life.
2) Feeling inferior, thinks that a man belongs to a higher class. A man is a leader that has rights to do whatever including marrying more than 1 women (she will refer to qur\’an and what prophet Muhammad saw did, doesn\’t matter the situation and motivation are totally different)
3) Low self esteem, doesn\’t believe she can be independent (emotionally and financially– has no (adequate) income). So she depends on her husband no matter what.
4) Doesn’t care about feeling (emotion), as long as her needs (varies) are fulfilled, life is good.
Women…..be strong, be independent and be happy! Don’t let you husband hurt you in anyway!
What do you think guys?
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CA94,
Don’t forget this Hadith which is used as a means of controlling wives:
“If a woman dies while her husband was pleased with her, she will enter Paradise.” This Hadith was narrated by Um Salmah/At Tirmidhi.
The truth is clear, God never said in the Quran that obeying your husband is a criterion to enter paradise. Relations between the wife and the husband comes from the mutual respect and love that God talked about in the Quran.
Come on all you women out there, stand up against this oppression of your rights hidden behind religious nonsense.
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Moh Khadafi bin sabar says:
guys please do not argue. we all brothers and sisters. Various Religions are created by God to let us choose which is suitable for us. God knows that people from the same womb will have a different taste, let alone from different cultures and times. That’s why God creates so many religions for us to choose. All religions are right, depend on how we devote and practice it in a right way to bring us to a perfection. Only human himself who manipulates and deviates a pure teaching to be some funny teaching which accords to them to be logic. We can see in many pure teachings, after the past of time, the pure teachings become many religions. In Islam has many kinds of Islam, In Christian has many kinds of Christian and so forth.
However for polygami, it is definitely not right, sex outside married also not right, Religion always teaches us not to hurt somebody, not to selingkuh, not to zinah etc. By marrying a young girl like what AA gym done, will hurt the wive. It is a sin absolutely and no bargain. Mohamad married many girls, may be with the first wife ‘s permission. No one knows, because the story has happened 450 years ago and not all details will be mentioned in al’Quran. In real life, we know that never a wife will be willing her beloved husband betray her by marrying another wife, as during their dating the husband always talked a sweet thing like ” you are the only girl I love and so on ” but after years of marriage and the wife give births many children of his and become older and uglier, the husband marry another young girl. It will hurt the wife and it is a sin according to any kind of religion.
We cannot follow 100 % of any prophet’ doing, if it is not right. We are living in modern age and we are more aware and educated. Prophet Mohammad is undescribable. WHY ???If we see the movie of Sun Go Kong ” Kera Sakti ” he has a younger brother called Cu Pat Kai. He has a character of ” Mata keranjang” He has many wives and he hates people who like to eat pok because pok is his decendant. Is it similar to anyone ?
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Ozark Tilangmangsa says:
Nobody can guarantee that a man will never done “zina/selingkuh” although he has had 4 wive.
Fair in Al Quran (Anisa-3) is one of the most difficult thing to be defined.
Gym is realy famaous man, bacause by only married two women, he had shcoked “the Indonesias atmosphare”. -
sgn says:
Ozark Tilangmangsa Says:
December 11th, 2006 at 1:14 pm
Nobody can guarantee that a man will never done “zina/selingkuh” although he has had 4 wive.
Fair in Al Quran (Anisa-3) is one of the most difficult thing to be defined.Once I had the Al Qur’an at home, I have read that verse.
Wain khiftum alla tuqsitoo fee alyatama fainkihoo ma taba lakum mina alnnisai mathna wathulatha warubaAAa fain khiftum alla taAAdiloo fawahidatan aw ma malakat aymanukum thalika adna alla taAAooloo.
The first translation (http://www.al-bukhari.org/Chapter4.html#Nisa)
And if you fear that you will not be able to do justice with the orphans then the women you like from among them marry with two two, three three, four four. But if you fear that you will not be able to do justice with them then take only one wife or marry those women who came in your possession, to avoid the injustice this is closer to the fairness.
The second translation (http://www.oneummah.net/Quran/04.htm)
If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
My interpretation (I’m sorry, if this is different from your clerics or your own interpretation) is “four” is not the upper limit. It’s just like counting: two, three, four, five, six, etc. It said marry women of your choice (you like “from among women” and “those women who came in your possession”) and “justice”.
According to Ms. Word the synonyms of “possession” are “control”, “ownership”, “tenure” and “custody”.
I would suggest “your possession” means your slaves, under your control, under your ownership and under your custody.
sgn
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Dede says:
Can you guys not to give such “novel” comment here… got no much time to read all those junks!!
Leave AA and his wives alone…
Dont you guys have nothing to do there?
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Rockstar says:
Your coment is CORRECT and I agree with that
.. you just take me wrong way,
My posting above is about try to imagine what in AA GYM mind that we never imagine before.
I do against it Rockstar, with more or less same reason as you write above,
See my post completely again please..
BenciIslam Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 8:54 am
May God Almighty bless you with His hidayah, my condolences with darkness inside your heart,
God please protect us from that darkness.
Nani Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 1:50 am
Hey, hey.. cool down..
It’s your own life anyway, like a white plain canvas, are you going to colorize it black, red, green, white, or just dump every color in there if if that release your anger… it yours canvas anyway.
We just watch here.. what picture is there at the end.. good amazing painting or just dirty rag full of dumped color of anger?
Only Him who may and could help you,
my condolence with darkness inside your heart,
I didnt dare to imagine how terrible with that..
May God Almighty bless you and also all of us with His hidayah.