Aa Gym‘s new wife, Alvarini, or Alfarini Eridani.
This be she:
Joke.
Apparently this is her. Pretty lady…….
Alfarini Eridani.
Abd. Kareem:
“I knew this is part of your points to negatively stigmatize polygamy (and the next target is the Islam itself, right?).”
“…reducing Islam understanding, insisting gender equality, spreading ridiculous human rights concept, and wrong democracy.”
Let’s put aside this whole polygamy issue.
Dear Mr. Kareem. Your way of thinking simply stunts me. It’s not about Islam or any other specified religions, or race, or gender. It’s about people like YOU, who possess a twisted ideology, who won’t hesitate to force other people to adopt and live by the same ideology, by all means, even violence is necessary.
In the mean time, I can only hope that people like you won’t be given significant political power. I can imagine how people in Indonesia will suffer, if the top positions are full with people with your kind of ideology.
Ismail said:
Christian polygamy is a sad, and twisted theology, that will not find support in the bible
As is Islamic polygamy, which was clearly from Al Quran only allowed during the time of the Prophet to protect widows and orphans in time of war, and then only if the males involved felt unable to deal fairly with the orphans.
Allah clearly states that fairness and justice are required in the dealings of the husband between his wives for the marriages to take place, and then goes on to state quite clearly that no matter how a man tries he cannot be fair and just.
This effectively means that such marriages are not allowed in Islam.
What you see as Islam and what the majority of Mulims follow is not Islam but a seriously flawed alternative based on Sunnah and Hadith.
If you want to continue your attacks on this religion please stop using the word Islam, concentrated on the cause of the problem.
Adb Kareem said:
I knew this is part of your points to negatively stigmatize polygamy (and the next target is the Islam itself, right?).
The people here don’t need to do that, you are doing such a good job yourself of destroying Islam by your adherence to the manmade fabrications of Sunnah and Hadith, rather than following Allah’s words in Al Quran.
But friends, have you read the history of the prophets such as Abraham (the father of monotheism; we all, including the Jewish, knew he was one of the God’s prophet) “¦ and many other prophets thousand years ago. How many wives they have had ?
Allah, gave us all of his holy books to advance us from those days of ignorance and primitive behaviours, you are suggesting that we should ignore all of his teachings and return to that?
Being more fluent in English hopefully will not ease you adopting more and more secular nowadays agenda: reducing Islam understanding, insisting gender equality, spreading ridiculous human rights concept, and wrong democracy.
English has allowed millions to read Al Quran who would otherwise be left with twisted interpretations from the established Islam clergy, and don’t try and tell me that Allah does not have the power to put the message of Al Quran into peoples hearts if they don’t read it in Arabic, that is complete nonsense! Al Quran contrary to your Sunah and Hadith is all about gender equality, human rights and democracy it is only your twisted Sunnah and Hadith which support you twisted views.
Well, the syaria has its own verses regarding those issues.
And since when does Sharia supercede the teachings of Allah in Al Quran?
“Again for all .. it doesn’t make sense to talk about this topic in emotion since we have the different religion, background, education, views, society, etc.”
Kareem, as I said, it all goes down to this thing called a ‘common-sense’.. it’s so universal.. that you don’t have to be a Christian nor I have to be a Moslem to understand what that is.
Let me emphasize this one more time..
if you don’t want your husband or wife has another significant one, then here’s when the common sense kicks in.. don’t do that to your significant one.
It’s so just unbelievably simple.
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Just to remind you “¦ some of your words are not deserved to be thrown to the public, and it just succesfully reflects who you really are. Further, I knew this is part of your points to negatively stigmatize polygamy (and the next target is the Islam itself, right?).
Why is it that they aren’t deserved to be thrown to the public?
Kareem you’re such a joke, so for us there is no freedom of speech, but you are the only exception?
It’s the same thing, your opinion is such a joke that it also reflects of who you trully are, and like it or not Kareem, you are pathetic.
If I want to attack on something or someone, that would be AA himself and not Islam. Islam, according to my good Moslem neighbour, does forbid poligamy. I don’t attack Islam nor I do have any intentiion of doing so. It’s people like you Kareem that put Islam in a very bad name.
Problem: you always promote family values. There is no good family with TWO WIVES inside. It’s all about SEX, about a normal lusty guy always in Muslim dress. Don’t speak on behalf of God anymore, damn you…
So here’s tow newspaper covered two completely different stories but happened at the same time and same location.
We all know how Pikiran-Rakyat is so biased toward AA-Gym.. Anyway..
Here’s what Pikiran Rakyat have to say about this whole situation:
The headline is “Rini Memeluk Teh Ninih di Depan Aa Gym”
Rini holds Ninih (AA’s first wife) in fron of AA
and here’s what Kompas has to say about the event:
The headline says: Teh Ninih dan Rini Tak Bertegur Sapa
Ninih (AA’s first wife and Rini didn’t talk to each other
If you read PR version, they made it sounds like everything went so perfect.. while Kompas has a different story.
Head to this link for PR, and this link to Kompas
For me after reading the whole stories (from both sides), I think I trust Kompas even more, I mean, back with common sense. Who on earth would be willingly treated that way.
Dear Rini, you are a smart and fool woman. Smart, because you married the famous man. Fool, because you have already hurt a part of Moslem society. Be careful with your steps in the future time. Some peoples will not remain silent with folded hands when they look both of you.
I hearing news this are third married (married to AAgym) for this woman.
I want to know who are first husband? And second husband before this AAgym.
The fact of being one of the most corrupt country and the most corrupt department is the Religious Affair Department and the cases of Aa Gym – Alfarini Eridan and Yahya Zaini – Maria Eva are just an iceberg phenomena of how hypocrite your people are. So it will take centuries to become civilized and moralised nation. What a waste
At least, Aa Gym still has a brave to face us. I’m not sure if Yahya Zaini has the same brave with AA Gym
Alfarini is a beatiful woman. She can marry any man she wants, including another woman’s husband. How ever, if she want to marry two men at the same time the whole country will go on a riot because Islam allows only man to marry many women. What happened to Gym’s wife anyway? Is she obsolete or something?
I try to think what was in A’a mind when he decided to marry this beautiful lady.
Only to find that now I realize he is 100% flesh and soul a human, a normal human being. A man who like other men always have tendency easily kneel by the beauty of a woman (who can’t? is he?), and a great lover (since he has 7 children. wow).
Who won’t be able to resist so much temptation if you are handsome, famous, rich, and so many women looking at you smiling admiring you. Is it? I’ve been to his pesantren before and you will be surprised to find there’s so many ‘angels’ there. Beautiful angels. I was trying to take one home but failed coz I am not qualified. Hiks..
Main thing is that only God know what in his mind”¦..
dewa 19 said you have no rights to judge & justify other people conduct because you are not God, so shout up your mouth and let Aa Gym enjoy his life
litho said:
At least, Aa Gym still has a brave to face us
Aa Gym has convinced himself in some twisted way that he is doing Allah’s work, he doesn’t even see the reality that he should be ashamed. At least YZ is ashamed and has had the decency to resign his position in Golkar, lets just hope he gives up his seat as an elected member of parliament as well.
Atty Olsen said:
because Islam allows only man to marry many women
No it doesn’t, Sunnah and Hadith do, they have twisted the words of Al Quran until they are unrecognisable, anybody who thinks that Sunnah and Hadith is Islam is very badly lead astray from the truth.
Mohammed Khafi,
Your opinion are not quite smart representing a faith Moslem does. How come, my good friend? Other fellows such as Rockstar, Anonymous, etc. we may understand them due to their different background. Just they didn’t yet get the clarity regarding Islam in a comphrehensive explanation. &It happened already that their curiousity about us was then diverted to the wrong practice of Islam by Moslem themselves. This is including poligamy the matter we all now talking about.
But, you Khafi ?
See, a lot of our colleages who’re also overseas university educated were not as this far loosing their beliefs. Or … you yourself a person (of ‘liberal Islamic net’?) who has get twisted actually!
HERE IS THE IDEA: … AS OPPOSING POLYGAMY, WHY DON’T YOU FEMALE JUST CONSOLIDATE IN NOT TO ACCEPTING ANY ALREADY MARRIED MAN WHO HAS ASKED YOU TO MARRY HIM ?
IT’S THAT SIMPLE OPPOSING POLYGAMY, ISN’T IT ? OFF COURSE, YOU FEMALE HAVE TO BE READY WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. A LOT OF YOU WILL NOT EVER GET MARRIED.
Brother Abd. Kareem,
I absolutely agree with your statement. It is one of our tasks as Moslems. Again for brothers and sisters in Islam, don’t be so emotional, please be calm and iqro’, let’s learn much our truth comprehensive systems (not only religion) ISLAM which regulate all life aspects.
Please visit some Islamic situs where our credible scholars have made statements and fatwa. Islamonline.net, syariahonline.com, assunnah.com etc.
Anyway, alhamdulillah, I think this is the moment that ALLAH creates for us to care more about our religion. Not only as a “doctrine”. If still any differentiation of perception after learning scholars’ ijtihad, insya ALLAH it’s becoming rahmat.
Then let’s learn much our HOLY QUR’AN, which is still original without any change because ALLAH promises to keep the ORIGINAL from HIM until the last day.
Wassalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuh brothers and sisters
I AM SLIGHTLY LITERATE ABOUT FIQH, so correct me if I am wrong
While SOMETHING it has been WRITTEN PERMITTED, it doesn’t always can be done 100%, DEPEND ON CIRCUMSTANCES that will judging the OUTPUT”¦
SEE”¦.
>> Brushed your teeth is MUBAH and GOOD HEALTHY for your daily life, in non fast days”¦ but IN DAYLIGHT on FASTING MONTH it would then is MAKRUH
>> Lamb is HALAL and then EATING LAMB STEAK is HALAL for HEALTHY PERSON”¦ But for PEOPLE
WITH ACUTE HEART ATTACK POSSIBLITY eating 2 portion LAMB STEAK can be labelled HARAM
Lamb is halal (for healthy person), but EXCESSIVE FOR UNHEALTHY PERSON IS BECOME HARAM
>> Drinking one glass water is MUBAH of course HALAL,
But Drinking 2 Gallon of water (that would probably kill you) is then HARAM
Water is halal but the ACTION MAKES IT HARAM
IT IS NOT ONLY JUST ONLY STOP WHETER THE ACTION IS PERMITTED OR NOT MATTERS,
..ITS NOT THAT SHALLOW KIND OF RELIGION”¦
AFTER IT IS WRITTEN PERMITTED OR NOT,
REGARDLESS MOSLEM OR NOT..
GOD ALMIGHTY BLESS US ALL HUMAN WITH WONDERFUL TOOLS CALLED AQAL
SOME OF THE MAIN FUNCTION OF AQAL ARE TO ANALIZE, PREDICT AND MEASURE
WOULD SUCH ACTION IS NECESSITY TO DO SO THAT BRING GOOD THINGS TO HIM, HIS FAMILY, AND HIS COMMUNITY.. OR ELSE BRING DAMAGE THEM”¦
THE SKILLS TO USED IT THEN SO CALLED WISDOM”¦
GOOD LEADER HAVE LOT OF WISDOM,
ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT HIS PEOPLE NEEDS FIRST BEFORE HIS OWN NEEDS AND DESIRE”¦
NOT ONLY TELL THEM, DRIVE THEM TO GOOD DESTINATION, BUT ALSO MAKES THEM SELF CONFIDENCE AND PROUD OF THEIR COMMUNITY (..MOSLEM COMMUNITY IN AA GYM CASE..)”¦
BUT IF WE LET (CONCSIOUSLY OR NOT, BLINDFULLY BY SO CALLED LOVE??”¦)
NAFS (EVIL SIDE) TAKE OVER AQAL,
“¦ BELIEVE ME, EVERYTHING THEN CAN BE HAPPEN, “¦.
AND EVERY THEN DALIL CAN BE FABRICATED TO LEGITIMATE NAFS PURPOSE”¦.
>
ITS VERY UNWISE AND NOT PROPORTIONAL TO COMPARE ONE OF US WITH PROPHET MOHAMMAD SAW”¦
WHO IS MOHAMMAD SAW (THE CHOOSEN ONE) AND WHO IS OURSELVES (ORDINARY PEOPLE INCLUDING AA GYM)”¦?
EVEN GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF HAS ALREADY GIVE PRECAUTIONS.. “..IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP ‘ADIL’ BETWEEN THEM”¦”
.. WELL, ADIL IS NOT ONLY QUANTITY BUT MORE TOWARDS QUALITY”¦
AND WHETHER IT IS ADIL OR NOT.. ITS DEEP INSIDE IN HEARTS AMONG OF THE WIFES”¦
EVEN IN PROPHET MOHAMMAD CASE, 2ND ONE IS OCCURS AFTER 25TH YEARS OF HIS FIRST MARRIAGE.. 25 YEARS DISTANCE BETWEEN 1ST (HADIJAH AT 40 YRS OLD) AND 2ND (HADIJAH AT 65 YRS OLD)”¦
Abd. Kareem,
Allah does not need your twisted, evil version of his religion, and neither do I, neither come to that does the rest of the world! His Book and His Words are sufficient for me.
“Say: “Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? – when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail.” They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt.” 6:114
You said:
Just they didn’t yet get the clarity regarding Islam in a comphrehensive explanation
They don’t need your twisted “comprehensive explanation”, Allah says in Al Quran:
“And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition” 54:17
We are enjoined by Allah to use our own faculties to understand Al Quran and not to just follow what we are told:
“And when it said to them: Follow what Allah has revealed. They say: Nay! we shall follow the ways of our fathers. What! even though their fathers were void of wisdom and guidance.” 2:170
“And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for surely the hearing, the sight, the heart, all of those shall be questioned of.” (17:36)
My friend I have not lost my belief in Allah or my faith , they have both been strengthened by my questioning and research, I have thrown away the straight-jacket of Sunnah and Hadith and feel as if, at last, I am following the will of Allah in my daily life.
Dear friend
AA Gym, Yahya Zaini, Hamzah Haz only 3 men
3 divide 70 million Indonesian Moslem people
it’s very very litle…..
what are we talking about…
correction our attitide for ourself, family and neigbourhood
it’s enough for our little step
To be Honest,
As an ordinary man, I said Mrs. Rini is beautiful woman, more than Teh Nini…
@Faiz ..
and if that so,,then is it ok to marry her?
is it ok if ur daddy marry a girl who is more beautiful than ur mom?
RINI, WHAT YOUR REASONS MARRYING AA GYM? NO BETTER (SINGLE) MAN?
JUST CURIOUS!
Faiz:
The true beauty of a woman comes from her heart, the same place that her beliefs come from. Can you see into this womans heart?, do not let yourself be deceived by outer beauty or appearances.
@Faiz ..
and if that so,,then is it ok to marry her?
is it ok if ur daddy marry a girl who is more beautiful than ur mom?
Lets say If you are straight male, single 24 yrs old, no girlfriend, and at the moment “miss” Rini are at almost same age with you, she is single, straight too, one college with you, meet you everyday, nice talk with you, plus she is a model (actually) too,
what do you think?
I dont think you wont you try to approach her at all, or stupidly leave the chance to know her better..???
BUT, If you at that moment are married person, you work at the traditional market, she is a model, what can you expect??.. are you BRAVE enough to ask her to marry you as 2nd wife??
so then,
how if you have very rare 2nd chance in your life to meet her? and you still keep the strong desire inside your heart…
And currently your business grow from small outlet at stinky public market to huge respectable business with many company,
God Almighty bless you to became very famous and respected person on this country…
….and unexpectedly you met that girl/woman again!!! works in one of your your company…
she have divorced, still beautiful (even more than your wives, see her eyes direction at her pics above, that is one of lesson taken model course),
and you have access to all resources to convince her to marry you as 2nd wife…
would you think this time she would refuse your (too good to be true) offer??
I am not suudzon nor spreading fitnah, in fact that AA Gym already married her, instead I just encourage and imagine what possibility that might already occurs out there..
altough I am never being fans of him, I don’t believe AA Gym just marry this woman for a simple reason that could risk so much to him..
who ever knows that AA Gym may ever meet this woman long time ago… (..the time young AA Gym start humble loving marriage living with Teh Nini..) in AA Gym “Bakso” outlet, served by young AA Gym & Teh Nini…???
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@Miss Indo 07, would you please see my old post between some posting far above, I throw same question as you,
Mohammed Khafi :
Faiz:
The true beauty of a woman comes from her heart, the same place that her beliefs come from. Can you see into this womans heart?, do not let yourself be deceived by outer beauty or appearances.
Yes brother, It is 100% true, loud and clear…
pardon me, my retoric above is just to encourage each of us..
I’M BORED WITH POLYGAMY QUESTION,
I AM INTERESTING WHY, WHAT MAKES BIG FAMOUS, RESPECTABLE FIGURE AA GYM INTEREST IN THIS WOMAN THAT THEN CREATE PRO AND AGAINST AA GYM, ..
Brother, eyes are parts of our body that is NEVER LIES & WONT ABLE TO DECEIVE OTHER PEOPLE, eyes resembles it all..
If you see Mrs. Rini photo above, could you please more detail on her eyes…
at a glance, what do you thing she would like to communicate to others (..through her eyes on that photo..) ?
– I am mother with 3 kids?
– I am beautiful, stupid if you should not attracted to me?
– I will and could take your husband hearts?
– I am ugly ducking woman, have no self confidence?
– ????
how if you have very rare 2nd chance in your life to meet her? and you still keep the strong desire inside your heart”¦
then don’t marry your first wife in the first place if you’re not sure.
altough I am never being fans of him, I don’t believe AA Gym just marry this woman for a simple reason that could risk so much to him..
as strange as it seems.. temptation doesn’t need a pile of reasons to make a sane person insane.
would you think this time she would refuse your (too good to be true) offer??
it’s funny how people see it as a good offer while hurting the other person. I find it, amusing!
I AM INTERESTING WHY, WHAT MAKES BIG FAMOUS, RESPECTABLE FIGURE AA GYM INTEREST IN THIS WOMAN THAT THEN CREATE PRO AND AGAINST AA GYM
have you ever heard of a “temptation”? how people often fall in it (big times)?
at a glance, what do you thing she would like to communicate to others (..through her eyes on that photo..) ?
a hypocrite.. but yea hmm maybe – I am beautiful, stupid if you should not attracted to me? I’M BORED WITH POLYGAMY QUESTION
No question asked, poligamy is just simply wrong. (Except if you’re okay your wife marry another guy just because he’s more handsome than you.. hey people can make up excuses)
the hell with this syariah bullsh*t. i renounce my religion.
hey all moeslem go have your sex with whichever sorry moeslemah who is stupid enough to believe she will go to heaven by letting you get your way.
from now on i will be my own religion, belive in myself, do good deeds not because some 800 year old book told me too, but because its common sense.
any other atheist, Christian, budhist, etc. with enough decency will do the same.
we actually dont need any crazy religion telling us to obey or burn in hell…
I have personally taken many wives and I wish I had more.
all i can is… ISLAM is a Fake religion, Ustad is the EVIL… Aa too…burn to hell you all…… there is no such things as second marriage..
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It’s not wondering me that majority of the commenters in this area are not Moslem, and they’re struggling very badly in degrading the Islam belief of the believers. Just to remind you … some of your words are not deserved to be thrown to the public, and it just succesfully reflects who you really are. Further, I knew this is part of your points to negatively stigmatize polygamy (and the next target is the Islam itself, right?).
But friends, have you read the history of the prophets such as Abraham (the father of monotheism; we all, including the Jewish, knew he was one of the God’s prophet) … and many other prophets thousand years ago. How many wives they have had ?
Friends, right to the point; we are talking about ‘the setting’ God has created for human being and its all don’t have to be as per what we’re now thinking. A lot of lesson learnt behind the Islam’s rule. Look at the endless problem had been faced unsolved by the West government currently … … … … … I’m not just talking about AIDS, but also other social impacts of the illegal sexual conducts.
For the Moslem who have criticised me, pls. be wise, think twice before throwing an argument, and learn more. &I know you will be, my brothers/sisters! Being more fluent in English hopefully will not ease you adopting more and more secular nowadays agenda: reducing Islam understanding, insisting gender equality, spreading ridiculous human rights concept, and wrong democracy.
Well, the syaria has its own verses regarding those issues. Source of them widely available now. I’m not going to teach you. Just people out there suffers from the increasing Moslem. Look at there in the West … more and more highly educated people realized the truth in Islam and then bring them to convert the religion. The very contrast scene in this country which happen to the poor un-educated villagers.
Okay, now it’s about the LOGIC, basically I’ve tried to bring ‘just one of some reasons to the male for committing polygamy’ esp. to the female commenters … and polygamy just for them, the male, who considered need to do it. If you’re not agree, it doesn’t matter … probably … note that I just mention probably .. yeach again probably …. It’s mentioned in syaria anyway.
Again for all .. it doesn’t make sense to talk about this topic in emotion since we have the different religion, background, education, views, society, etc.