Aa Gym‘s new wife, Alvarini, or Alfarini Eridani.
This be she:
Joke.
Apparently this is her. Pretty lady…….
Alfarini Eridani.
Abdullah Gymnastiar….
I have predicted a long time ago that this holy man will be the craziest religious leader in Indonesia following Rhoma Irama, Hamzah Haz, and Zainudin.
Now, the die of his career must be begun.
Hallo Aa…..I am really emotional with all your statement adressing your new second married. You just put My Belove Prophet Mohammad and Alloh My Almighty God beyond your worse attitude and stupid reasoning, illogical and pretex.
Go to hell with all your reasons Gym.
I am truly disappointed with you, Gym.
If a man really thinks that women shall be rescued from life’s difficulty, then he shall allow them to marry more than one man.
I was so surprise to heard this news. It wasn’t good news for me. I don’t really know what is behind this marriage? I just want to let you know that we are all so disappointed. You are nice and you’re so pretty, you can have another man to be your husband.
I understand, a lot of the people who have send their comments right here were women, isn’t it? One thing you should try to do in your life is TO THINK BY YOUR LOGIC RATHER THAN BY YOUR EMOTION.
Please answer my this question: How all of you women can consistently solve the problem of un-ability of a married female in responding his legal husband’s call for a sexual activity? (pls. think about women’s menstruation period – a week in common -; post delivering the baby born – 40 days ‘nifas’ – , menopouse term, etc.) Will you let them to find ‘his solution’ illegally out there?
Or, will you just give him some money ‘to buy’ somegirl; the same thing with what happen in Western Culture (with monogamy) hypocrite life?
Beside that, there will be significant cases that some female are ‘designed by God’ not fertile or could have permanent problems with their reproduction organs.
Sorry, if you are not get married yet, you are not authorized to answer the question.
So, we are not just talking about Aa Gym “¦ “¦ “¦ & this is the Syaria of Islam
Hi (to who call him self a man…)
Who can run from the ‘beauty women’ (both side inner and outer) like this? Do not lie..
If you always meet another women who’s taking care with you, helping you…no wonder.
Be honest!!!
Please answer my this question: How all of you women can consistently solve the problem of un-ability of a married female in responding his legal husband’s call for a sexual activity? (pls. think about women’s menstruation period – a week in common -; post delivering the baby born – 40 days ‘nifas’ – , menopouse term, etc.) Will you let them to find ‘his solution’ illegally out there?
1. Are all men think about sex all the time??Or, will you just give him some money ‘to buy’ somegirl; the same thing with what happen in Western Culture (with monogamy) hypocrite life?
Beside that, there will be significant cases that some female are ‘designed by God’ not fertile or could have permanent problems with their reproduction organs.
Sorry, if you are not get married yet, you are not authorized to answer the question.
So, we are not just talking about Aa Gym “¦ “¦ “¦ & this is the Syaria of Islam.
Responding Abd Kareem’s commeent by LOGIC (btw, I’m married):
1. Are all men think about sex all the time?? Your statement makes people think that all men wants from a marriage is SEX. This discredits men, including Muslim men.
In contrary, if a married woman can not get her sexual need because her husband is unable to give (for instance; he’s impotent), why can’t can she have her need fulfilled from another man? Why they can’t pursue polygamy too? That’s the only fair.
2. As far as I know, polygamy is not based on sexual needs, Kareem, therefore, please read and understand throroughly abous Islam syaria before mentioning in your comment.
To Abd Kareem
marriage is not just for the sake of SEX,,
so please,,think with your brain,,not only with ur *****..
go ahead aa gym. I support you. Your way is the answer for the bad habit some modern people in this time. For all of you guys… do you know; Jakarta under cover, affair relationship, ect…. it’s very dangerous for ours.
Poligamy is the legal way. In Islam it’s ok, not so bad, not too bad. and look… free sex is not good.
Do you remember, some lirics of Indonesian song are showing much negative input; aku cinta kau dan dia, TTM, buaya darat, selingkuh, SMS. Polygamy is much better than that.
it’s the beginning ‘ the fall of the man named aa gym’
look, aa is a brave man…gentle…..he takes both responsibilities…….
women are always complaining about poligamy…but they never complaint on husband who have illegal sex……mesum….look what happen to yahya zaini….
compare the two…which one you like….?
1/3 if not 2/3 of adult man in jakarta are predicted to have illegal sex….so, be fair in complaining the issue.
those who complaint on polygami but let free sex to happen ..are really coward…bastard!
What a fuss for nothing !
Abd Kareem, do you know anything about blow job and hand job? Those are permissible in Islam. You got to be creative dude! no wonder you’re such a loser!
Allah Almighty is the creator of all the human beings. He knows what is good and what is bad for them. He also knows their particular needs. He says what means:
*{Does He not know, Who created? And He is the Knower of the subtleties, the Aware.}* (Al-Mulk 67:14)
Allah Almighty also says what means:
*{And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two or three or four; but if you fear that you will not do justice [between them], then [marry] only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course.}* (An-Nisaa’ 4:3)
It is important to note that polygamy is only allowed and not urged to be done.
When the West talks about polygamy in Islam, they refer to it as something weird and should not be valid in the human’s nature. However, polygamy was known from the very first day of existence of mankind on Earth. Neither, Jewish nor Christians forbid polygamy. On the contrary, the prophets of the Jews and Christians were known as polygamous. For example, King Sulayman (Solomon) is said to have had seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines. Dawud (David) had ninety-nine and Ya`qub (Jacob) had four. Christianity, as well didn’t forbid polygamy at all, as there is no single word banning polygamy in their scripts.
How would polygamy in Islam be unfair to women? Islam, as mentioned above, didn’t urge men to become polygamous, it only allowed it for certain purposes. Justice among wives is a clear restricted condition on the Muslim man who wants to marry another wife. That is clearly stated in the verse mentioned above (An-Nisaa’ 4:3). Whereas the West which is arrogantly refusing polygamy has different types of it, some of them are dangerous either psychologically or even physically for the society as a whole.
Types of polygamy known in the West:
Actually there are three kinds of polygamy practiced in Western societies:
“¢ Serial polygamy, that is, marriage, divorce, marriage, divorce and so on any number of times.
“¢ A man married to one woman but having and supporting one or more mistresses.
“¢ An unmarried man having a number of mistresses.
Islam condones but discourages the first and forbids the other two.
http://members.tripod.com/Islamiczone/women.htm
There is pretended monogamy in the West, but in reality, there is polygamy without responsibility; the mistress is cast off when the man is weary of her … the first lover has no responsibility for her future, and she is a hundred times worst off then the sheltered wife in a polygamous home.
When we see thousands of miserable women who crowd the streets of Western towns during the night, we must surely feel that it does not lie in the Western mouth to reproach Islam for polygamy. It is better for woman, happier for woman, more respectable for woman to live in polygamy, united to one man, only with a legitimate child in her arms and surrounded with respect, than to be seduced and then cast out into the streets, perhaps with illegitimate child outside the rule of law, uncared, unsheltered, to become victim of any passer-by, night after night, rendered incapable of motherhood, despised by all.
Please think of it.
I don’t know why but somehow I have projected this to happen, sooner or later, to him. With his whatever charm which attracts mostly ladies, old, young, married, singles, divorcees, they have been all hypnotized with the so-called-magnificent words of his.
Someone used to say, if I am not mistaken, long long time ago, about him, that he never quoted anything from the Qur’an, to show at least he’d read everything before passing it through to other people.
But who am I to judge?
Just one question, why is he now, hiding behind the law of God, words that he never quoted, the permission for something called, what ? EMERGENCY EXIT ??
You gotta be kidding me, there.
You gotta be kidding me if sthe lady is willing to be treated as an emergency exit only.
i guess this is a misinterpretation of polygamy in Islam. as we know the prophet Muhammad himself didn’t practice polygamy like that. he stayed true with his first wife khadija until her death. then he started taking abandoned old wives who couldn’t live on their own during those hard times because war killed many men and exacerbated the economy of the state.
a man these days could have done many things with a woman e.g. helping her children economically/educationally, helping her financially, using her as his employee due to her bright brain, etc. without marrying her!
i still don’t understand why he had to marry another woman.
bullsh*t all bullsh*t … if women married 2 men, can or not hah?
So, if this aa gym married 2 women, why woman can’t do the same?
What make these 2 persons different? Because one has breast and one doesn’t?
Come on!!!
What do you think R.A Kartini died for? For all Indonesian women rights!!
There are lots of widow of 60 years old and older, if aa gym want to be superhero, he should have married these pitiful fellows…
another hypocrite f**k up religious leader…
to trihadi: I pray that your wife will leave you and married another 3 men … why not? Can you define what justice is? If your act is regulated and not prohibited, but the same regulation doesn’t apply to another group, is this just? Even you say in the name of your holy bible, it is still crap and injustice. Don’t be so biased, or else you will become another KY … dakwah goes on, ngentot no problem!!!
trihadi, my my my, if you want to live in adultary because its ok in Islam don’t try pull Christianity into it, just to justify you unholy idea, in Islam its ok to mary 4 wives and justify it the way you want, but in Christianity its a sin.
offcource Christ told us in the bible that its wrong he said if you look at another women lustifully is already a sin, again he said “a man will leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife”, not wives please note, in mattew 19 Jesus said God created them man and woman, not women.
Islam is morally dankrupt, its as simple as that, everything that Christ say is wrong Islam endorse, for instance Jesus says the is no marriage in heaven but Islam say men will have several women for there sexual pleasure.
finally if you think have 2,3 or 4 wives will stop men from looking outside, you must be living in the moon.
please listen careful the God of the bible intend that men marry just one woman, that was why he created them man and woman, the kings and patriachs in the old testament, married more than one, but no where the God say is ok as a matter of fact Jesus says its because they hardened there heart.but be careful to note that people like solomon and david are not prophets, they might be called prophet in the Quran but its wrong they were never prophets and they are no prest either, most of the real prophet like isaiah, jeremaih and moses married just one wife.
that is one more reason, Mohammed is not a prophet simple.
please check your fact, stop listening to your imams read the bible for you self ’cause most of the time the al-Quran, imam and Muslim apologist are wrong, the bible is right.
trihadI said:
It is important to note that polygamy is only allowed and not urged to be done.
It is only allowed in time of war to protect war widows and orphans, please reread the preceeding verse if you need this to be made clear.
The verse quoted also clearly states another condition “if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans”, where are the orphans that Gym cannot act equitable towards?
trihadI also said:
“….the first lover has no responsibility for her future, and she is a hundred times worst off then the sheltered wife in a polygamous home”
“When we see thousands of miserable women who crowd the streets of Western towns during the night”
“…than to be seduced and then cast out into the streets, perhaps with illegitimate child outside the rule of law, uncared, unsheltered, to become victim of any passer-by, night after night, rendered incapable of motherhood, despised by all.”
Where did you get such nonesense, don’t forget that most of the people who visit here are educated, sensible people, please don’t try and insult our intelligence with such utter fabricated nonsense.
Also please do not use Western Values to try and justify your distortion of Allah’s Words. The sort of garbage you are quoting there can only come from a mind that is twisted and brainwashed.
It is not just Gym who has let Islam down with this actions it also his new wife, what was she thinking about?, she had a job and didn’t need the monetary support, perhaps she needed companionship and love, but wasn’t there somebody who was unmarried who could have given her this?
Perhaps she was seduced by Gym’s charisma, his power , or perhaps by his great wealth ? Whatever the reason, she has done the cause of Islam a great injustice by her actions. Setting back the struggles of women through our history who have fought for their rights and for justice in a system which is dominated by corrupt traditions to maintain mens positions of power and authority.
I am truly saddened by this whole sorry story!
If Allah meant men to have more than one wife he would have ensured that the numbers of men and women were unbalanced, as it is, all through human history except during times of war, the balance of Allah’s natural law has ensured that there is one woman for every man and vise versa. Believers should see a clear sign in this.
“And He it is Who spread out the earth and placed therein firm hills and flowing streams, and of all fruits He placed therein two spouses (male and female). He covereth the night with the day. Lo! herein verily are portents for people who take thought. ” 13:03
“Allah created you from dust, then from a little fluid, then He made you pairs (the male and female). No female beareth or bringeth forth save with His knowledge. And no-one groweth old who groweth old, nor is aught lessened of his life, but it is recorded in a Book, Lo! that is easy for Allah.” 35:11
“Glory be to Him Who created pairs of all things, of what the earth grows, and of their kind and of what they do not know.” 36:36
“He created you from one being, then from that (being) He made its mate; and He hath provided for you of cattle eight kinds. He created you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, in a threefold gloom. Such is Allah, your Lord. His is the Sovereignty. There is no Allah save Him. How then are ye turned away? ” 39:06
” And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect. ” 51:49
“And that He createth the two spouses, the male and the female, ” 53:45
What wrong with you guys??
Spending your time talking about this sh*t.
It is his right to marry more than one woman and the girl was not forced to marry him anyway.
Take care all of your own f*ckin bussines.
To any of you girl who want to have more than one man… go ahead.. I bet you can’t do that because no man wan’t to be threated like that which is different with women who can always share one guy ha ha…
Ismail said:
but in Christianity its a sin.
Why are your fellow Christians trying to promote it here? “Christian Polygamy”
What does it say in the Bible “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” Better you clean your own mess before coming here and trying to clean ours.
He’s been killing his career just because a “moment-paradise”
What about the question of Si bibir mer, guys?
– if women married 2 men, can or not hah?
So, if this aa gym married 2 women, why woman can’t do the same?
What make these 2 persons different? Because one has breast and one doesn’t? –
Thats the point!
After reading Mohammed Khafi post, I had a new point of view regarding Poligamy in Islam… and i think, that’s the bottom line of poligamy in Islam, yet that part is the untold story in local society..
Well, I dont know if our Muslim folks aware about this, but from the media or local news there is none of this kind of statement had been clarified, not even by MUI, NU or Muhammadiyah leader.
ps : Yes, she is a preety lady!!!… i mean, the second one 😉
Mohammed Khafi, i believe that you are quite steadfast in text applications and for that i have always respected your view even if I don’t agree with them, i follow the text of scriptures(the bible) to determine my position on any matter not what people claim, if someone has stolen and i call the person a thief, i am not casting any stone, just calling a spade a spade.
the bible is completely against poligamy and you won’t find any word of Christ that support in anyway,quite the contrary, he was against it.
Christian polygamy is a sad, and twisted theology, that will not find support in the bible therefore the body of Christ will call it heresy. because that is what it is. as Christian we must deny the flesh and follow the words of Christ and that is what makes us Christians in the first place.
I feel sorry for the women. I think it’s better for them to be left unmarried and settle by themselves than to be a wife of polygamous men. Women aren’t weak, you know, only men with many wives make them look weak.
hmm I posted my comment on the other thread.. but let me post it here too and add a few comments regarding this matter.
as I said, if you (esp Kareem) don’t mind your husband/wife has another significant one, can accept them with an open heart, be my guess.. good luck in maintaining the so-called harmony.. and more power to you.
but if you are against it.. then i salute you.
i mean yea in Christianity, we only allow to have just one significant one.. and no, you can’t bargain with it. But i mean it’s all going back to the common sense. Doing that will only result in hurting someone. My common sense tells me that if I love someone, automatically I will avoid doing things that will hurt her. That’s the common sense.
Sex is important but seriously it’s not as THAT important as Kareem stated.
let’s be careful when using this stupid excuse shall we? It’s gonna be bad if your wife suddenly says that she wants to have another husband because she’s tired of looking at your ugly face every morning. Hey that’s a similar excuse that Kareem stated.
“Or, will you just give him some money ‘to buy’ somegirl; the same thing with what happen in Western Culture (with monogamy) hypocrite life?”
Seriously dood where have you been, you watch melrose place or other cheap hollywood movies wayy too much.. why don’t you come over here and experience it yourself. Hypocrites are everywhere, but you don’t have to look far to find a good example, the guy here that we’re discussing right now is a very good example.
“Beside that, there will be significant cases that some female are ‘designed by God’ not fertile or could have permanent problems with their reproduction organs.”
Dood, what are you? a god? seriously, shame on you to say things like this. How about men themselves? you’re talking as if men are bigger then women. dood seriously, you’re outta line.
“Sorry, if you are not get married yet, you are not authorized to answer the question.”
You have no authority and right to forbid someone to express their opinion.
“So, we are not just talking about Aa Gym “¦ “¦ “¦ & this is the Syaria of Islam ”
It’s people like you Kareem who set up a very bad example of what syaria is, that makes us non-Moslem against the idea of syaria itself. This isn’t in Afghan, we live in a modern Indonesia world.
@fairreason.
excuse is still an excuse no matter how you look at it.. regardless no matter how they do it.. it’s just an excuse and that is wrong.
@RORO
“To any of you girl who want to have more than one man”¦ go ahead.. I bet you can’t do that because no man wan’t to be threated like that which is different with women who can always share one guy ha ha”¦”
just another shallow guy who barely learnt how to use the f-word and wanted to play the reasoning..
So wise guy, you’re saying ‘no man wanted to be treated like that’ and.. hmm.. women love to be treated like that? what on earth are you talking about? I just don’t understand at all.
and you’re saying ‘which is different than women’ dood, please clarify.. your statement is so contradicting and confusing.
DEAR ALL, let’s put simple things back to proportion, it’s got nothing to do with religion. JUST AA IS THINKING WITH HIS SMALL HEAD, NOT WITH HIS BIG HEAD….that’s the problem with the male species…when they’re horny the little head will take over
Ladies,
If you are single (virgin or widow, whatever), and a man with his charm and goodness surounding, his wealth and riches, have alot of bussiness, very educated with great intelectual, very religious person, seems no weakness over him, and he asked you to married him with his previous wifes’ bless. He and his wife promise You with their love…
What will you do then ? Refuse ? Common…. I don’t think so…, ask to your self again….
Man…
Who don’t have wealth…
What faithful or devoted mean to you. You may said that you have faithful and devoted to your wife…
But what happen if you are in wealthy conditions? Are You still faithful and devoted to your wife…? Think about that …
Man…
Who have wealth…
What do you think about flirty… its seems common to you right …?
And what your solution for that huh …? Free sex… means you never respect to a lady as a human being…
Well, we all never know what is it behind the scene…
But why you all throw that kind of (mostly) negative judgment to AA Gym ?
Religious person is also a human being…
Indonesian said “Kyai juga manusia bok…”
Let us just pray…
That there is a goodness behind the scene…
And Godbless be with You AA and your family always …
Wassalamualaikum wr wb
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Well, if Aa Gym wants to do a good deed, then he should’ve married the older lady instead. It seems that the younger woman can do just fine without Aa Gym. It’s the older lady who might need someone to take care of her.