Quran & Hadith

Sep 8th, 2006, in News, by

The validity or otherwise of the hadith tradition and its relationship to the Quran and how Muslims understand their faith.

This post has been created due to the female circumcision thread having gone substantially off-topic. Hopefully, within the spirit of the site, commenters can make some reference to the situation in Indonesia and within Indonesian Muslim organisations such as NU, etc, vis-a-vis their understanding of the hadith tradition.


212 Comments on “Quran & Hadith”

  1. Muhammad Elijah says:

    Brother DumadiSatrio

    Assalamu Alaikum

    This is not the first time I have come across the point you have raised.
    The internet Islam scene is predominated by predators of our Eemaan raising unfounded and even farcical hoaxes both about Quran and Sunnah which are meant only to counter our Alhamdulillaah strong faith. Billions of dollars are being invested on thinktanks to counter the strength of a Muslims’ Eeman that has defied superpowers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    So, if we don’t know an answer doesn’t imply that there isn’t an answer. If we truly seek answers we would find them.

    Ibn Khuzaima (rahimahullaah) had said :
    Bring me any two Saheeh Ahadith with apparent disharmony, I would solve and explain it.So, any alleged contardiction is a result only of a lack of understanding prevalent in Ummah for the past few centuries.

    Allah says:waanzalna ilayka alththikra litubayyina lilnnasi ma nuzzila ilayhim We have sent down unto thee the ; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them

    Why did Sahaaba (radi Allaahu anhum) need Allah’s Rasool for 23 years, inspite of the fact that they were more eloquent in Arabic than us?If the Deen was completed in Allah’s Rasool’s lifetime, as Allah says in
    Alyauma(Today)
    Akmaltu(I have completed)
    Lakum(For you)
    Deenakum(Your religion)
    Surah Al-Maaidah
    Ayat 3
    This day have I perfected your religion for you
    http://honorablequran.com/5.htm
    If the perfected Deen of Islam practised by Sahaabah (radi Allaahu anhum) is Quran and Sunnah, did the Deen change after Allah’s Rasool death?Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) had rightly said that all sects of Islam would enter Fire except those who follow the way on which I and my Sahaabah are. Maa Ana Alaihi Wa Ashaabi.

    Sayyidina Abdullah ibn Amr (RA) reported that Allah’s Messenger (SAW)
    said, “The same things will be faced by my people as the Children of Israel faced as a shoe compares with (its pairing) shoe, to the extent that if there was anyone of them to have approached his mother (for sexual intercourse) then there will be in my people who would do that. And the Children of Israel divided into seventy-two sects and my people will divide into seventy-three sects, all of whom will go into the Fire except the one“The Companions (RA) asked (him), “Who are they, O Messenger of Allah (SAW)”. He said, “(Who follow) what I am on and my Companions (are on).”
    Sunan Tirmizi 2650

    How should others offer Salaatul Janaazah Funeral Prayer for you if you die today? How would I know how Rasoolullah saaws offered Salaatul Janaazah because Allah says
    33:21 Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

    You quoted the words of Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam)

    He said, “It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne”

    Honestly, tell me have you ever read the Arabic words of Allah’s Rasool
    (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) yourself.

    The word here is Sujood, the exact word used in Quran for not only Shams (Sun) but everything in the universe.
    Allah says in:
    Surah An-Nahl
    Ayah 49
    Walillahi yasjudu ma fee alssamawati wama fee alardi
    And to Allah doth prostration all that is in the heavens and on earth
    http://honorablequran.com/16.htm

    May all of us die on the Islam of Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) and His Sahaabah (radi Allaahu anhum).


    Surah An-Nisaa
    Ayat 80
    Man yutiAAi alrrasoola faqad ataAAa Allaha
    He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah.

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  2. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Assalamu Alaikum Brother Elijah,

    You said:

    May all of us die on the Islam of Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) and His Sahaabah (radi Allaahu anhum).

    I prefer to think that I will die following the path of Allahs’ Islam, the same one he gave to ALL His Prophets and Messengers to give to His people.

    “Say (O Muslims): We believe in God and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac and Jacob, and their children, and that which Moses and Jesus received and that the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them and unto Him we have surrendered.” Quran 2:136

    I will endeavour not to be lead astray by the teachings of Men, and simply to follow Allahs words. All praise is due to Him.

    Peace

  3. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Say: Shall we call on that besides Allah, which does not benefit us nor harm us, and shall we be returned back on our heels after Allah has guided us, like him whom the Shaitans have made to fall down perplexed in the earth? He has companions who call him to the right way, (saying): Come to us. Say: Surely the guidance of Allah, that is the (true) guidance, and we are commanded that we should submit to the Lord of the worlds. 6:71

  4. Muhammad Elijah says:

    Wa Alaikum Asslaam Khafi

    I will endeavour not to be lead astray by the teachings of Men, and simply to follow Allahs words.

    I prefer these men through whose Quloob Allah preserved the words and true meanings of Quran over Orientalists Kuffaar who have led you astray.

  5. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Asalamu Alaikum Brother Elijah,

    Neither those you describe as “Orientalists Kuffaar”, or the so called Hadith Scholars you defer to, can divert me from following the Light that is Al Quran.

    Say: “Of your ‘partners’ is there any that can give any guidance towards truth?” Say: “It is Allah Who gives guidance towards truth,

    is then He Who gives guidance to truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance, unless he is guided? what then is the matter with you? How judge ye?”

    But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do.

    This Qur’an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book – wherein there is no doubt – from the Lord of the worlds. 10:35-37

    Read these verses carefully Brother Elijah:

    It is Allah who gives guidance to the truth!

    Who is more worthy of being followed, Allah, or somebody else who needs guidance?

    Most of them follow nothing but fancy!

    Al Quran is Allah’s confirmation of what came before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book. Does what your Lord describe as a fuller explanation need the words of men to explain it further?

    Peace

  6. Muhammad Elijah says:

    Wa Alaikum Assalam Brother Khafi,

    Asalamu Alaikum Brother Elijah,

    Jazaakallaahu Khairan for your Hilm.

    Read these verses carefully Brother Elijah:

    Insha Allah

    It is Allah who gives guidance to the truth!

    I fully agree, Khafi.

    Who is more worthy of being followed, Allah, or somebody else who needs guidance?

    Only Allah and His Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) according to Quran.

    Fain Tanaazatum Fi Shayin Farudoohu Ilallaahi War Rasool

    Most of them follow nothing but fancy!

    People have doubts about many other things, but doubts cannot form a basis of analysing realities.
    It’s our doubt and Insha Allah it will clear when we learn more.

    Imagine Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) testifying to the truthfulness of Muhadditheen among Sahaabah (radi Allaahu anhum), Tabieen (rahimahumullah), Taba Tabieen (rahimahumullah) and Aaimmatul Hadeeth (rahimahumullah), leaving no room for us for disobeying Allah by disobeying His Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam).
    Surah An-Nisaa
    Ayat 80
    Man yutiAAi alrrasoola faqad ataAAa Allaha
    He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah.

    And naturally, the disobedience of Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam) is disobedience of Allah according to Quran.

    Al Quran is Allah’s confirmation of what came before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book.

    It’s not me but Al Quran saying

    waanzalna ilayka alththikra litubayyina lilnnasi ma nuzzila ilayhim
    We have sent down unto thee the ; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them

    We must follow complete Quran, brother.

    Does what your Lord describe as a fuller explanation need the words of men to explain it further?

    Carefully read what our Lord says:
    waanzalna ilayka alththikra litubayyina lilnnasi ma nuzzila ilayhim

    Khafi, follow complete Quran otherwise it would become an evidence against you.

    Yakhruju Qaumum Min Ummati Yaqraoonal Quraana…..Yahsaboona Annahu Lahum Wa Huwa Alaihim
    There would arise from my Ummah a people who would recite the Qur’an…They would recite the Qur’an thinking that it supports them, whereas it is an evidence against them.
    http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=2326

  7. Muhammad Elijah says:

    Asalamu Alaikum Brother Khafi,

    Neither those you describe as “Orientalists Kuffaar”,..can divert me from following the Light that is Al Quran.

    We are a product of education system designed by Kuffaar to enslave us.
    Aaimmatul Hadith (rahimahumullaah) breathed in an air of political,intellectual and cultural freedom from Kuffaar, yet we were born as political, intellectual and cultural slaves and we would die as slaves, if we don’t reject every impure,borrowed and alien idea.

    English is neither my mother language nor yours, yet we speak to each other in English. Why don’t we speak to each other in the language of Quran?

    We have diverted so far away that we are doubting our own people, our own religion.
    If both of us could have spoken Arabic we would have been one.

    We have diverted so far away that we have even forgotten that we ever diverted.

    My brother, this secular education system made by Kuffaar divided brothers and sisters. Now, one brother in one family is a “fundamentalist” and the other “moderate”. Now, one sister in one family is a “fundamentalist” and the other “moderate”. Despite the fact that I love you but I am unable to express my love for you.

    We can never dissciate ourselves from Kuffaar Orinetalists.The following statements of beloved Sister Aisha are self-evident.

    Encouraged by the work of prominent, non-Muslim western scholars have also questioned the authenticity of hadiths on the same basis, those who advocate following the Qur’an alone assert that hadith should not be followed

    Hadith are such an integral part of traditional Islam in all its variations
    and

    For traditional Muslims

    Who is ‘traditional’?

    Should a Muslim brother be labelled by a word used by Kuffar to describe their own religious history.

    Isn’t there any Islamic term to describe your own brothers and sisters.

    Contrast “prominence” of Kuffaar Ulamaa with “the people who allegedly narrated” and “supposedly trustworthy individuals ”

    in the comment posted

    Early Muslim scholars took great pains to compile biographical information on the people who allegedly narrated and transmitted the hadiths in order to determine those who were to be considered reliable from those who were not. Only reports passed on by supposedly trustworthy individuals are to be considered authentic, and hence valid.

    Mirza Ghulam Ahmad the 20th century pseudo-prophet of India which was colonized by the British,
    Ghulam Ahmad Parvez 20th century denier of Hadith of India which was colonized by the British,
    Rashad Khaleephah late 20th century denier of Hadith of probably Egypt colonized by probably the French.
    Why they all belong to colonized lands?

    I would quote a few words of the colonizers who are responsible for our way of thinking.

    I have never found one among them who could deny that a single shelf of a good European library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia.

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1833macaulay-india.html

    “I have travelled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief, such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and ,
    therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if
    the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own,
    they will lose their selfesteem, their native culture and they will become what we want
    them, a truly dominated nation.”

    http://burningconscience.blogspot.com/2008/01/india-in-1835-proposal-from-lord.html

    Hence, we are not only diverted but truly dominated people.

  8. Aluang Anak Bayang says:

    Asalamu Alaikum Brother Elijah,

    We are slaves to Allahs, you are slave to the Arabs.

    Hence, we are not only diverted but truly dominated people.

    Save the above for yourself. Unlike Pakistanis, we do not seek to be dominated by anyone, much less the Arabs.

    English is neither my mother language nor yours, yet we speak to each other in English. Why don’t we speak to each other in the language of Quran?

    Allah swt created the moslem as well as the kuffaar. There were 128,000 prophets sent by Allah swt before nabi Muhammad, and none preached in Arabic. Technically, all human languages are languages of the Quran, unless your satanic thought tells you Allah is not omnipotent.

    Peace.

  9. diego says:

    @AAB

    One of the few sensible comments of yours.

    Are you feeling sick?

  10. ali h says:

    Asalamu Alaikum Brother Elijah,

    In Sura 4 verse 2 it mentions the punishment that has to be carried out for people found guilty of adultery which is a flogging of 100 stripes, now according to authentic or sahih hadiths, this punishment is only for unmarried people whereas if the person was married then stoning is the appropriate punishment, now dont these hadith contradict the Quran, The Sunnah of the Prophet say married adulteries must be stoned to death whereas Allah in Sura 4 verse 1 does not differ between married or unmarried people, how would you explain this contradiction which only a few weeks ago claimed the life of a 13 or some say 25 year old Somalian woman?

  11. DumadiSatrio says:

    @Muhammad Elijah: You have much respect for India and her culture, I agree, India’s hindu culture was very important and influential to human civilization, and should not be lost.
    I’m glad to see you are opened minded like that

  12. Muhammad Elijah says:

    AAB

    We are slaves to Allahs, you are slave to the Arabs.

    Technically, all human languages are languages of the Quran, unless your satanic thought tells you Allah is not omnipotent.

    Peace.

    Brother, Arabic is not exclusively a language of Arabs, more than 75% of Muslims are not Arabs. My mother language is Hindko. My national laguage is Urdu. My educational language is English. Arabic for me is not a language of people living in Arabia rather it’s to me a language of universal spiritual brotherhood that bonds Muslims like the members of a single global family when same Azaan echoes in the environs of Islamabad to the shores(I presume) of Java and everywhere else throughout the planet.

    You remind me of my younger brother due to some resemblance I am still trying to figure out.

    I love both Arabs and Javanese.

    30:22 And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours: verily in that are Signs for those who know.
    http://honorablequran.com/30.htm

    49:13 O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
    http://honorablequran.com/49.htm

    “America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white – but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.

    With racism plaguing America like an incurable cancer, the so-called ‘Christian’ white American heart should be more receptive to a proven solution to such a destructive problem. Perhaps it could be in time to save America from imminent disaster – the same destruction brought upon Germany by racism that eventually destroyed the Germans themselves.

    “Never have I been so highly honored. Never have I been made to feel more humble and unworthy. Who would believe the blessings that have been heaped upon an American Negro? A few nights ago, a man who would be called in America a white man, a United Nations diplomat, an ambassador, a companion of kings, gave me his hotel suite, his bed. Never would I have even thought of dreaming that I would ever be a recipient of such honors – honors that in America would be bestowed upon a King – not a Negro.

    Macolm X A Black Covert to Islam
    http://www.dawanet.com/nonmuslim/intro/convert/20.html

    “No other society has such a record of success in uniting in an equality of status, of opportunity and endeavour so many and so varied races of mankind. The great Muslim communities of Africa, India and Indonesia, perhaps also the small community in Japan, show that Islam has still the power to reconcile apparently irreconcilable elements of race and tradition. If ever the opposition of the great societies of the East and west is to be replaced by cooperation, the mediation of Islam is an indispensable condition.” (H.A.R. Gibb, WHITHER ISLAM, p. 379)

    “The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue…” (A.J. Toynbee, CIVILIZATION ON TRIAL, New York, p. 205)

    “How, for instance, can any other appeal stand against that of the Moslem who, in approaching the pagan, says to him, however obscure or degraded he may be ‘Embrace the faith, and you are at once equal and a brother.’ Islam knows no color line.” (S. S. Leeder, VEILED MYSTERIES OF EGYPT)

  13. schmerly says:

    @ AssmadsAngryBitch..

    Technically, all human languages are languages of the Quran

    What a load of tripe!! how do you think humans communicated before that? are you brainwashed or just brain-dead?

  14. diego says:

    smirkley,

    AAB was saying: any language in the world can be used to convery the message of the Quran.

  15. schmerly says:

    @ Dopey diego.. Stop being so thick, people may think your living up to your name.

  16. ET says:

    Muhammad Elijah said

    “The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue…” (A.J. Toynbee, CIVILIZATION ON TRIAL, New York, p. 205)

    True. And by doing so Islam replaces race or other social consciousness by a new artificial consciousness: the ummah and the kuffar. Us and them. It makes it easier to distinguish whom to conquer and subdue and have the defeated enslaved or pay jizzyah.
    A. Toynbee should go back to school and learn history from the facts.

  17. Oigal says:

    “America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white – but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.

    Dafur anyone??

    Certainly a noble thought (skipping the obvious we hate the white fellas reference) but like so many idealogies..doesn’t allow for human prejudices and the great fallacy is that people pretend it does.

  18. schmerly says:

    America needs to understand Islam

    I sick of hearing this, when is Islam going to make the effort understand the West?

  19. Muhammad Elijah says:

    Assalamu Alaikum

    Brother Khafi

    On December 18,2008
    You talked about Sermon of Last Pilgrimage i.e. Khutbatu Hajjatil Wadaa’

    Brother Elijah,

    Whilst I admire your kindly attitude and your interest in learning, I feel that you should be very circumspect of the Hadith collections.

    When The Prophets last sermon, which was witness by thousands of his followers is reported in three different Sahih versions:

    One version having the statement “I leave with you Qur’an and Sunnah.” The other version has the statement: “I leave with you Qur’an and Ahl al-bayt” (the family of Muhammad). The third version has the statement: “I leave for you the Qur’an, you shall uphold it.”

    Which of the three versions of the statements in The Prophets last sermon is correct? Is it not strange that despite there being thousands of witnesses to this sermon, that there are still three Sahih versions of the sermon? This simply proves the unreliability of Hadith.

    What hope is there for all the other so called Hadith which we are to believe were witnessed by only one or two people?

    I will leave you with a verse from Al Quran:

    “God cites the example of a man who deals with disputing partners, compared to a man who deals with only one man. Are they the same? Praise be to God; most of them do not know.” (39:29).

    Peace

    Brother,I studied the Arabi manuscript myself afterwards and I found that it’s not the case.

    When Allah’s Rasool (sall Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) exhorted about people of his household, he was not giving Last Sermon he was in Khum between Makkah and Madeenah.

    I hope you can recognise the Arabi:
    Khuman bainal Makkata wal Madeenah
    http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=5684

  20. Daniel Mercado says:

    Dear Mr. Kafi,

    Peace be with you.

    I am a christian who work here in Saudi Arabia. I just passed by in this site and noticed that you are discussing about Quran. Mostly of your topics about Hadith. I noticed that you have a broad knowledge about the Quran and for this reason I decided to give you a question if you dont mind. I have only one question and i hope you can give me an answer. I asked this question for more or less than 10 muslim persons here in Saudi Arabia including one Filipino who is in Islamic Center and two Saudi Muttawwa, no doubt they are religious but they give no answer to my question. I read a lot of booklets about Quran and I noticed that the Author of those booklets always used the word REVELATION as well as the Quran. That the quran is the REVELATION blah blah blah blah. Before i ask you, let me share first my opinion what is the meaning of the word REVELATION according to dictionary. (REVELATION, the revealing of something previously hidden or secret.)

    My question is like this.

    WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ALIF, LAM AND MIM in arabic or A,L AND M in English.

    I asked those muslim people that I mentioned and they said that THEY DON’T KNOW, only Allah knows what is the meaning of that. If it is true that the Quran is the REVELATION, Why Allah includes this writtings with no one knows what is the meaning of that even Muhammad? No one knows how to interpret it! Every letter, dots, and commas are very important in Quran especially in Arabic text. It is written in Quran, meaning there is importance of that. Please answer my question here or in my email. Or Whoever muslims knows the answer of my question.

    Thank you very much.

  21. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Daniel,

    Peace be with you also.

    You asked

    WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ALIF, LAM AND MIM?

    To be honest with you, nobody really knows the meaning. There are those who will try and explain to you what they mean but unfortunately this puts them into the category of those who only wish to confuse, and create argument:

    He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:” and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. Al Quran 03:07

    As the human race expands it’s knowledge, the meaning may one day become apparent, but as of now only Allah knows, and it may remain that way, until he wishes to enlighten us.

    Peace

  22. Daniel Mercado says:

    Dear Mr. Khafi,

    Peace be with you.

    I got your reply from the question that I sent to you and thank you for your effort. Though, you gave no meaning from my question but at least you are not pretending to give a meaning just to make me believe. The three persons that I mentioned in my first email are trying to convinced me to convert Islam ( NOT TO MENTION MY OTHER MUSLIM FRIENDS WHO TRY TO CONVINCED ME BUT NOT SERIOUSLY). Of course, as a normal person , i have to check first at least the Book (Quran) that you follow how authentic it is, how clear and true; for me to believe that it is came from God. If it is proven, then I have to go to the next step, to know how Godly this religion and to know what is inside of Islam.

    Unfortunately, my journey ( of checking the truth about Islam ) seems that will end here. I can not go through to my next move if there is no answer to my first question. Yesterday when I got your reply, my Muslim Bangladeshi co-worker recommends Dr. Zakir Naik to answer my question, so i try to search on the net who is he, luckily i found his site and email but sad to say that until now i got no reply.

    For over 1400 years, and for over a billion of muslim brains with over a hundreds of thousands of devoted Muslims and Muslims scholars worldwide, no one knows what is the meaning of Alif, Lam and Mim and for what and why He wrote it? The word REVELATION can not be applied to the Muslims Holy Book (Quran) since there is remaining which has not been revealed until now. It seems that the word Last Prophet can not be applied to Muhammad and there will be another Prophet after Muhammad just to reveal the remaining hidden or secret in the Muslims Holy Book (Quran). This is just only my opinion based to what i have noticed while im searching on this.

    Anyway, thank you for everything and May God Bless Us all and may God enlighten our minds to realize that one of our religion
    ( Catholic Christian & Islam ) is true and came from God.

    Bible prophecy according to Matthew 24:11, “and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people…”

    Friend in Christ,

    Daniel

  23. cookielady357 says:

    Peace to you,

    There is a mathematical explanation of the initials that appear on some chapters of the Quran. You can find more information here:

    http://www.message-of-god.com/Proof%20of%20the%20Quran.htm

  24. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Daniel,

    I wish you well on your search for the truth.

    Al Quran says that “Any who beleive in God, the Day of Judgement, and does good deeds, has nothing to fear from Allah”

    There have always been false prophets and people led astray by satan, who will try and divert others from the Path of God, even in your own professed religion of Catholisism. All religions and revelations from Allah or God if you prefer, have been corrupted.

    My advise to you is to study with an open heart, not be blinkered by existing predjudices, study all religions and in them you will find the essence of what Allah wants for the human race. True Islam is that essence, it is not what the mainstream of any religion practice, least of all the Arab fixated Mainstream Muslims.

    Islam allows you to accept all who meet the criteria given above of belief in God, the Day of Judgment and the doing of good deeds.

    Peace

  25. Bayu says:

    Well, from the fist exposure to hadith in high school, I simply disagree that hadith is the source of God’s teaching beside Quran. I, currently not a good muslim either, not doing shalat regularly, can’t read Quran properly, don’t understand arabic language.

    I believe Quran with no reason, it’s just a matter of iman. I don’t care who’s bukhari, or what hadith is. I do care, that those hadith simply insults Islam, with its mostly ridiculous teaching that stands behind Islam and the prophet. No a single teaching in Quran that contradicts my mind and heart. Yes, I felt guilty when I broke the law in Quran (hurting people for example), but I will feel more guilty if I have to follow the teaching of a man and take it as God’s law.

    Let’s just be honest to our heart, Islam was divided into so many faction because each of them held their own hadith (bukhari, hanbal, safi’i, etc., take a look at Indonesia). I don’t want to be Hell’s prisoner just because I follow the books of bukhari and friends, anyway they’ll give me no help or hold responsible for me in the end, why should I follow those who can’t protect me in this life or afterlife?

    I’m in Indonsia, and warns you, if you don’t have enough guts don’t ever tell anybody that you believe Quran only, or else everybody here will kick you (hardly!) as if you are devil-worshipper.

    Sorry for my bad english. Salam.

  26. asif raza says:

    I am quite confused after reading Mohammad Khafi’s article.Since Quraan does not mention anywhere about 5 times prayers then how are we going to offer our prayers?we only have come to know about how to pray is from the prophetic tradition which came to us by different sources.Therefore if we take out the books of hadees out of Islam then i am affraid no muslim will be able to perform salat according to Prophetic Sunnah.

  27. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Assalamu Alaikum Asif Raza,

    Either Al Quran is from Allah or it is not, and if it is and Allah tells us within its pages that it is complete, perfect, and fully detailed, why would we not beleive Him?

    Would you rather follow the instructions of men, or the instructions of your Lord?

    Peace

  28. Shuhei says:

    Asalamu’alaikum brothers and sisters.

    I am confused too. Please someone help. I somehow believe in my heart that it is wrong to believe something else other than Qur’an because as Muslims we must believe that God, Allah SWT is omnipotent, that HE does not forget, that HE does everything on purpose.

    The strongest argument you would encounter if you tried to convince people not to believe in any other books but QUR’AN including hadits would be that many religious rituals are not explained in the QUR’AN, such as how to perform Shalat, Puasa, Zakat, Hajj, how to bury the dead, etc.

    All those things we commonly do in our lives as Muslims are taught to us using the words in the hadits.

    Now if we are to believe that GOD does not forget, does it mean that those rituals performed by billions of Muslims according to the teaching of Hadits are “wrong”? Or can be done in another way not like how we know today?

    If how to pray exactly are not taught explicitly in details in the QUR’AN, can we then pray in any way we believe? Or can we fast differently? etc.

    I have a friend who is a true believer of the Qur’an ONLY (of course according to her limited knowledge only) and thus she concludes that doing “meditation” is one way she can do to offer pray.

    Please enlighten us.

    And it is true that you must be careful about being very open about not using hadits in your life as a Muslim here in Indonesia, as people will say you belong to the Kaffir, or the led ashtray ones.

    Thank you and salamu’alaikum.

    And while we are at it, Happy Idul Fitri to all of you, no matter what you believe…

  29. asif raza says:

    IM which talks about beleiving only in Quraan..how could you beleive a person or an organization when they themselves breach the rules set by Quraan.the page which contains the the comments on hadith and quraan,has half nude picturs of women.so who so ever owns this site is not only trying to create another division in Islam but defaming it also But Allah says in quraan that no matter how hateful the people may be of Islam,Islam will prevail on all other religions.and now after 1500 years a man comes out and denies all the books of prophetic traditons.what a shame

  30. andrey says:

    There is also within the pages of the Qur’an:
    “Wahai orang-orang yang beriman, taatilah Allah dan taatilah Rasul (Nya), dan Ulil Amri di antara kamu. Kemudian jika kamu berlainan pendapat tentang sesuatu, maka kembalikanlah ia kepada Allah (Al Qur’an) dan Rasul (sunnahnya), jika kamu benar-benar beriman kepada Allah dan hari kemudian. Yang demikian itu lebih utama (bagimu) dan lebih baik akibatnya.
    QS. an-Nisa’ (4) : 59”

    Dont try to be a brain doctor if you dont have a medical degree on brain.. you most likely end up killing people.

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