Salafiyah, Salifi Sect in Lombok
Aug 28th, 2006, in News, by PatungLombok Muslims keep up the pressure on deviant Islamic sects as the homes of Salafiyah members are attacked in the west of the island.
Hot on the heels of an attack on another fundamentalist congregation in Lombok, a Wahabi mosque last week, on the 27th in the village of Gelogor, West Lombok, hundreds of people attacked the home of Haji Sahabudin, the head of the Salafiyah group in the village.
It appears metrotv that the excitable residents of the village, who carried planks of wood and rocks in their attack, objected to religious services being carried on by the Salafi sect well into the night, and to their form of Islamic teachings.
At the time of the attack the house was occupied only by Sahabudin’s wife and child. Rocks were thrown at it and the mob threatened to burn it down. Police and senior figures in the village managed to prevent this however, but the house was nevertheless severely damaged.
Murni DS of the police said that previously attempts had been made to settle the dispute but some residents refused to accept the existence of the Salafiyah group. This was not the first time that homes of Salafiyah members had been attacked, he said.
Apart from the Salafiyah and Wahabi sects the Ahmadiyah have also often been targets of persecution in Lombok in recent times.
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February 22nd 2008. In the same area of West Lombok about five homes belonging to Salafiyah members were attacked by a mob. Salafi members are accused of having distributed pamphlets which attacked the majority beliefs in the area, that is Ahlisunnah Waljamaah. antara
41 Comments on “Salafiyah, Salifi Sect in Lombok”
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Mohammed Khafi says:
Hassan,
By following the Sunnah of the Prophet given in Al Quran.
Peace
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Hassan says:
and yet you didn’t
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Hussain says:
Mohamed Khafi: Just one question to you. How do you perform your solah? Allah ordered Muslims (in the qur’an) to perform solah but the way of performing it was showed by our beloved prophet Muhammad (pbuh). The qur’an do not explain on how to perform solah.
Hassan: Thanks for your eloquent explanation.
May Allah give all of us taufiq.
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Augusto: you cannot generalised the whole Muslim just because of a handful of Muslim doing that. It is actually the media propaganda that portray Muslims as terrorrists. If you look into this website http://www.reopen911.org/ you will understand what i mean.
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Hussain,
I am one of those who remembers Allah, whilst standing, sitting or lying on my side. To me prayer is more than just a ritual which is carried out, it is part of my every waking activity, I try constantly to be thankful to Allah for what he has blessed me with, . . . health, a beautiful and intelligent companion, two wonderful children, the intelligence to reason and think, and the freedom of choice to make decisions.
Let me ask you some questions Hussain:
Do you believe that Al Quran is the word of Allah?
Do you believe it when Allah says Al Quran is complete, perfect and fully detailed?
Do you believe when Allah says that if all the oceans were ink that he has enough words to use them all up and the same again?
Do you believe Allah when he says ” Now that I have given the this book complete and fully detailed, In which Hadith will they believe”If your ritual were important, do you think that Allah would have left it out of His Book which he desribes as “fully detailed”.
Peace
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Muhammad Khafi: You have not answered my question. What you were mentioning is remembering Allah (i.e. dzikrullah). But solat was mentioned many times in the Qur’an. The ‘ritual’ you are referring have been practiced by the Muslims since the time of rasulullah (pbuh)? You cannot just separate Al-qur’an and sunnah, it does not work like this. we cannot interpret or tafsir the qur’an by our own it must have guidance from ulamaas. Furthermore these ulamaas have spent their life on studying Islam. I think Hassan has explained this well in previous posting. The hadiths used by ulamaas are not just by cherry picking but through extensive research of it authenticity. Who r u to interpret Qur’an by yourself? Even in studying medicine or engineering, students need guidance from professors so as not to be deviated from the true understanding of the knowledge. Then what about the understanding the holy Qur’an? Don’t we need assistance?
Anyway, I know you are from the khafi movement, which moving underground in indon and Malaysia. read this website ( in malay language), http://www.abim.org.my/web/modules/news/makepdf.php?storyid=611
This is my second and last posting in this page.
May Allah give all of us taufiq.
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Hussain,
Do you believe that Al Quran is the word of Allah?
Do you believe it when Allah says Al Quran is complete, perfect and fully detailed?
Do you believe when Allah says that if all the oceans were ink that he has enough words to use them all up and the same again?
Do you believe Allah when he says ” Now that I have given the this book complete and fully detailed, In which Hadith will they believe”If you wish to take the word of men over and above that of Allah, that is your choice, as I said before if your Ritual Prayer was so important Allah would have detailed it in Al Quran His complete perfect and fully detailed book.
My friend you know nothing about me, I have no associations with any organisations, either in Malaysia or here at home. That sort of assumption making shows clearly that you are incapable of rational reasoning.
That was your second and last posting on this page because you cannot argue with the words of Allah.
Your Sunnah and Hadith are a gross corruption of Allah’s simple religion, anybody with any intelligence and reasoning can see it, unfortunately you are all brainwashed into believing that it is the truth. Just remember this, taking other than Allah’s directions or instructions in matters of religion means that you are commiting shirk.
It’s your choice, Gods word or mans fabrications? It’s not too late for you to change.
Peace
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Hussain,
You said:
The ‘ritual’ you are referring have been practiced by the Muslims since the time of rasulullah (pbuh)?
We are supposed to be following the religion of Nabi Ibrahim are we not? Not the religion of Prophet Mohammed. Once again you show that your idolisation of Prophet Mohammed has blinded you to the truth.
“And who turns away from the religion of Abraham but such as debase their souls with folly? Him We chose and rendered pure in this world: And he will be in the Hereafter in the ranks of the Righteous.” 2:130
“And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam.” 2:132
“Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).” 2:136
“Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith.” 3:68
“Say: “Allah speaketh the Truth: follow the religion of Abraham, the sane in faith; he was not of the Pagans.” 3:95
“Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend. ” 4:125
“”And I follow the ways of my fathers,- Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and never could we attribute any partners whatever to Allah: that (comes) of the grace of Allah to us and to mankind: yet most men are not grateful. ” 12:38
“So We have taught thee the inspired (Message), “Follow the ways of Abraham the True in Faith, and he joined not gods with Allah.” 16.123
Do you really think that Nabi Ibrahim when he was praying used to say, “I believe that Mohammed is The Messenger of God” Then why do you say it?
Do you even believe that Mohammed used to say it? I find it difficult to believe that The Prophet was into such self glorification.Peace
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Hussain, I will just leave you with this which is quite poetic:
“If a writing expresses something which is found in the Qur’an, then it is superfluous, and if a writing expresses something not in the Qur’an, then it is blasphemous”
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adi says:
@Hassan,
Salamun’alaikum,
Nowhere in the Quran is the shahadah that says “There is no god but God and Muhammad is his messenger.”
Only “There is no god but God.”
In Quran [3:18] God bears witness that there is no god but HE,and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge.Truthfully and equitably,He is the absolute God; there is no god but He,the Almighty,Most Wise.
I believe this is the only true proclamation of faith for believers in Islam.Peace.
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Mohamed Khafi: did it ever just once occur to you that maybe, just maybe, it is you brother khafi that shaytan had led astray? it maybe us, or it may be you..
btw, I was asking for a historical account when Muslims stop following the examples of Muhammad (pbuh), not a historical account of the compilation of the hadith.
Muslims had always followed Allah’s teachings, but we cannot follow Allah SWT by example because the sheer difference in our form to Allah SWT’s. so He created Muhammad (pbuh) so we can follow his examples (uswatun hasanah). Muslims had always followed Muhammad’s (pbuh) examples since the early days. and following his examples meant following his hadith and sunnah. how else can we follow the examples of a dead man?
7-158 “O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided.”
how else can we follow (the examples of) a dead man, except by following his hadith and sunnah?