Mysticist Quran Desecration
Aug 3rd, 2009, in News, by Patung
Blasphemous farting attempts in Probolinggo see police swing into action against a kejawenist rebel.
In the East Java regency of Probolinggo police have arrested one Jazuli, a resident of Kebonagung village in Kraksaan district, on blasphemy charges, specifically for tearing pages out of a copy of the Quran, sitting on it and trying to fart on it.
A neighbour of 39 year old Jazuli secretly recorded the Quran ripping and sitting on/attempted farting on a mobile phone, while later members of the FUIB (Forum Umat Islam Bersatu) reported the matter to the police. On the night of 31st July dozens of police descended on Jazuli’s home to arrest him.
The man who recorded the video said
If he does things like that it’s obviously blasphemy, his blood is halal according to Islam and he must be stopped.
Probolinggo police chief Adj. Sr. Comr. Sunardi Riyono says Jazuli, a father of five, is not being prosecuted for what he believes, but for insulting the beliefs of others: thejakartapost
The case has nothing to do with the suspect’s beliefs as he
doesn’t have any.
However in most reports Jazuli is said to be a devotee of Javanism, or Kejawen, having learnt it in Malang, and having studied Raja Yoga (classical, Hindu yoga) in Bali. He himself says
I study the works of Anand Krishna.
A man in a neighbouring village said Jazuli was well known in the area for his deviant beliefs and had many times before insulted Islam. probolinggokab.go.id
Before his desecration of the Quran Jazuli is supposed to have said:
There is no God, where is God? If He were here I’d rip rip out his eyes and mouth.
East Java Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) leader, KH Abdusshomad Buchori called for calm, while worrying that this was not an isolated incident but had occurred against a background of systematic heresy against Islam going on these days, and he suspected that there were forces or people behind Jazuli’s wild actions. He hoped that in future the police would take a more pro-active role in preventing such blasphemy as the Jazuli case. dutamasyarakat
Abdusshomad Buchori
30 Comments on “Mysticist Quran Desecration”
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To my understanding “his blood is halal” is the correct expression, which means (afaik): it’s ok to kill him; doing it wouldn’t disqualify you from the race “toward 72 virgins”.
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Rambutan says:
There is no God, where is God? If He were here I’d rip rip out his eyes and mouth.
Definitely a contender for quote of the year.
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Sick Jackal says:
Hmm…So much for freedom of speech, i wonder if anyone here can find an article on desecration of Christianity that led to persecution. Probable answer would be…not in a long time.
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Just Planting Seeds…
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Did you know that exactly two-hundred-thirty-nine beans are used in making Javanese bean soup because adding one additional bean would make it too farty.
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Seeds, beans…it’s all coming together for me now on this one.
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Odinius says:
Sick Jackal said:
Hmm…So much for freedom of speech, i wonder if anyone here can find an article on desecration of Christianity that led to persecution. Probable answer would be…not in a long time.
While I’m no fan of Indonesia’s illiberal blasphemy and defamation laws, the actual answer to your question (which you probably thought was rhetorical) is: recently.
Google “tempo” and “blasphemy.”
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Google “tempo” and “blasphemy.”
Better yet, use the search box at the top of this page! http://www.indonesiamatters.com/search/?cx=016886405183225836248%3A5zght-aysn4&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=tempo+blasphemy&sa=Search#938
Second result is http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1617/the-last-supper/ !!!!
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Some good points raised here guys. Although the article quoted above is fairly humorous not to mention its factual accuracy comes under question. The biggest problem i have with all religions for that matter, is the way they seem to impose themselves on liberal society where freedom of speech becomes almost obsolete and the minority of fanaticism overrules the masses. Without further elaboration look at what happened to Denmark a few years back. At the time of the incident i lived in England, the case sparked so much controversy that people where protesting on the street and burning the Danish flag while lifting banners with “death to infidel” (an alarming thought in the modern western society). The Governments reaction? An official apology issued to the “offended”. Brilliant.
I’m a believer myself, being of Christian Orthodox religion i take it seriously. But one significant difference is that i believe that religion shouldn’t dictate the law of the state, in any country for that matter (something that Indonesia has failed in) seeing as it is the opium of the people (not taking Marx literally) it has no right to have enforcement from the authority no more than me or Paris Hilton does.
Brap Brap
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SJ, no there’s no problem with its factual accuracy, you can check the footlink sources for yourself…as for humorous, I can’t really say, but the farting angle was just too good to pass up on….
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I take your word for it, my furry little friend. I suppose sometimes fact can be stranger than fiction ha ha.
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SJ:
Patung is right. The article is quite accurate. You unfortunately also don’t have to look to hard to find examples of people of any religion taking umbrage at things they really should take in stride. You also don’t have to look hard to find people unecessarily trying to humiliate people of another religion. It’s kind of a crap world we live in, and people who delude themselves into thinking that their religious beliefs (or lack thereof) gives them some special rights on this earth are one of many reasons why it’s so crap. So yeah, I also think religion and the state should be completely separate.
Still, we shouldn’t beat up on people who mix politics and religion too much, because in the past century or so, they haven’t caused anywhere near the death or destruction as those who mix politics and nationalism…
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Ross says:
Or again, as many deaths and as much destruction as atheist communists.
Anyway, this guy should not be jailed, never mind killed. He’s just bloody rude.
It’s interesting that the crackers in the MUI are starting to feel the heat from Indonesia’s original faith. -
Good point there, Ross. People should laugh at him and call him a fool. Much better solution to him being a d*ck than screaming for blood.
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douwedabbert says:
.. His blood is halal..
Halal or not halal we have laws. As far as i know is not based on islam.
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DumadiSatrio says:
If his blood is halal, can we eat him?
anyway, Ross is very mostly right, but I dont think he was being rude, just maybe slightly insane. Or not, if anything it looks like a spiritual frustration, and he is taking it out ritually on a book. He may have feelings of anger towards the islamic religion and this maybe how he deals with it. For whatever reason, he felt he needed to take it out on a book and challenge god to a fight. It doesnt really make any sense to me, but I guess it makes sense to him. Since I never met the guy, and no one here knows his side of the story, I guess anything is just that…guessing.
But, in the end, From what I understand here, he was doing this in private? So, it is nobodies business really. -
Not really private, it started like this apparently….somebody in the village died, so this guy and all the men went to his house for a prayer session for the dead man, somebody was deputised to read something from the Quran, and the fellow here said ‘don’t read that crap‘, and then an argument started….the man then went home and was followed by a group of other men, who confronted him and argued some more, that’s when Jazuli produced his Quran, ripped it, sat on it, pretended to fart on it, one of the group of men secretly filmed it with his phone and later showed it to the FUIB who went to the police.
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ET says:
So this Jazuli guy in question partially blames Anand Krishna for his blasphemic farting.
I study the works of Anand Krishna.
Now Anand Krishna is a prolific writer – he even is an occasional contibutor to this forum – and I have read several of his books but never felt a flatulent inclination towards the holy Koran because of it, anyway not in a physical sense.
However I cannot confirm the same upon reading the holy Koran itself.
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Rough Ryder says:
If his blood is halal, can we eat him?
Be very careful – that verges on blasphemy as it is cynical and therefore also insulting.
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Suryo Perkoso says:
ET Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
So this Jazuli guy in question partially blames Anand Krishna for his blasphemic farting.I study the works of Anand Krishna.
Now Anand Krishna is a prolific writer – he even is an occasional contibutor to this forum – and I have read several of his books but never felt a flatulent inclination towards the holy Koran because of it, anyway not in a physical sense.
However I cannot confirm the same upon reading the holy Koran itself.
Anand Krishna is a prolific farter too – so would you be if you ate curry morning, noon and night.
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Brother Mouzone says:
Be very careful – that verges on blasphemy as it is cynical and therefore also insulting.
Absolutely, it’s obvious that if only his blood is halal, we wouldn’t be able to eat all of him. We’d clearly need to make some kind of black pudding/blood sausage from him instead.
That’s got me hungry now. Does anyone know where you can get black pudding in Jakarta? Haven’t had it for years.
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Mike Oxblack says:
A simple examination of this loon’s diet should settle things. If what he eats is halal then his farts should logically be equally kosher.
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Be very careful – that verges on blasphemy as it is cynical and therefore also insulting.
Ya, but can we?
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Blasphemy laws are a terrible imposition on free speech and ultimately something from the dark ages. If you want to worship an illiterate 7th century preacher then that’s your business but none of the rest of us are obliged to take it seriously. The right NOT to be insulted is something that anyone living in a post enlightenment society should not have. Sticks and stones….and farts of course,
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Actually Islam is very tolerant about farting, provided one cannot hear or smell them. Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) revealed this in Bukhari’s Book of Wudu:
Bukhari:V1B4N139 “He asked Allah’s Messenger about a person who imagined to have passed wind during the Salat prayer. Allah’s Messenger replied: ‘He should not leave his Salat unless he hears sound or smells something.'”
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Or of course unless he follows though, then failing to leave the Salat could be a very costly mistake, both in terms of personal pride and Omo.
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Anand Krishna says:
I am enlightened by friend Suryo Perkoso’s statement: “Anand Krishna is a prolific farter too – so would you be if you ate curry morning, noon and night.”
I should write a book on the subject, i am truly inspired: Curry and Books, wow!
Btw, i prefer sayur lodeh and kangkung tumis to curry. Love you all…
PS: As to Jazul, i dont know which anand krishna he means, for i respect Qur’an as i do respect Bible, Veda, Dhammapada and other scriptures.
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Yudha Renesanto says:
Mr Suryo Perkoso,
I’m a prolific farter too, and that not because eating curry morning, noon and night.
What a farter got to do with the issue being discussed here ?Let me tell you something (quoting AK): Instead of degrading others, upgrade yourself – that is the master key to “becoming big”.
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Ayesha says:
However in most reports Jazuli is said to be a devotee of Javanism, or Kejawen, having learnt it in Malang, and having studied Raja Yoga (classical, Hindu yoga) in Bali. He himself says
I study the works of Anand Krishna.
A man in a neighbouring village said Jazuli was well known in the area for his deviant beliefs and had many times before insulted Islam. [2]
Before his desecration of the Quran Jazuli is supposed to have said:
There is no God, where is God? If He were here I’d rip rip out his eyes and mouth.
As I read this paragraph, I cant help to stop and wondering. What does Anand Krishna’s business with this guy, Jazuli, learning process, his beliefs and acts ?
I ve read several Anand Krishna’s books. There is none in those books that suggest people to be an Anti-Islam. In the contrary, Anand Krishna’s books, titled Al-Fatihah and Surah-surah Terakhir, were very much Islamic, at least in my humble opinion. He truly gets the message of Islam, which is love and peace. And about Kejawen and Raja Yoga, I also knew many people with their Kejawen beliefs and many other people learn yoga. Those people dont commit such blasphemy.
IMHO, this paragraph can be considered subjective. Jazuli deserve to be charged because of his blasphemous acts, but relating Kejawen, Raja Yoga and Anand Krishna as the cause of his blasphemous acts is irrelevant. Everybody cook their own broth, dont they ? Then everybody should take the responsibility on their own and not blaming on a concept or a person.
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Don’t they mean “his blood is haram” r am I reading his sentiment wrongly?
In anycase the boy is touched with the daffy stick.