Luthfi Assyaukanie
Aug 8th, 2006, in News, by PatungLuthfi Assyaukanie is a liberal Indonesian Muslim intellectual and puts out a good stream of writing on Islam topics.
Luthfi Assyaukanie’s latest piece is called Islam Needs Reformation, Not Restatement in which he says:
Islam needs reformation and not restatement. The regression of Islam is very much due to the domination of the traditionalists (or better to say the conservatives) and the revivalists in Islamic discourses. Islamic doctrines that are taught in Islamic institutions, be they in pesantrens (Islamic boarding school) or in advanced level of study, centre around classical issues that are not capable of answering the challenge of the age.
More practically, he calls for the dumping of specific doctrines
…such as jihad, discrimination against woman, and the negative attitude towards non-Muslims
This view could perhaps be contrasted with Hasyim Muzadi’s concerns about a “sell-out” of the religion, if certain fundamental aspects are reworked, and with the question of whether moderate Islam leads to moderate faith, and thence its effective destruction.
14 Comments on “Luthfi Assyaukanie”
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Hassan says:
dumping specific doctrines? how about if those doctrines came from God? dump what He said down the sewer?
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Miss Indo 07 says:
Hi Hassan,how do u know if it’s from God? Maybe YOUR GOD teach to kill people that don’t have same way of thinking with u?
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Andrew says:
Exactly, how do you know it’s from God? God doesn’t teach you to do bad things to others – not my God certainly.
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Mohammed Khafi says:
Asalamu Alaikum Hassan,
My friend, we all know what you follow, and it certainly isn’t the uncorrupted word of Allah.
“Follow what GOD has revealed herein,” they say, “We follow only what we found our parents doing.” What if their parents did not understand, and were not guided?” 2:170
“They commit a gross sin, then say, “We found our parents doing this, and GOD has commanded us to do it.” Say, “GOD never advocates sin. Are you saying about GOD what you do not know?” 7:28
Wassalam
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See?
I guess actually all those fanatic muslems who just mess around actually even never touch the Qur’an,n they act as if they knew n understood the whole content of Qur’an.. -
The problem in Indonesia, is that many who profess to know Al Quran and infact can recite it from memory, just don’t understand Arabic and are simply making the sounds. They rely totally on others to explain it to them. Even if they pick up an Indonesian translation of Al Quran, invariably the translation is made in such a way that it is twisted to support the Hadith, an example my wife and I found recently was the sustitution of the word genitals for the English word modesty!
The religious teachers and scholars don’t want to change this sytem because it will lead to a loss of their livelihood and power over the people and the government don’t want to change the system because religion gives them the ability to control the masses.
Salaams
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Ambo Dalle says:
Hallo people!
One think i must tell u,U can not kill each other because religion,no matter what kind religion u believe,all teach u good things,right?
and to the people who belive God,Allah…or whatever! are Afraid,and scared poeple! these people always make trouble on earth,killing each other,bloodsh*t!
people who no believe in God mostly peacefull people
so please,thinking of Humanbeing not thingking something invisible!
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yes of course,
I’ve never heard that my religion teach me to kill,
God always teach to forgive n forgive n forgive..
just like how He always forgive us..one thing that confuse me..are those fanatic people (both Christians n Islams)
fanatic people always think that they’re the best..they’re always right,n another people are dirty sinful people..
n what’s more,they always are sure that they have right to judge n punish those “sinful” people
while even God himself never stop forgiving us..okay,maybe I’m not a very good Christian,I always do sth wrong,purposedly or not,but i admit it,
n i dont just blindly defense every single Christian just because I’m Christian.. -
MISS INDO 07: my God never teaches to kill, the God of Muslims never teaches us to kill another of God’s creation, specially fellow human beings. get it? now ease off the tone.
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Hallo again!
Most sucide bomb are Muslim fellow,dont really understand why they are doing this? they always expecting the paradise after the death! those who belive paradise after death are Scared,Afraid,and no happy people with own destany!
And they always try to push to be done Syariah in the country where very-very mixed culture,behiviour,religious and so on,how come such as Syariah as rules in Indonesia? this is Wrong Rules,because this Rules only exist in middle east! not in South east Asia! we are not Arab people,we are Real Indonesian sociaty and i do really proud of it!
Syariah? NO WAY! -
Miss Indo 07 says:
Hi Hassan, I didnt say you God teaches you to kill, I just ask because that’s what I heard from some fanatic Moslems, that they can kill, for example Moslems who change their religion, (it’s what I heard, but correct me if I’m wrong).
And also I hear several CRAZY Moslems made a very loud noise in the TV that he wants to join the jihad because he wants to kill the Israel people with his own hand to defend GOD????
What does that mean? I think those kind of Moslem just make a fool out of themselves and gives nothing but bad name and humiliation to other Moslems (especially the nice ones). So Hassan, which kind of Moslem are you? -
let’s just say I don’t want to kill anyone.
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Ok, well than at least now I know your’e not one of them Hassan.
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