12 Comments on “Transvestite Contest”

1. ucok bah says:

   December 7, 2006 at 11:58 am

   God really curses those who resemble their opposite sex–men resembling women and vice versa. The curse has been in existence since the time of Prophet Luth.

2. steve garner says:

   November 10, 2007 at 11:36 am

   It is great to see a country where something like this can take place. A place where only a handful of people show ther lack of tolerance for peoples differences. A lot of people in the U.S. think that all muslim countries and muslim people are intolerant, it is nice to see that this is not true.

3. Achmad Sudarsono says:

   November 10, 2007 at 3:38 pm

   Ucok Bah,

   Don’t you think the Universe’s Supreme Being has better things to do than to curse people on Planet Earth for having a bit of fun in a beauty contest which doesn’t hurt anyone else? Personally, I think she’d be more concerned with engineering the latest twist and turn in multi-dimensional time vectors or something like that.

   Hate isn’t productive, pal.

   The transvestites are above all, creative, and that’s what the Supreme Being’s all about. Aside from that, they tend to be funny, sweet, and sensitive. What the hell is wrong with you?

   Wanna talk about ugly, nasty, horrible ? Try war and poverty.

   Mr. Garner,

   Amen Bro. 🙂

4. iamisaid says:

   November 11, 2007 at 12:57 am

   Achmad said : “Hate isn’t productive, pal.”

   I say : Jumping catfish! Is this the same Achmad who calumnies about the white people; Australians in particular?

   * Hey pal, not that I am stalking you at IM. I just happened to check in at this column.

5. Ihaknt says:

   November 11, 2007 at 8:03 am

   😀 love you long time..

6. Achmad Sudarsono says:

   November 11, 2007 at 8:46 am

   I have a split personality. 🙂

7. Achmad Sudarsono says:

   November 11, 2007 at 2:52 pm

   P.S.

   Also, those waria, just want to dress up, look beautiful and enjoy their lives. Most of their clients are actually straight, or semi-straight guys, anyway. Privately, I’ve heard, a lot of the waria want to find a nice guy, settle down and get married. Aside from that, they make a beautiful contribution to the variety of life.

   They offer their creative gifts, and if society was civilized, they’d be given a proper place, not forced into shame and shadows. Not all of them make it to the prestigious locale of Taman Lawang. Most of them ply their trade under toll roads, taking all sorts of risks. They’re a marginalized, often destitute group, and then Ucok Bah, uses the codes of a faith to bull them more. Makes me mad, people.

   Hidup Waria. They’re an inspiration for us all.

8. iamisaid says:

   November 11, 2007 at 6:40 pm

   Achmad said : “I (he has) have a split personality.”

   I say : Bingo ! that goes for the transvestites too. Hmmm….that figures.

9. Achmad Sudarsono says:

   November 11, 2007 at 8:23 pm

   iamisaid:

   Bro, why knock the trannies? They certainly dont have a split personality. They know who they are.

   There are plenty of big targets in Indonesia. No need to pick on a group of people who just want to live their lives in peace. I’m not saying the trannies are angels or anything more than average human. I’m just saying they’re no less.

   Kapiche ?

10. iamisaid says:

    November 11, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Achmad said : “Bro, why knock the trannies? They certainly dont have a split personality. They know who they are.”

    I say : Achmad, now that’s what is called as throwing a curve ball.

    I have not said anything here that is neither good nor otherwise about transvestites. Hence, your statement that I do not “need to pick on a group of people who just want to live their lives in peace.” does not apply.

    And granted that you consider “trannies are not angels or anything more than average human. No less”, why then do you need to be defensive since these people are just what you think they are?

    So, clear out of the window goes your curve ball.

11. iamisaid says:

    November 12, 2007 at 12:14 am

    It behoves, mainly for the benefit of Achmad Sudarsono (who claims that transvestites “certainly don’t have a split personality. They know who they are”) that I am compelled to quote from an a few authoritative sources that refute otherwise.

    First and foremost, to state the definitions .

    Definition of Split personality

    Split personality: Multiple personality disorder, a neurosis in which the personality becomes dissociated into two or more distinct parts each of which becomes dominant and controls behavior from time to time to the exclusion of the other parts

    Reference: http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=11257

    Definition of Transvestite

    Transvestite: A person who dresses in the clothing of the opposite sex, i.e., a person who cross-dresses

    Reference: http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=5845

    Relevant source readings:

    Splitting of the Ego in Transvestism and Mask Wearing

    The concept of a split in the ego was introduced by Freud (1940a) to account for the coexistence of two contradictory attitudes in the ego, one affirming reality and the other denying it. Freud (1940b) did not confine this mechanism to any specific diagnostic category but regarded fetishism as a particularly favourable subject for studying it. He considered the threat of castration, evoked by the sight of the female genital, to be warded off by a split in the ego which permits the coexistence of awareness and disavowal (denial) of the absence of a female phallus. The fantasied female phallus is displaced onto some other body part or inanimate object””the fetish””which ensures sexual arousal.

    Reference: http://www.pep-web.org

    and another source :

    Definition and Description of Transvestism

    A transvestic male identifies primarily as a male who has and retains male gender-identity. Often the transvestite is married and the father of children. The transvestite seldom, voluntarily, confesses his need to crossdress to his spouse, usually because of the fear of non-acceptance and the resultant rejection, although some women not only accept crossdressing and the associated behavior but seek out males having those needs and traits and actively participate in the “game” – sometimes with each partner reversing roles, not only in social, but in sexual, situations.

    Some transvestites profess to be alternately or intermittently bi-gendered, although most of the time they feel and behave like a normal male. A transvestite is satisfied with being a male and generally enjoys the role. It is possible for a transvestite to adopt the female gender-role while retaining his male gender-identity, but that is a rare combination.

    Transvestites do not, by definition, want sex reassignment surgery, although a sizable proportion self-diagnose as transsexual when they initially burst forth from “the closet.” Thankfully, saner heads prevail and irreversible reassignment surgery does not occur (one of the logical reasons for the frustrating, to the true transsexual, waiting period and Real Life Test).

    Reference: http://www.geocities.com/KarenSpecial/

    Q.E.D (Quod Erat Demonstratum) to Achmad Sudarsono!

12. mr john says:

    February 12, 2008 at 10:38 am

    It may not have occurred to you iamisaid, but the body of knowledge on transexuals has advanced substantially since Freud (1940a)… Also, your “definition and description of transvestitism” is one point of view on the matter, it’s far from authoritative. If anything it supports the point of view that any sort of “split personality” is as a result of societal pressures rather than anything inherent in transvestitism.

    I think for you to claim you’ve proved anything about transvestitism is more than a little presumptuous…

    Q.E.D (Quite Egomaniacal, Dude)