Dorce Gamalama & Imam Samudera
Nov 11th, 2008, in News, by Patung
Transsexual television personality Dorce Gamalama pays her last respects to the executed Imam Samudera.
Dorce Gamalama, a “post-op” transsexual, and host of the Dorce Show, a celebrity talk show, was seen at the funeral of executed terrorist Imam Samudera/Samudra, at Serang, Banten on 9th November. okezone
Dorce Gamalama, loudly leading orphans in prayer for president Suharto in early 2008.
Imam Samudera, currently dead.
Dorce didn’t manage to get close to Samudra’s coffin among the throng of thousands, and it seemed she attempted to avoid journalists and news crews during her 30 minute visit to the kampung of Lopang Gede, but one reporter did get near her as she left and extracted the following quote banjarmasinpost
God willing, Imam Samudera died a martyr’s death.
Gratuitous opportunity to show Sandra Dewi taken – on Dorce Show, May 2008.
34 Comments on “Dorce Gamalama & Imam Samudera”
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Enigmatic says:
Seems to me that she’s using her stand on Samudra and co.
to attract higher ratings for her show! -
fullmoonflower says:
hehehe….
I’m agree with you, Enigma…. 😉
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hary says:
I will be watching her show for this week. Would love to see if she dares spout some rubbish on the show!!!
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jami says:
Did I miss something?
What did these guys do that is so worthy of anyone singing their praises?
In my crazy logic:
Someone who how dies shielding a child from a bomb’s shrapnel is a martyr.
Someone executed for murdering a few hundred innocent people in Bali, is not.Am I in some bizzaro parallel moral universe or something?
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To each their own.
If she wants to pay her respects to a convicted mass murderer, then so be it.
It only becomes an issue if people want to make it an issue. Gotta say it does not inspire me to watch her show. So, an bump in ratings will not be because I want to check out whether she utters a phrase along the lines of “God willing Samudera dies a martyr’s death”.
I do wonder how relevant her transsexualism is to her paying homage to a killer?
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sputjam says:
Heh! Heh! Looks like imam samudra may end up with 77 dorce gamalama types in the next life.
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My point being, the fact that she was born a man is irrelevant to whether she attends Samudera’s funeral, isn’t it?
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Ross says:
Why sit back and let a fanatic freako coin money through commercial tv?
No.1 Email her station- isn’t it TransTV – and tell them she ought to be fired.
No.2 Watch who advertises on the breaks during her show and email them, saying if they do so again, you will boycott their products.
There are several hundred peope who use IM and most of them seem to despise terrorists and their fans. We all have wider circles of friends and acquaintances. Let’s put our money where our mouths are!
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jaka says:
He’s dead. Period.
Just remember, we are in Indonesia, aren’t we? We are taught to respect the dead, even if he’s a gay mutilating his 7 times stabbed victims after f*cked their sore asses ’til bleeding. Indonesians are thanking God this amrozi show is over, and everybody has his own reaction. It is Dorce’s opinion, and we ain’t fool.
I do not get western values then, if saying such hope is meant as supporting atrocities. Who is dorce, anyway? She’s not so important politically.
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well, as Enigma said : it’s all about the rating of her show
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diego says:
Who is Dorce? (S)he’s just an ugly tranny. Period. I have nothing against tranny, I’m just stating that Dorce is ugly and tranny, hence ugly tranny.
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on a more serious note: I kind of agree with Ross. She needs to learn the consequence of her selfish act of showing “moral support” to (the family of) Imam Samudra; especially considering her viewers are of the “easily-susceptible” type. She should’ve known better. She could’ve done something better to contribute to the development of society who will unequivocally say “NO” to the violence / act of terrorism. Having Dorce fired / obliged to apologize publicly will show a quite important lesson for the mass: be responsible as a citizen. Be sane and responsible.
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raden says:
Dear chatters . look at this sites, all the topics are related to Islam, Wahabism, bombing, extrimism, terrorism or race tension issues.
Can we have other better topics than those mentioned above ? -
Dear chatters . look at this sites, all the topics are related to Islam, Wahabism, bombing, extrimism, terrorism or race tension issues. Can we have other better topics than those mentioned above ?
You mean, like Shanghaiist (another thematic site I check out regularly)? I don’t know, we can’s escape from the truth, wahabism is the current big issue in Indonesia. It’s uninteresting indeed, but as long as it stays in Indonesia, we wouldn’t be able to have any developments that would allow us to have interesting topics like in Shanghaiist.com.
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@ raden…
maybe you can ask Ko Patung to make a fun and relax room…@ Ko Patung
can you make it for us, please?
we need smiling and laughing someday…
it’s good for our health…
supaya kita panjang umur, Ko…
please…thank you 🙂
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Bas says:
Good ideas Ross ,
http://www.transtv.co.id/200706/contactus.asp
That’s probably useless but I just asked them to fire that crazy, ugly guy. Hope a lot of people will follow.
I ‘t have no TV so I don’t know who are his sponsors…
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Raden, shut your trap. Fullmoonflower, good idea but er not really sure how to go about it, because someone has to start the topics, and it probably won’t be me because I have no real idea about the fun relaxed stuff that you mention.
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okay Ko Patung…
maybe someday I’ll start to post a fun topic in Bahasa Indonesia version when I have time…. thank you 🙂
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Thanks to Bas and others who have started the campaign with me. I saw the show today and it was supported by ads from multinationals including Fanta, Nestle, Kraft and Johnsons.
I intend to circulate her/his /its misdeeds to the likeliest websites in, firstly Australia, then North America and the UK, urging folks to contact these companies head offices and ask why they are sponsoring a terrorist symathiser.
With 500 folks on my mailing list, and no doubt plenty more on the part of other IM posters, we can make an impact, or at least put It in the hotseat internationally. -
I am with you Ross. I emailed a bunch of the advertisers and sent an email to the station. As for being bored with the topic, “atrocities occur when good men do nothing”. Fanaticism of any kind should be exposed. A public figure lending any support legitimizes the actions of these men.
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djoko says:
I have actually noticed this whole kind of “god-willing, they died a martyr’s death” thing recently and have been wondering about it. Quite ironically, this is even used by some people I know, just after they’ve gone on about how what Amrozi and co did was wrong. Don’t get me wrong, there are some (and probably best represented by the crowds at the funerals) who are fully convinced that what the bombers did was a good thing, and that they did die as martyrs. For others however who, like Dorce, talk about “god willing they died as martyrs,” this seems to be a result of Islamic teachings themselves being able to bend ‘both ways’ so to speak.
In Islam some of its greatest strengths are also its greatest weaknesses in some regards. One such thing is the heavy emphasis on niyyah/niat (one’s intention in undertaking something). There is one hadis of the Prophet Muhammad which states that if someone performs an ijtihad (interpretation or understanding of religious texts, notice the ‘i’ and the ‘t’ there, different from ‘jihad’), if their intention in interpreting religious teachings is to submit to God, they automatically gain a pahala (kind of like a heavenly reward, sometimes I have the image of God having a scorecard up there for everyone which he ticks off, but thats probably a REALLY dodgy and simplistic way of putting it). If it turns out that they were wrong, then they still have the pahala from their niyyah. If however it turns out that their interpretation/ijtihad is right on that issue, then they get an additional pahala.
Now this is about the only way I can understand relatively average people, or people who are actually against what Amrozi and co did, sometimes coming out with the whole ‘god-willing they died as martyrs’ thing (once again this is excepting the people who seriously mean it as such). Islamic teachings have such a strong focus on intentions that regardless of what one has done, these intentions are taken into account by God. Of course this is not so bad in everyday terms, as it means Islam accepts that human beings are fallible, prone to mistakes, and as long as one had the right idea, you’ll still get a reward for trying. On the other hand it also means that there is an escape clause for the fanatic in some regards (once again depending on your interpretation of the texts).
I’ve also had people say, as a variation of the whole “god willing they died as martyrs,” “god willing their good deeds (in a general sense mind you, once again this is usually after they’ve gone on about them being terrorists) and intentions are accepted by God.” I think the two have a similar meaning here.
Now once again all of this is not to deny there are some out there who strongly believe the 3 are martyrs (once again, proof is in amongst some of the crowds at least), but I’m not sure if an average Indonesian, or even one with a reasonable degree of antipathy for the 3, comes out and says ‘god willing they are martyrs,’ this necessarily indicates support for terrorism.
Now, maybe Dorce fits into this category, maybe not. Any more info on her religious and political views in general which could back up the idea that she’s a terrorist supporter?
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Rambutan says:
I’m not sure if an average Indonesian, or even one with a reasonable degree of antipathy for the 3, comes out and says ‘god willing they are martyrs,’ this necessarily indicates support for terrorism.
Fully agree, djoko. But, most Indonesians wouldn’t go the funeral of jihadists in the first place. Dorce, attending the funeral and giving such a statement, seems to harbor some sympathies for Amrozi & Co.
Or maybe it’s like some friends said: Bencong gila…
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Quite so. It is hardly likely that she was just out for a stroll and happed upon the terr-fest.
I’d have thought ‘insh’Allah, he is now in neraka,’ would have been more acceptable comment, and I am pressing on with the emails to sponsors, Anlene and Sprite today, of her programme, until she expresses contrition for her disgraceful statement or gets the sack. The more we press, the better. It’s not often we can have a useful input. -
I tried to submit a comment to TransTV (through the page that Ross gave us), and I got the following error:
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Active Server Pages error ‘ASP 0126’
Include file not found
/200706/thanks.asp, line 46
The include file ‘/tendean/default/dompet_amal.asp’ was not found.
—I hope the input is already committed to their database.
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Actually, it wasn’t I who provided the Trans page, but it’s true they are hard to get through to. If you watch the end of theior various programmes, they usually give an email address.
I’ve already had feedback, Kraft want more info, so if the rest of you get into it, who knows….it’s a rare opportunity to confront the foes of freedom. -
Andy says:
Ross Says:
November 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Thanks to Bas and others who have started the campaign with me. I saw the show today and it was supported by ads from multinationals including Fanta, Nestle, Kraft and Johnsons.
I intend to circulate her/his /its misdeeds to the likeliest websites in, firstly Australia, then North America and the UK, urging folks to contact these companies head offices and ask why they are sponsoring a terrorist symathiser.
With 500 folks on my mailing list, and no doubt plenty more on the part of other IM posters, we can make an impact, or at least put It in the hotseat internationally.Mate, consider me part of the cause. You are a champion! I will do what I can to support this.
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The muslims religionist still don’t get it. Mohamed was against all form of paganism and idol worship. he was not the victor in arabia. he lost becuase the arabs cannot understand a word he was transmitting. The present religion of islam is the same pagan religion the arabs propagate during the time of mohamed. only the blind cannot see the stone worshipping ways of the arabs during the haj(coming soon on TV).
God and religion are two different things. neither jesus, nor Moses, nor mohamed preached any form of religion. The religion came only after their demise. Why would God wants us to worship Him when he has not wants. God gives, as He is the Sustainer. We cannot give anything back. -
Latest update- Trans appears to be playing hard to get, so I have contacted various Australian parliamentarians and commentators who may be interested. Please keep at Trans till they respond.
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She’s still there, supproted this morning by ads from Coca Cola and Tropicana Slim (customer@tropicanaslim.com, if you need to contact them), as well as Oley, that oil for ladies. Johnson’s Baby Powder still there too.
I can’t say I enjoy waiting for the ads, but today had to grimace when the ould bat started chanting ‘Obama.Obama..’ and telling us that he’s a hope for peace. That is not an uncommon sentiment but coming from somebody who praised a foul mass-murderer as a martyr, perhaps young Barack might be a tad embarrassed to receive plaudits from such a source.
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never ceases to amaze hey! I saw that Imam Samudera’s mother was kept company for ‘moral support’ during the evening of the execution by kindergarten kids! Amazing! …. I wonder what they told them they were there for?