Perseus on white girls not going for Asian guys, and differences between white women and Indonesian women.
White girls (e.g. Australian girls) have a reluctance to date/marry Asian men. It is quite common to see a white guy with an Asian girl but less common to see a white girl with an Asian guy.
Why?
According to a blog discussion smh at the Sydney Morning Herald there are various answers.
Caucasian men are seen as more masculine (in that they are bigger, more muscular and more aggressive).
Asian girls are seen as more feminine (more petite, submissive, compliant).
Asian men are smaller, slighter, shorter and a white girl wants her man to be bigger than she is not smaller. She wants to look petite next to her big boyfriend not like an elephant next to a teeny tiny guy.
Elsewhere I have seen it suggested that penis size is a factor. Asian men are said to be less well endowed than Caucasian men (who are in turn less well endowed than African men). I am told by a white guy who lives in Bali and who has a handphone filled with the numbers of countless Indonesian mistresses that Indonesian men are reluctant to give women oral pleasure.
So, for the brown man who seeks to woo the white woman, the deck is stacked against you. This is not to discourage, merely to heighten your glory should you triumph. 🙂 You may need to learn some new tricks. Cunning linguistics for starters, chaps…
There are sharp differences between Ms Bule and Ms Indo.
Ms Bule will not ask you for taxi money, for shopping, for help with her rent or for handphone credit. She may even be insulted if you try to buy her dinner. There is no need to fork our for medical bills for her sick relations – the welfare state provides. She may insist on "going dutch" which means each person pays their share of the restaurant bill. This is not always so. Ms Bule is generally defensive about men buying her stuff initially until you prove that you are not a dickhead. Ms Indo, I suspect, might be gravely insulted if you expect her to pick up the tab for her own Long Island Tea.
Ms Bule is likely to be more adventurous and demanding in bed than Ms Indo. Ms Indo thinks getting naked, giving you a rub between the legs and parting her own legs is enough. Ms Bule will expect cunnilingus, will give fellatio and will expect an orgasm of some kind. Hopping on, sorting yourself out and not pleasuring Ms Bule will lead to your being dumped in short order. Ms Bule will be up for sex on the sofa, in the bathroom and on the kitchen table as well as in bed. Ms Bule probably owns a vibrator. If you are no good in bed, Ms Bule may well dump you. Ms Bule is likely to want varied positions (cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, spoon etc). She may even be up for anal but this is a minority preference.
Ms Bule will not tolerate you bossing her around in chauvinistic fashion. Though you are expected to read her mind and be decisive. (I.e magically decide to do what she wants to do.) This is tricky.
If you think Ms Bule is going to stay and home and cook and have your babies, you may be in for a shock. Ms Bule may have your babies and go back to work and put your babies in childcare. She may take a few years off and work part time until the youngest child is in primary school. She is unlikely to give up work completely to devote herself to family.
Ms Bule is unlikely to marry you unless you have lived together for a while first.
Ms Bule will indicate if marriage is on the cards by introducing you to her
friends and her family. However, it is quite normal for Ms Bule to have a boyfriend that never meets her parents. I have rarely introduced my girlfriends to my parents. Not meeting the parents is generally an indication that the relationship is not serious.
Most divorces in Australia are initiated by women.
There is no concept of the woman "following the man" in Australian law. Women have equal rights to men with regard to inheritance, property, voting etc. There is nothing like the differential treatment of men and women with respect to inheritance as found in Islamic Law. It is quite common for Ms Bule to earn more than Mr Bule.
On holiday, Ms Bule may fall in lust/love with a sultry eyed, handsome brown fellow with a smooth tongue and exotic turns of phrase.
My darling, my darling, you are so beautiful, I love you, I love you
seems to be the standard opening gambit of the Kuta Cowboy. White men never open like this. Maybe we should? Ms Bule will be happy to pay for dinner and drinks. However, when the holiday is over, she may not persist in staying in touch. She may decide her Kuta Cowboy was some holiday fun and leave it at that.
Ms Bule is more likely to engage in casual sex away from home. The double standard applies. The man who has many women is a stud; the woman who has many men is a slut. On holiday, lust can be indulged without paying a price with reputation. Tropical weather often inflames Ms Bule’s passions. For Caucasian girls – summer is breeding time to give birth in spring 9 months later. Humidity often makes them horny. It also often makes them exhausted!
All women look for "social proof". Some evidence that you are solvent and can protect and provide. A degree of assertiveness and strength blended with kindness and consideration. Given the differences in income between Indonesia and Australia, this means an Indonesian guy has a big money mountain to climb here. However, love can conquer all.
It you catch her eye with your looks and your clothes, you are quarter way there. If you can break the ice, be funny and entertaining and can make a girl relaxed and laugh, you are halfway there. If you can listen to what she says and keep the conversation interesting and entertaining. If you believe in yourself and believe that women should want you then you are three quarters there. If you are firm but kind, strong but considerate, know when to isolate and know when to kiss then you will probably get over the line. If you can show her an aspect of Indonesia, she is not likely to experience in a tourist brochure, that is a good opening. Heck, if you can recite poetry and play a ukelele, you might be in like Flynn as white men have forgotten these seductive arts.
All the above statements are generalizations. You will find exceptions to all of them. There are some white girls who want to be kept as mistresses who will ask you for taxi money, rent or study assistance and/or a regular allowance. Some white girls like to be bossed around. Some want to wear the pants in the relationship and have a subservient man who will remove garbage when ordered. Some white women will simply not be interested in anything other other than a serious relationship view marriage with a man approved of by their parents. A few are still virgins on their wedding night.
When it comes to men and women, generalizations are always less interesting than the particular facts. All women are different. No two are the same. This is what makes them a source of endless fascination!
Yet more reasons why Farah is the one for me 😀
Otherweise, Kinch,
you’ll have more freedoms with white ladies (or not? 🙂 )
…well…freedom comes with all its consequence’s….
Lairedion,
a bon vivant remain silent … 🙂
White girls (e.g. Australian girls) have a reluctance to date/marry Asian men. It is quite common to see a white guy with an Asian girl but less common to see a white girl with an Asian guy.
What a premature verdict. Whether or not that is true, I bet Asian men are also reluctant to date or marry white girls, for reasons that are pretty obvious.
“Why would you buy a Chevy if you can get a Honda?”
Andrew,
you don’t understand Perseus’ intention, do you?
“What a premature verdict. Whether or not that is true, I bet Asian men are also reluctant to date or marry white girls, for reasons that are pretty obvious.”
Why so serious?
Let us say: white Ms. in Bali date willingly asian boys to enjoy exotic meat,
they are reluctant to marry one because they love their freedom too much.
Asian men are reluctant to date white girls? Don’t you ever heard the questions asked about “free sex”, asked with mouth waters? 🙂
Better we say: Asian men date willingly white girls for one reason that is very obvious. 🙂
Perseus,
maybe you should write somewhere in your posting with thick red letters: this is a satire?
🙂
This one more difference beetwen Indonesian and whites:
Whites (bule): read a satire then drink their beer and laugh loudly.
Indonesian: read a satire then sharpen their swords and drink arak. 🙂 ( sorry, I recognize myself here … 🙂 🙂 )
Lairedion: please do ask your father to share the secret of his success.
ive been successful too in ‘catching mr. bule’ but at the end of the day, i ended up marrying fellow indonesians. yes, plural.
my obvious reason is that, culture barrier is minimal. and there are indonesian men out there who are cool and every bit as open minded as their bule counterparts. that being said, there are also many bules out there who are as big bigots as some indonesians..
good write up perseus.. very entertaining, satirical, but in some parts, very true..
If you’ve ever been to Bukit Lawang (and I’m sure other places in Indonesia) there’s dozens of Indo men who snare passing tourist girls (sluttier than the locals for sure) on a weekly basis – as soon as one goes home they go out with the next one.
And no doubt they are taking taxi money from the bule girls…. Quite a few getting married to them too, some even having another wife….
Friends,
Achmad could give any woman – any woman – Bule, white, red, blue, and especially brown, the sexual experience of a lifetime.
(Same goes for men, but they have to pay).
The answer, friends, are secret Pencak Silat breathing techniques, that allow a man to stay…aroused, for weeks, even months on end.
Merdeka !
Another subtle difference between Ms Bule and Ms Indonesia is that the latter has retained the ability to pretend that Mr Husband is the boss while in fact everyone knows that she is really in charge. Anyone who is married to an Indonesian woman will know damn well that the idea of them being meek submissive wee mice is nonsense. In almost all Indonesian households there is only one boss; the wife, she controls the finances, makes all domestic decisions, rears the children and lays down the law while at the same time preening her husband’s ego enough to allow him to pretend he is really in charge – far from it.
This of course suits most bule men right down to the ground, we get the best of both worlds, we can have the nice little wifey who caters to our every whim while at the same time being able to loaf around all day letting her do all the work, great.
When Bule women rediscover this ancient feminine art that actually used to be commonplace men might find them attractive again.
Oh but you big nasty oafish male chauvinist pig BB, how cane you say such things? After decades of feminist indoctrination too! I can say these things because I live in Asia now and don’t have to fear the harridans in the thought police.
British and North American car and ship builders once believed that they were the greatest in the world, as a result of this arrogance they got more and more selfish and came to believe that the rest of us owed them a living whilst producing rubbish in return.
The Asian producers were sneered at as making junk, but look at the world today. Similarly western women find themselves in the same position; they’ve priced themselves out of the market and now see more and more men marrying Asian women. Right now the western women are still in sneering mode, they accuse the Asian women of being “mail order brides” (yes, I have heard that), it won’t be too long before reality dawns on them. There are literally billions of Asian women out there and men have a choice.
I love it!
Well said, Berlian.
AchmadSudarsono Says:
The answer, friends, are secret Pencak Silat breathing techniques, that allow a man to stay…aroused, for weeks, even months on end.
Horny bastard. No offence. =)
i actually agree with berlian biru there. asian women are the real bosses of the household. we are the necks that supports the head of the household. we tell them where to look.
Ms Bule is likely to be more adventurous and demanding in bed than Ms Indo. Ms Indo thinks getting naked, giving you a rub between the legs and parting her own legs is enough. Ms Bule will expect cunnilingus, will give fellatio and will expect an orgasm of some kind. Hopping on, sorting yourself out and not pleasuring Ms Bule will lead to your being dumped in short order. Ms Bule will be up for sex on the sofa, in the bathroom and on the kitchen table as well as in bed. Ms Bule probably owns a vibrator. If you are no good in bed, Ms Bule may well dump you. Ms Bule is likely to want varied positions (cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, spoon etc). She may even be up for anal but this is a minority preference.
Yes obviously they’re generalisations, but perseus I think you’ve exaggerated it to the extent that bule girls are hypersexuals or nymphomaniacs.
Perseus,
I offer nothing more than the promise of classical civilization — as would a man who calls himself, well, Perseus.
Poetry doesn’t always pay the bills, baby.
Va Va Voom !
If you can show her an aspect of Indonesia, she is not likely to experience in a tourist brochure, that is a good opening. Heck, if you can recite poetry and play a ukelele, you might be in like Flynn as white men have forgotten these seductive arts.
Besides reciting poetry and playing a ukulele Kuta Cowboys not only give tantric advice to enhance and refine the basic in-and-out as it is commonly practiced in the ‘bush’, sometimes they are even asked to perform black magic to transform Ms Bule’s pie-floater breasts and jelly-pudding thighs into a legong dancer’s silhouette. And hair-plaiting à la Bo Derek from yore is always expected to come as an extra service.
It’s a tough job indeed but somebody has to do it. But by spending her money on Kuta Cowboys Ms Bule has found at last a suitable purpose for the alimony or divorce settlement Mr Bule has to pay.
Dewa,
Indeed, and some of those fine young men taught me some of the most useful tricks of the trade.
Va Va Voom !
A little Achmad lovin’ is indeed black magic as I’m sure it is from you, Dewa.
Keep the lovin’a’flowin…
The answer, friends, are secret Pencak Silat breathing techniques, that allow a man to stay…aroused, for weeks, even months on end.
Friend could you please share your little secret, after Mak Erot passed way, what happen friend, it is back to original size or getting bigger
Cuk,
Sobatku Yth,
As one of my Australian lovers/clients, Sherryanne Dingleberry from Townsville once said, “it’s not the size of the waves, but the motion of the ocean.”
That said, it’s true, business has taken a big (or rather small), hit since the passing of Mak Erot.
Pencak Silat only greases, oils, and prolongs the life of current equipment. If you know what I mean, my dear Sobat.
Was there ever any doubt that Assmad was a Pillow Chewing Rent Boy (For the Amercian Readers also known as a wide receiver).. In fact I am fairly sure that Assmad was the subject of that famous story concerning Freddie Mercury and Phillipine Rent Boy..
Never the less I do think its right to call him a homesexual although he has slept with loads (pun intended) of guys who were.
“”Pillow Chewing Rent Boy…”
My, my, Oigal, aren’t you a champion of sexual diversity. As they say in the British army: you’re only gay if you take it !
I do have to wonder, though, what went on in Australia in the first 20 years of British occupation when the gender ratio was 6 men to 1 woman (and before too many sheep). Rum, sodomy, & the lash, perhaps ?
On a side note since there’s so much crap around here…
Heck, if you can recite poetry and play a ukelele, you might be in like Flynn as white men have forgotten these seductive arts.
I have played the drumset, marimba and even the gamelan, don’t recite poetry but read books like The Great Gatsby. Where do I size up to Achmad? Or anyone else for the matter.
Oigall-
how would you know so much about this Aussie penchant for pegging?
Is it a cultural legacy of being founded on rum, sodomy and the lash?
I think the best argument against a white woman is a trip to any beach in Bali. Sorry- Baaaaaaahhhh-loi- in Aussie speak-grunt.
More Aussie whale there than during Warnambool’s halcyon days and more blubber there than an Innuit barbecue.
And they do moo. Is it a mating call?
Enigmatic,
For sizing up, Google the late Mak Erot. Fortunately, she has heirs to continue her work. Va Va Voom !
Purba,
On pegging, see Wikipedia entry on famous contest by sex columnist Dan Savage:
nice…
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