7 Comments on “Mainstream”

1. Arema says:

   October 29, 2007 at 5:15 pm

   In Kaligung Rogojampi, Banyuwangi, like most of East Java a stronghold of the Nahdlatul Ulama, dozens of NU people vandalised a musholla belonging to Muhammadiyah. The excitable NU folks complain that the musholla is too close to their own mosque, and that previously everyone had attended Friday prayers together, and therefore they felt offended that the Muhammadiyah members no longer wished to pray with them.

   wow… I’m stunned when I hear this. Are Indonesian muslims have become so bloodthirsty that they now start to hit at each other, even among the so-called mainstreams, because of such a negligible reason?

   Where is all the ulamas when they are needed? Why they are quiet when their folks shouting Allahuakbar at one time, and doing this at the same time? What makes it worse is… they did it with some kind of false pride and self-justification.

   I think mosques should set aside one area and put several computers serving Counter-Strike. Whoever in a bloodlust, just go in and do the killing until he’s satisfied.

   Oh well, why should I be stunned…? With the current reputation of Islam, such thing is well within the “expected” range.

   I’m just worried about the future of Indonesia. God, please save our country!

2. Raden says:

   October 29, 2007 at 6:31 pm

   Arema, this is an old topic we have predicted last year, the real cure to those living in Indon but do not wish to be a muslim, just leave the country. It is hopeless to live in a country with 90% muslims with disoriented future indeed. I am sad to say this but it is true and very true.

3. Peter says:

   October 30, 2007 at 12:46 am

   Politics and religion should not mix. Stuff like this is the reason why.

4. dewaratugedeanom says:

   October 30, 2007 at 3:53 pm

   Arema said

   I’m just worried about the future of Indonesia. God, please save our country!

   No need to worry, Arema. Don’t listen to Raden because salvation is on its way. The ‘Reconquista’ has begun and Majapahit will rule again. The Empire will stretch from Banda Aceh to Merauke with Singaraja as its policy making and financial center which will even dwarf Singapore whose name shall be changed into Singapoor. Muslims will be allowed to stay provided they accept to become dhimmis and pay Jizya tax in submission, according to Al Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe “¦ until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.”
   Merdeka!

5. naga says:

   November 1, 2007 at 9:06 pm

   Are you serious?

   its the ulema’s who CREATE these problems…

6. Tuan says:

   November 2, 2007 at 12:47 am

   Politics and religion should not mix. Stuff like this is the reason why.

   Religion and politics are strange bedfellows. They’ve always gone togethor hand in hand, especially in the West. Bush won the last election because of his stand on religion and devoted Americans voted him in. The English sings “God Save the Queen”. Different governments start their day with a prayer.

   ~Tuan – Indonesian-American Muslim

7. Lambert says:

   November 6, 2007 at 11:01 am

   Geez,

   “[Religion and politics have] always gone togethor hand in hand, especially in the West.”

   Not too sure about this these days. Historically this is true and it is still true for the United States, yes, but America is an anomaly in the Western world. In my country, non-believers outnumber believers in a 70-30 split, and you will find similar proportions in Britain, Australia and much of Western Europe. God may “save the Queen”, but in the United Kingdom he does little else.