Pribumi Business

Nov 2nd, 2007, in Business & Economy, by

Kalla on “native” entrepreneurs as against Chinese.

Vice president Jusuf Kalla said to a meeting of ethnic Bugis businessmen in Makassar, South Sulawesi, on 27th October that the numbers of “native” Indonesian (pribumi) businessmen had to rise but that in order to bring this about the government would not actively discriminate against ethnic Chinese businessmen, who are traditionally dominant.

I’ve got lots of Chinese business friends and partners, and I don’t discriminate against them, but if things just stay the way they are the country is not balanced.

The situation was not improving, with the rate of increase among Chinese businessmen outpacing that for native businessmen, and the end result of this would be social instability, he said.

Jusuf Kalla

The government had to continue to encourage entrepreneurship, but without discriminating against anyone, he said.

The government was a partner of businessmen, because it took 30% of their profits in taxation, he said, and so it had an interest in seeing business thrive. antara Kalla said that shortly the waiting time for business operating licenses would be reduced from 150 days to 25. l6

He also advised those present to guard against the danger of foreign interests taking too large a share in national industries. If foreigners owned too much, then economic growth would become stagnant, he said. tempo


48 Comments on “Pribumi Business”

  1. Cukurungan says:

    Exactly. My body Chinese-Indonesian (sorry I can’t choose to have a different body) but my heart is 100% Indonesian. I am sad to be regarded as not-so-Indonesian by the “earlier inhabitants” although most probably we both came from the same land, China.

    Do not too exaggerate last month I visited my parent in “Gunung Kawi” everything is intact like before….Mosque and Kelentheng are still stand together while brown men, yellow men, brown women and yellow women are mingle and doing business and ritual together on their own style as usual”¦and if I am not mistaken one of our ancestor buried there also married with “Chinese Lady”

    You should get the Indonesian government to shut off all foreign investments rather than to say others using Indonesia as their playground. This is the thinking of a pea brain.

    Desperate response from a disparate man

    You can not deny a facts that illegal logging, crude oil smuggling, corruption money, pasir laut smuggling are always being cleaned in Singapore but I also agree that it is not totally their fault because they can not do that if Brown Man in our government is smart.
    Our brown man in Goverment is only “Pencuri Kelas Kampung” what they can do just steal “Uang Rakyat Sendiri” they has no capability to launch “Transnational Corruption” or take the money from other country.

    Oh. One more thing don’t forget that you admitted that you stole from your company because you followed what those foreigners did, remember what you said! and that disqualify you from commenting things about corruption or anything tht is haram.

    Many thank Gentleman that you admitted “Cukurungan Wonderful” I amazed that you never forget …dot & koma..what I said….yes once upon time, I stole the money from the company but this is not “APBN” or “Uang Rakyat”…If I did not take those money, it will go to overseas anyway. I just stole the money from the hijacker (according fraud theory “a corruptor has to make their own justification to justify “their corrupt action”)

    And remember I am qualified and has rights to say anything because I am only the one in this world holder a title of “Dukun Engineer”.

    WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE MALAYSIAN MALAY POLITICIANS ARE EVEN MORE CORRUPT.

    Again thank you for the crystal clear evidence to what I said “Pribumi corruption is dangerous but Yellow Cukong Betrayal is even worst”¦as you said Malay Politicians is more ..more corrupt than Indo but the Malay economic was performing better than us because their money is not going anywhere and the Malay corrupted money was still driving Malay Economy, in other hand our economy was cripple so quickly because the money has gone to Singapore and Fukian”¦and thing get even worst because those money has been used by them to further tap-in into the artery line of our economy.

  2. Dragonwall says:

    This is the obssession of self proclaimed dukun engineer of banana land saying

    Yellow Cukong Betrayal

    and that your ancestors were once married to a Chinese girl?

    And also I suppose the Islamic Religion that says that if you stole, whether from who it or where it is, it does not matter, You had committed a sin and that is haram?

    Munafik.

  3. Sputjam says:

    I cannot understand why a malaysian gambling giant company “genting” has to be dragged into this discussion. The founder of genting was born in china. he started the gambling company in his fifties and proposed to the then PM of Malaysia Tun abdul razak, his ideas.
    His board meetings are conducted in malay, out of respect, although the majority are non-malay. When star cruise was formed (listed on hong kong stock exchange) he sailed on one of his cruise liners back to his “kampung’ in fujian province in china. genting employs thousands at their resort, bumi and non-bumi alike. most are from the rural areas in pahang state.
    Genting, like many well managed malaysian companies, have expanded overseas, including UK, and australia, singapore and they are still trying to get on board in macau. All these was done with minimum government assistance. Unfortunately for genting, their workers at the gambling table are pinched by competitors in macau and soon singapore, due to higher pay offered, and the ability for non-bumi malaysian to speak in three languages and two chinese (sometimes three) dialects. Non-bumi malaysian have become global by accident, while their bumi counterpart recently complained that learning science and mathematics in english should be reversed. in other words, the malays in malaysia have become pampered and cannot even comprehend a single language, never mind two. the worst part is, due to NEP, the government is simply lowering the level of education for the malays in order for them to obtain higher education.
    My personal opinion is that NEP is a failure because it made malays dependent on the government. Upon finishing their studies, they get jobs in govenrment departments or listed covenrment companies such a Tenaga or telkom. And these companies are bloated with these scholars as the government have no other place to dump them. So a job that can be done in days by two people, takes months by several committees.
    the ruling party knows that the malays are dependent on their assistance and the malays are “addicted” to the assistance. Hence power abuse and corrupt practices are ignored as long as the malays get their little assistance in the form of underperforming schools and scholarships and higher education for their children.

    Unfortunately, there is too much malays getting questionable degrees from universities and are not able to get a job. Since they are taught in the malay language, they are more or less useless for the task in the private sector which uses either english or mandarin.

    In this case, the malays are now dragging the economy of malaysia down, whilst their non-malay counterpart finds jobs easily in the global market place. due to NEP, foreign investors are wary of sharing 30% of their compnay to bumiputras and invest elsewhere. same can be said of local non-bumi companies. hence the KLSE is a shadow of its glory years and is having a tough time attracting interests as even locals find it easier listing in London, hong kong or singapore.

    And yet, many malays do not understand just how economy works. Some are asking for more share in a shringking pie (more than 30%).

    For indonesia, best to minimise regulation and anyone (local or foreigner) who wants to invest, will have their interest protected by the government. forget about affirmative action. It encourages mediocrity. A higher standard should be set for the bumis to achieve in education. instead of spending money in building universities (too many worldwide), indonesia should instead initiate schooling at a younger age, say 4 years old, and by sixteen, the graduate of this education system should be a person full of confidence with multiple language ability and can be marketable worldwide. spending money on higher education is worthless in more than 95% of jobs. Best concentrate in improving the majority’s ability then the remaining 5%. former CEO of HKSB started work as a clerk and learned through experience. during his term, HKSB expanded worlwide, probably by using common sense and and not “new managemtn terminologies’ that is rife in todays modern board meetings filled with graduates world over. (due to these new terminologies, risky mortgages in USA are called by some fancy names which caught investors by their billions and third world countries are rephrased as “emerging markets”)

    nothing can beat good fundamentals and common sense. indonesia should follow this path.

  4. iamisaid says:

    Clap! clap! clap!

    Well said Sputjam.

  5. Pakmantri says:

    Sputjam said:

    ………………. instead of spending money in building universities (too many worldwide), Indonesia should instead initiate schooling at a younger age, say 4 years old, and by sixteen, the graduate of this education system should be a person full of confidence with multiple language ability and can be marketable worldwide. spending money on higher education is worthless in more than 95% of jobs. Best concentrate in improving the majority’s ability then the remaining 5% ………………..

    Agreed, we should build more trade schools, polytechnics and apprenticeship programs for our youths. Shorter program but when they graduated they are ready to work and be productive. If they wanted a degree, they can get it after they work in continuing education classes at the universities, part-time, full-time or online.
    It’s been proven work well; look at Germany, how fast they recover and become a powerhouse after world war 2.

  6. Dragonwall says:

    What you have said seems quite reasonable but

    lowering the level of education for the malays in order for them to obtain higher education

    Is like to make a question simpler so that they understand and pass the exam will attain higher education level?

    Not that dragging Genting into the picture but, a comparison in corruption matter. Do they exist?
    1. Malaysia is an Islamic State, in majority votes, that had leashed the Sharia Law.
    2. So does that make gambling, though legally, it’s haram right!
    3. TAR had in one way or another proposed and someone who might have brought the
    subject up and they agreed to that. It’s good, the country prosper. On condition
    right! Building a resort, hotels, roads, amenities, environmental facilities etc..
    4. Who are the people involves beside share holders?

    So the topic discussed was all about Corruption, Nepotism, Cronysm and how bad that was comparing to Indonesia.

  7. Arema says:

    *standing ovation*

    marvelously written post, Sputjam!

    For indonesia, best to minimise regulation and anyone (local or foreigner) who wants to invest, will have their interest protected by the government. forget about affirmative action. It encourages mediocrity. A higher standard should be set for the bumis to achieve in education. instead of spending money in building universities (too many worldwide), indonesia should instead initiate schooling at a younger age, say 4 years old, and by sixteen, the graduate of this education system should be a person full of confidence with multiple language ability and can be marketable worldwide. spending money on higher education is worthless in more than 95% of jobs. Best concentrate in improving the majority’s ability then the remaining 5%. former CEO of HKSB started work as a clerk and learned through experience. during his term, HKSB expanded worlwide, probably by using common sense and and not “new managemtn terminologies’ that is rife in todays modern board meetings filled with graduates world over. (due to these new terminologies, risky mortgages in USA are called by some fancy names which caught investors by their billions and third world countries are rephrased as “emerging markets”)

    nothing can beat good fundamentals and common sense. indonesia should follow this path.

    I agree on this.

    1) Mastery of multiple languages is one of those highly sought after skills today, and I believe it will remain to be like that for generations to come.
    2) Strengthening the fundamentals is much more important than higher education, I find this especially true on myself. I’m solving most engineering issues in my company with just high school knowledge and common sense. Without a strong fundamentals, it is difficult to learn higher level knowledge effectively anyway, and in the end students are just memorizing for exams, and the knowledge last for 3 days.
    3) I am feeling the same way with you about the “new terminologies”. I asked my friend who work in a bank, and the simple term “curve gradient” can have several different terms, depends on the usage. I find it absurd, and get the impression that they are just making their own life difficult.

  8. Cukurungan says:

    Sputjam said:

    For indonesia, best to minimise regulation and anyone (local or foreigner) who wants to invest, will have their interest protected by the government.

    Cukurungan:

    No single country in this world’s could transform their self to become a modern and Industrial Country by relying on the foreign investment

    Korea, Taiwan and Japan and even US have been able to transform to become a fully developed country because of their Government heavy protection at that time upon theirs babies industry against the free Market competition by adopting High Tariff import and some affirmative regulations to boost their Indigenous Enterprenour

    And now those advanced country is hiding behind “free trade agreement ” or ODA were asking to the under developed countries to open our market so they can dump product of their industry while retain heavily subsidized farming to protect their farmers with some ridiculous reason.

    Sputjam said:

    A higher standard should be set for the bumis to achieve in education. instead of spending money in building universities (too many worldwide), indonesia should instead initiate schooling at a younger age, say 4 years old, and by sixteen, the graduate of this education system should be a person full of confidence with multiple language ability and can be marketable .

    Cukurungan :

    Philipine has done so but why nothing a big phenomenon development or progress going in there.

  9. iamisaid says:

    Regarding the Sputjam – Cungkurang discourse above, here is my 2 cent or for whatever it is worth. LOL !

    Whilst the Internet and in particular blogsites has its boon for users, let us agree that it is not possible to expound with the same ease and clarity as when compared to sitting around a discussion table.

    Of course, opinions can be met with equally opposite promptings.

    The ability to transcend personal thinking and be able to reason the logic that is presented within is more gainful rather than splitting hairs.

  10. Sputjam says:

    for a country to develop, two things matter :-

    a) sound government policy
    b) human capital capability

    Saudi is a rich country, but it cannot be considered as a developed one.
    North Korea is poor, but its government policy sucks. Its human resource is something else. If it has sound government, it will only be a matter of time before it catches up with the rest of the world.

    there are many rich developed nations with little or no resources. this includes japan, south korea, taiwan, and many europeans states such as france, spain, denmark, netherlands and italy.

    germany and britain were blessed with abundant coal which fueled the industrial revolution. without ita human capiyal capability, it would have become like saudi arabia. but due to the inventiveness and creativity and hardworking population, they were able to become industrial mights.

    similarly, there are numerous coal fields in indoneisa (kalimantan), but this are mainly for export to countries with huge human resource assets. The countries that buy coal from indonesia uses it to fuel their power plants, which then powers their industrial machinery.

    For countries like singapore, Foreign direct investments are used as a short cut to propel it to developed status. If there is a computer chip making plant owned by a multinaltional in a country, there are numerous avenues for “trickling down effect’ to local businesses to prosper from sub-contract work. On the malaysian KLSE alone, there are sveral companies listed based solely on jobs obtained from FDi’s such as intel and AMD. similarly in singapore.

    china cannot be considered as poor countries because of the potential of their human resources. And coupled with the present sound policies of the govenrment, they are on the verge of becoming the largest economy in the world.

    initially, britain, US , japan and south korea had a protected economy. Their major manufacturers were protected by tariff barriers which hinders trade. But they learnt that opening of barriers increases economic activity, and increasing economic activity increases wealth.

    so these developed countries are always trying to increase buisnesses, because it pays. britain does not care if they have no local car manufacturer anymore, but due to their sound policies, multinationals such as toyota, nissan, BMW and ford have taken over these places.
    nor does britain care if a foreigner were to take over their industrial companies or even their football clubs. some football clubs are played entirely by foreigners. The important thing is that these clubs remain succesful, and succesful cubs bring in the money and enhances economic activity down the line. economic activity creates oppotunities for the population to become rich. Rich countries does not depend on industrial might alone, they encouraged tourism (No.1 industry in france with 60 million visitors per year and probably britain), sports (EPL every saturday night in south east asia while our local players are paid peanuts due to lousy policies of sports administrators), leisure like golf clubs and yachting, movies, hobbies and anything eslse that will encourage the money to spread from one hand to the other. economy cannot grow if population does not spend. The more movement of money in a country, the more chances and opportunities for the masses to make money.

    taking indonesia as an example, there are 200 million people languishing unproductively in the country. there are probably numerous with talents such as in sports, or mathemetics or dance/arts/music, but these talents will not be found due to unsound administration. I think when it come to industriousness and enthusiasm for work, indonesia and indeed the malay community everywhere has to acknowledge that this ability is lacking. Otherwise, indonesia would have been at par with the people of japan. Maybe it is due to the climate, or genetics. But if our human resource capability is hopeless, dont blame the government if the natural resources runs out. Like the song by Michael jackson, “the man in the mirror”, look yourself in the mirror and take the first step to improve our work ethics, by maybe doing and extra approval for licenses per day, or making an extra products per day, or maybe by walking a littel bit faster. Try making others happy while imrpoving our productivity. sometimes these things help.

  11. Cukurungan says:

    dragonwall said:

    And also I suppose the Islamic Religion that says that if you stole, whether from who it or where it is, it does not matter, You had committed a sin and that is haram?
    Munafik.

    me :

    However my Chinese dude told to me that there’s no haram money because money is always money….in after life the money is still required to bribe the hell officers to ease the hell torture

  12. wongcilik says:

    wong cilik prihatin, so long as we as the pribumi keep on dwarfting other races’ capabilities & value while Indonesia were looked down by other countries in reality, it proves Indonesia will never prosper, lets get rid of our stupid ideology which prove unproductive 5 times sholat (is too much in my opinion) and incompatible with current world set up, I really mean it, how can we work properly if must pray every 4 hours ?

  13. Dragonwall says:

    However my Chinese dude told to me that there’s no haram money because money is always money”¦.in after life the money is still required to bribe the hell officers to ease the hell torture.

    Perhaps your Chinese friends convert to Islam, no wonder. Money is however important in present and after life with a difference. This also demonstrate that your thinking were such that if someone tells you that it is right to rob Soeharto, or SBY you also agree to that. Does that make sense to you?

    Each one must have their own interlect. I do suppose most of those in DPR, MPR, Ministers and Pejabats conceive the same perception. Sooner or later Indonesia will become hopeless, I guess.

  14. Dylan says:

    The people now lacks the vision of Pancasila, especially after the reformation. We are a nation of “Bhineka tunggal Ika”, unity and diversity. Be it Chinese, native Indonesians, Indians, Arabs, Westerns, Japanese, and etc, what we need is generally “entrepreneurs”. We are modern enough not to differentiate people by their skin but by their morale, identity, and faith. I am a 17 year old boy and this is the view of my friends and I, so you “grown ups” go look in the mirror and start re-evaluating.

  15. K says:

    I believe he is simply a racist person. Why should he bring this up in the first place. Afterall, who is getting the “benefit” of all the business that the Chinese bring to Indonesia. AND more importantly, all of the chinese that he mentioned are INDONESIAN PASSPORT HOLDER. The underlying message of his statement is that there’s a different between “pribumi” and “chinese” in Indonesia, where as all of the chinese are Indonesian citizen as well, who I strongly believe proud to call Indonesia their country.

    As the vice president, this is one huge mistake that he made. Take a look at cases in develop countries, if something similar happening there, the person would immediately apologize on national TV and newspaper.

    I strongly believe it’s simply not acceptable, given his position.

  16. concerned says:

    Some people like kalla simply choose to live in Stone Age and be a racist. (sigh)

  17. Purba Negoro says:

    Kalla is a Patriot merely telling the Truth the Chinese Tukang Cukong and Tukang Tipu hate to have published.

    Chinese bring marginal benefit to Indonesia. They occpy the middleman economy, not major business.
    All Chinese woned companies on thew JSX are marginally solvent.
    There are no bluechip Chiense companies on th JXSX- all are State Corporations.

    Gudang Garam, Lippo and Sampurna are all excellent cases of operational insolvency and cooked accounting.
    Not to mention collapsed banks and white-collar criminals fleeing with millions.
    The bulk of all FDirect Foreign Investment is Japan, then US, Holland, Australia and on.
    Singapore, China and Hong Kong are at the lower end of the list.

    Wong Clik is completely wrong and exposes himself as not truly a Wong Cilik.

    Solat is not 5 times per day- it is merely the obligation to pray.
    The choice to pray 5 times per day or not at all is up to the individual- Magrib at 18:00 is the important prayer to most Muslims- which exists outside office hours.

    Jumat Magrib- the most important prayer day and time is also outside work hours.
    Furthermore, it is discretion of employer to grant prayer times of no more than 15 minutes as dictated by Law.

    If Chinese do not like Indonesia- they are more than welcome to leave, otherwise they should put up and shut up

  18. concerned says:

    indonesia is bhinneka tunggal ika.. not islam nation
    hey “put up and shut up” have a rhyme! you should make it into rap song
    “Chinese bring marginal benefit to Indonesia” :
    so, chinese money = halal! chinese people = haram!
    wkwkwkwk

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