Djoko Santoso
Nov 13th, 2007, in News, by PatungGeneral Djoko Santoso warns students about foreign agents.
Army Chief of Staff General Djoko Santoso said on 10th November that there were many foreign secret service agents and agents provocateur in Indonesia who attempted to recruit, in particular, university students.
Djoko Santoso.
Speaking to a group of students in Magelang, Central Java, he warned:
There are a lot of foreign agents who’ll try to get you in with promises of good jobs and high salaries, so that you’ll let them train you as their agent.
General Santoso hoped that students would not take the skills they had learned to other countries, but, in a patriotic spirit, instead put them to use in Indonesia so the country could develop.
You’re Indonesian students, you should apply what you have learnt to better Indonesia, not for other countries, like Singapore.
He hoped further for a new sense of militant nationalism among the youth of today so that globalization could be faced squarely and the country could compete. antara
25 Comments on “Djoko Santoso”
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Teng says:
sense of militant nationalism
And that’s a good thing?
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Arema says:
Well, I believe the intention in his message is good, but it’s just the way he deliver it may cause many of us raise an eyebrow…
I agree with what he said, Indonesians (especially skilled ones) should go back and contribute to Indonesia in whichever way they can. General Djoko, if you want to see that, please SHOT DOWN every corruptors that you see. When things (economy especially) gets better, surely Indonesians would love to stay in this beloved country. You know that it is good jobs and high salaries are the reason why a lot of talented Indonesians move overseas. The question you should ask is… “why Indonesia can’t offer the same thing?” You got the answer, general? Good, now go and start shooting! 🙂
And “militant” is not a proper word to describe what he want to say, I think. Maybe he want to say “semangat patriotisme yang membara” or something like that.
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iamisaid says:
Let’s term it “brain-drain” that General Djoko is addressing.
Echoing what Arema said, what is the cause(s) for this brain drain and has the Indonesian powers-that-be done anything effective to make Indonesians wish only to return to their homeland and to contribute?
I know several highly foreign qualified Indonesian Professors at a few Universities in Indonesia. They returned to Indonesia and till this very day they are regretting that they did.
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naga says:
lol… more words of wisdom from another idiot General
what hope do the youth of Indonesia have, when they being lead by myopic, xenophobic dolts like this guy?
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wongcilik says:
When the civil servants will receive salary increase then inflation rate will be higher. Second, in Malaysia coming soon will announce fuels price hikes and possible rationing the usage of fuels & curtail the subsidies to the wealthies although it is unclear operationally – Malaysian protest & conduct demo in KL. Coming soon, with continuing crude price approx $100/barrel – how long our gov’t will hang on the subsidy level ? fuels hike in Indonesia ? can imagine double impacts which will exponentially drive up our inflationary rate soon.
Thinking about patriotism ? how vulnerable is our life in country, why we are so weak & always subject to the global hike-up ? why not address this issue first before whacking on the issue of patriotism?
However life is so nice being as the military hi rank officers in Indonesia, where else in the world that security can be bought with Rp as long as the price tag you can agree ? -
Dragonwall says:
lol”¦ more words of wisdom from another idiot General
Let’s forget what background this guy has. I had asked before this have you been in the military and I it went unanswered.
In general term are you referring that Indonesian does not have any person with brains and that you are the only smart person. Considering your background.
If Indonesia was not intruded with insurgents and unwanted elements, would Indonesia be in this state. When provocation comes from every aspect, it could have been the military that cause what it is today in Indonesia. But without foreign elements training the Islamic radicals, I am sure Indonesia could have been better.
And you are saying thatwhat hope do the youth of Indonesia have
Know nothing about the military in Indonesia, please. I mean please go suck an egg.
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Bas says:
Agent for who, for what? To spy on chickens or homeless children in the streets? Foreign agencies don’t give a S— about Indonesian students. They can get information straight from your staff Mister Djoko (and probably from you too even if you may not aware of it).
Brain drain? Give them better salaries and change the mentalities first if you want gifted students to stay and work and this feodal country.
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Foreign agencies don’t give a S”” about Indonesian students
Yeah I think you are very right about that.
The military is creating a “foreign” enemy again.. it’s the oldest trick in the book. Have the people look at the evil outsiders and forget the crap that is happening internal.
It’s “Ganyang Malayasia” all over again ( a little less radical though 😉 )
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Robert says:
Why is he pointing to Singapore and Malaysia (again)? What is so important for these countries, that they want to recruit new agents? Some new innovative technologies or groundbreaking scientific developments? I don’t think so. It is the old blame-game all over again.
If the General is so concerned about foreign influences and agents provocateurs why doesn’t he focus more on the Middle-East? It would be interesting to find out how many people are on the payroll of Saudi-Arabian organisations.When General Santoso says that he hopes that students would not take the skills they had learned to other countries, but put them to use in Indonesia so the country could develop., well, that makes sense. But blaming other countries for a brain-drain is stupid, start changing salaries and working conditions if you want to keep highly educated people in Indonesia.
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Let’s forget what background this guy has. I had asked before this have you been in the military and I it went unanswered.
No, let’s NOT forget what background he has, it is precisely why he is a paranoid xenophobe; and to answer your ridiculous question; yes i have, and i have dealt with the TNI at senior levels too; i know what i am talking about and you don’t.
You prove it every time you post your ridiculously uninformed opinion, but keep going, i need a good luagh……..
If Indonesia was not intruded with insurgents and unwanted elements, would Indonesia be in this state. When provocation comes from every aspect, it could have been the military that cause what it is today in Indonesia. But without foreign elements training the Islamic radicals, I am sure Indonesia could have been better.
You claim to be all knowing about Indonesia and then you make another idiotic statement like the one above; THE TNI TRAINED MOST ISLAMIC RADICALS IN INDONESIA YOU COMPLETE IDIOT; THIS IS A WELL KNOWN FACT.
Research the conflict in Poso, Maluku and ET and Papua; the TNI regularly trains, equips and indoctrinates militias.
How could you not know this?
There is minimal foreign influence in Indonesia, the only constant influence is the Ulemas accepting Arab money from overseas ‘charities’ to push their myopic agendas.
You truly know zero about Indonesia, please make an informed comment.
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dewaratugedeanom says:
Army Chief of Staff General Djoko Santoso said on 10th November that there were many foreign secret service agents and agents provocateur in Indonesia who attempted to recruit, in particular, university students.
Here’s a list of possible foreign agents provocateur
– CIA
– MOSSAD
– MI-6
– KGB (what’s left)
– GESTAPO (what’s left)
– Exxon/Mobil
– Freeport
– Red Cross and all western NGO’s
– Hell’s Angels”¦Beware!
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i have dealt with the TNI at senior levels too
Meaning playing golf, womanizing if not otherwise you must be one of the CIA creep.
THE TNI TRAINED MOST ISLAMIC RADICALS IN INDONESIA THIS IS A WELL KNOWN FACT.
Can anyone back that up? Militia.. what militia, fighting for independence.
Ah.. so you must be one of those idiot huding behind the trees to see their training. As far as the fact is, it is known that most radicals or insurgents were being trained in foreign countries like Libya, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Noordin Top is one, Abu Dujana is another and the lists..
And this is back to you YOU COMPLETE IDIOT;
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It is well know that a several radicals were trained in Afghanistan.
Kopassus trained the Laskar Jihad (Maluku) and Kompak (Central Sulawesi) for anti-Christian ‘operations’ in 1999-2002.
Kopassus trained the East Timor militias in 1999 (several of them confessed at the recent UN trial held in Jakarta).
Kopassus trained nationalist militias in Papua and Aceh (currently active) to supress ‘dissent’ in the regions.
It’s not surprising you don’t know this…..
And no, i won’t be charging you for your education.
And this is back to you YOU COMPLETE IDIOT;
lol….now back to you…..
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Ah…Now you are saying you that Prabawo trains the Laskar Jihad….
Is that a fact? Proof It.. Because you were also repeating
It’s not surprising you don’t know this”¦..
The TNI were having internal struggle for power is of no surprise.. And with that you mean they were all armed to the toe to fight the Christians in those places you claim?
Conjecture..
Or are you indirectly implying that you have been with the CIA..
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Well, I think he gained this info from his intelligent agent. You know… diplomatic codes looks sweet by the naked eye, but in fact neighbor countries have lot of interests.
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Local agent has been constantly recruiting Indonesian students as a spy in the campuses. To spy on campus activities, during Suharto times especially. I think it’s still continuing.
So, the score is 1-1, isn’t it? So what is it that he worries about? BAKIN cannot pay in dollars?
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TheWrathOfGrapes says:
Robert Says:
November 14th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Why is he pointing to Singapore and Malaysia (again)? What is so important for these countries, that they want to recruit new agents? Some new innovative technologies or groundbreaking scientific developments?The foreign agents are definitely trying to steal superior new innovative technologies from Indonesia. Achmad Sudarsono will vouch for the earth-shattering UFO technologies that are waiting to be exploited. Come to think of it, if they are parked at Borobodur, they can’t be that new technologies, can they?
😉
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Sector11 says:
It’s not matter about brain drain I think. Thousands professionals & students can work for business economic matters for other country, no problem. But just one spy meaning hypocrite, licker, ego maniac, burglar, thief, traitor of the country.
I suggest to general to propose new law enforcement with harsh and decisive punishment for those who deliberately caught the involvement. That’s fine to sound this thing, but action has to be made, see comments above, they challenge you for good salary with taste of blood and sweat of our people.
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panera says:
I think this dude need to start to face reality in indonesia. There is not many company who will pay enough money to their college graduatee just to pay back their student loan. Beside some of indonesian don’t want foreign company in this country because they think they are communists. And this company who usually will pay better salary. Beside I don’t blame this college graduated people leave the country and seek better job for better money. My very best friend went to study in US went to prestigious private university study engineering back to Indonesia hoping get good job and he hasn’t found one yet, so I don’t know what the heck this service guy talking about. I think, he just tryng to make people think that he is intelligent,or just simply tryng to impress the citizens.
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He this DS is facing some serious accusation of selundup mobil mewah. No wonder Soros wants to invest in Aceh in Palm Oil Plantations. TNI should start sending troops to Aceh and see what is going on since it has gone autonomy.
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Djoko Tingkir says:
TNI has a long way to go from being a proffesional institution.
It is suprising that this remark came from the highest ranking official from the armed forces.
Students and Military have always being at odds in Indonesia; and this dates back in time. The Military cannot enforce how our young generation think, as they are the future of Indonesia.
Most developed nations in this world have their military cadres educated in Universities; however I doubt that any of these generals have actually sat a complete course in University.
It is sad indeed that the future of Indonesia are in the hands of individual having tunnel vision and it is not suprising that the younger generation are seeking alternatives…Merdeka…
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Purba Negoro says:
Djoko Santoso echoes the thoughts of all patriotic Indonesians. Our country has a very long documnted history of CIA-Mi6-Foriegn Office interference.
All Indonesian patriots should be gladdened to note that the Indonesian Military is now working closely with Putin’s superlative FSB so that the military and State of our nation will forever be intertwined as per Pahlawan Nasution’s brilliant Dwifunksi ideology and as we see the theory validated in the fastest growing economy in Europe- Russia.According to the hero Winston Churchill, “the best argument against deomcracy is a five minute conversation withthe avergae voter…”
Pro American Imperialist sympathizers and agitators including the moral masturbators of Holland, Britain and Australia can shove their pluto-kleptocracy masked as democracy in their pipes and smoke it.
Santoso Raya! Russia Komrad Merdeka! Merdeka! Merdeka!
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Agent says:
Instead, will you do the same??
Or just big mouth & let corruption eat all, like NATO(No Action – Talk Only)……
Use your brain, Mr. Intelligent! -
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All Indonesian patriots should be gladdened to note that the Indonesian Military is now working closely with Putin’s superlative FSB so that the military and State of our nation will forever be intertwined
and making Indonesia a Communist country again..horay per Pahlawan Nasution horay..Deep Shit…
No wonder always professing propaganda with a motive..Now I C….
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