Indonesian Women
Oct 3rd, 2007, in News, by PatungLaws that discriminate against women.
The recent 39th meeting of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) in New York recommended Indonesia revoke all laws that are viewed as biased against women, said the Minister for Women’s Empowerment, Meutia Hatta, on 26th September.
Although Indonesia ratified the Convention 23 years ago Meutia says:
There are currently 29 laws which are gender-biased and we have suggested the relevant ministries amend them. I have heard that they are still evaluating them.
She cited the 1974 marriage law, which contains articles that permit men to commit polygamy, but not women, in the case of a wife’s infertility or inability to perform her “wifely duties”, and which also allows girls of 16 and 17 to marry, even though in other statutes such girls are considered still to be children.
Meutia said the Women’s Empowerment ministry had asked the Religious Affairs ministry to review any discriminative laws within its authority but had not yet received a response.
Meutia Farida Hatta.
She went on to say that at the meeting in New York concerns were also raised about the effect of the regional autonomy policy which had created discriminative regulations against women, such as the 2005 by-law in Tangerang, Banten, which stipulates that any woman seen alone in public after 19.00 could be considered a prostitute and arrested, as well as the various regional laws, such as this one in Malang, requiring women to obtain permission from their husbands to work at night.
Meuthia said the meeting also criticized the Indonesian government for its failure to fully integrate CEDAW convention compliance into Indonesian laws. The minister said this was because the details of the CEDAW convention were not yet known by government bodies.
CEDAW also asked the government to issue a firm policy against female circumcision.
Indonesia had not received an all negative report card however:
They noted some improvements like the issuance of the 1999 Law on Human Rights, the amendment to the 1945 Constitution, the 2004 Law on the Elimination of Domestic Violence, the 2006 Law on Witness’s and Victim’s Protection and the 2007 Law on Human Trafficking.
176 Comments on “Indonesian Women”
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Achmad Sudarsono says:
Janma,
It’s not just dungarees you don’t like: it’s grammar. Unless the dungaree owns something it’s dungarees for plural. I see we’ve still a way to go in educating womenfolk.
On mono, Janma, Janma. We’re not worried about adultery. The answer is quite simple. Anyone who violates the Koran should be punished accordingly. They’ve made steps in this direction in Aceh.
Sylvester: read the book, dear boy.
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sm4lange says:
Mdm. Meutia Hatta, the Indonesian Minister of Women Empowerment, calls on the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women in Indonesia but has she acted on what she calls for. From what I have seen, there is much discrimination against Indonesian women married to foreign spouses, where by they are not allowed to sponsor their husbands as Permanent Residents, further more, under the law, WNI women having foreign spouses are not allowed to own properties. What has she done to help her gender to gain their rightful place in Indonesia as citizens. Why bring this topic up in New York when she could have brought this issue up in the Cabinet meetings with President SBY. Her speech shows that she isn’t competent enough and she should submit her resignation.
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Janma says:
I stand corrected Master Ono…. thank you for that. I know you stand for the edification of my kind…. so grateful. still don’t like dungarees though. or overalls.
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By Ediefication, if you mean Good Muslim women becoming like Edie from Desperate Houswives, no I don’t agree.
On the subject of dungarees, all is clear. I see that you are sneakily avoiding the question of the link between hairy armpits and feminism.
The fact remains: we men need to blow off steam and polygamy is a heaven-sent way, literally, for us to do this. Why do you want to take this away? Why do you want to trap us, watching the same posterior, year after year, get bigger and bigger, when we could be out enjoying ourselves? Friend, it is natural for man to sew his wild oats. It is natural for women to obey.
I thank you, Friend.
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Well, I’ve never seen desperate housewives, though I can understand why housewives get desperate, given that they have to hear the same old whining complaining hairy necked, impotent old greying men complain day in day out for years on end.
Thank you for clearing me on the dungaree issue, it’s a relief.
As for men watching the same posterior year after year, i bet they aren’t exactly a basket of roses either by that time, pot bellied, short, and rarely well endowed, their ego’s are writing cheques that their bodies can’t cash. And may I humbly note that you can ask all three of my husbands about my posterior, not a single one of them will close their mouth long enough to phrase a complaint. I’m a grandmother and I have to say, it’s awe inspiring! Hubba Hubba!
Maybe women are just as much to blame for polygamy? they don’t value themselves enough.Oh yeah, and about my armpits, shaved or unshaved, my opinion never changes with the condition of my armpits, I still think most men are morons. The only opinion my armpits have on their own is about the weather.
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Ade Wanto says:
dewaratugedeanom Says:
Whose god? Which god?
Bill Morrison, John Lennon, Freddy Mercury, John Mayall, Jon Anderson, Frank Zappa, Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, Eric Clapton, Peter Gabriel, Stanley Jordan,
The Doors, The Beatles, Queen, Vangelis, Deep Purple, Genesis, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Metallica, The Dream Theater, Dire Straits,
Elvis Presley, Harry Bellafonte, Frank Sinatra, Andy William,
Sean Penn, Robert De Niro, Denzel Washington, Charlie Chaplin,
Madonna, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Drew Barrymore, Avril Lavigne, Lauryn Hill,
The Three Tenors, The Three Stooges.Do you think the names I mention above do not have people worship them? They are the gods and the goddesses for many people in this modern life. In ancient Romans, Greeks, and other nations, people have their own gods and goddess too. For me, I do not think I will worship one of them. You were have one of the gods or the goddess that you worship in your daily life, don’t you? Which one? The Three Stooges? Who is He? Or She?
Madonna “the Material Girl” Ciccione – one of the modern goddess – has established herself as Maria – Mother of Jesus – and spoke to the world, “I do not need a man to be my husband. I just need them to seed me.” What Madonna did was support by million women to demand rights establishing Non Marital Relationship. If a man can seeds in every women, woman must has equal right to having child without knowing their biological father, as they thought. According to them, marriage institution is a kind of modern prostitution legalize by State and Religion. In that term marital institution is discrimination for woman.
It is not about the feminist movement. It is about protecting women basic right from lusty moslem who are using koran verses for their own sexual desire, says Sylvester.
Do you think the intention to forbidden polygamy is not expressing one of the feminist movement?
Do you think permitting non marital relationship is not one of big agenda of the feminist movement?
Do you think legalize prostitution, abortion, and other similar issues are not the feminist movement?
And, do you think if Indonesians reject to establish law on non marital relationship, abortion, prostitution are to mean discriminate women?
Also, do you think its a crime if a man to protect his woman from disgracing in non marital relationship, abortion, prostitution?Ha ha funny, tell this to your fellow radicals that want to enforce sharia together with the polygamy. Radical moslem want to change UU perkawinan 1974, Sylvester says.
Do you think is only about issue on polygamy will be changed in Marital Laws in Indonesia? No, it won’t be and never happen. The main issue to up grading Marital Laws in Indonesia is give wider protection to Indonesian Women including abusing in human relations, not only in domestic abusing but in public such as in work environtment.
Do you think its about sharia? Whoops. Thats I wonder why every body just ask about polygamy. What is their (who ask polygamy) true intention? To disgrace Muhammad?
And, do you think Hillary Clinton will ask to Bush to send troops to Indonesia if Indonesians reject to admit such laws (forbid polygamy, non marital relationship, prostitution, abortion)?
Ade wanto statement obviously shows his hate over all American, or even all western people, says Sylvester.
My question still remains, do you think you’d have better knowledge about Americans and their society than me? And, in which part of my statement obviously shows hate Americans over? Show us!
And, do you think Muhammad commit polygamy to have fun? Like you do. To make orgy wild sex like gods and goddes in Romans and Greek? To do swinger like many modern life stylers nowadays? Oh. Come on. Better, I advise, you go hurry to library and dig it out.
Have you got my messages, morons,
ooops, maurice, where is he?It is useless to read a lot of books if the heart and mind are not in peace. No good comment can be expected from such guy.
Who is who have heart and mind is not peace? Do you mean someone who just said, “merely Muhammad compromising with lusty arab men who can’t control themselves, but at least trying to provide some guidelines and restraints.” Please dong ah, speechless dull.
hello mr clinton, hello mr wolfowitz
how are you? said who
monica, honey………..
(ccccome? said he
ummmm said she)
you’re divine!said he
(you are Mine said she)from: may i feel said he – a poem by E.E. Cummings
And, for women and women lover, please read these:
oh this man
what a meal he made of me
how he chewed and gobbled and sucked
in the end he spat me all outyou commanded me to sing of my redemption
oh my friend, how
you were mother for me, and how
I could let myself lean on you
comfortable as an old cloth
familiar as enamed saucepans
I was a child again, pyjama’ed
in winceyette, my hair plaited, and youlistened, you soothed me like cake and milk
you listened to me for three days, and I poured
it out, I flowed all over you like wine, like oil
you touched the place where it hurt
at night, we slept together in my big bed
your shoulder eased me towards dreamswhen we met, I tell you
it was a birthday party, a funeral
it was body communion
between women, a Visitation
it was two old she goats butting
and nuzzling each other in the smelly foldMagnificat – a poem by Michele Roberts
And, for openminders, these:
In a bus from Magelang to Salatiga
(full music, full karaoke, full video
full graffiti inside
too fully loaded)Me next to Romo Santo
(dangdut’s music out loud
singer in tv, belly dancing
throw boring into red eyes:
naked wives. where?)After silent moment, then
exchange
“Do you want too?”
“What is it?”
“A meal, a pork'”
“No thank you'”
“It is delicious. Sure.”
“I know.”(then bus goes slowly)
“Send greet to your wife'”
“No, I don’t have any””(bus stopped, hold not to jump)
Don’t have any
that healthy very delicious meal
that a man can have
in this lusty life. No compare.
(finally jump out)
– at home:
where is my belly dancer?my belly dancer – a poem by Avian Dewanto
So, are we still asking about woman discrimination? Or what? To humiliate somebody else. To hate someone else? Let you do if you ask for it.
Like this one:
Anyone who violates the Koran should be punished accordingly. They’ve made steps in this direction in Aceh.Show me a law someone should be punished after violate The Holy Quran? Any law. And, what is violate means? What is Holy Quran?
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Janma says, Muhammad, I’m sorry to say, IS NOT GOD!!!
Better I quote these for you:
Muhammad is the father of no man among you. He is the Apostle of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets. Surely Allah has knowledge of all things.
(Quran 33:40)We have sent you forth to all mankind, so that you may give them good news and forewarn them. But most them have no knowledge. They ask, “When will the promise be fulfilled, if what you maybe true? Say, “Your day is already appointed. Not for one hour can you hold it back, nor can you hurry it on.”
(Quran 33:28)And, the guidance from Allah to believers and the instructions from Allah to Muhammad:
Believers, if you marry believing women and divorce them before she marriage is consummated, you are not required to observe a waiting period. Provide with for them and release them honorably.
Prophet, We have made lawful for you the wives to whom you have granted dowties and their slave-girls whom Allah has given you as booty, the daughters of your parents and maternal uncles and of your paternal and maternal aunts who fled with you; and any believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet and whom the Prophet wishes to take in marriage this privilege is yours alone, being granted to no other believer.
We well know the duties We have imposed on the faithful concerning their wives and slave-girls. [We grant you this privilege] so that none may blame you. Allah is over forgiving and merciful.
(Quran 34 :24-26)May Allah bless you.
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Ade Wanto, if you think people worship pop stars like they do God, then I’m sorry to say you really don’t understand western society at all.
you also have no idea what the feminist movement is…. so before you go calling people morons, maybe you should go “look it up”…. oh but I forgot… Looking things up will not give you more than a surface understanding of what women really want, of what feminisim really is and what womens rights really are.
so it’s ok. keep your stone age convictions. you have no desire for understanding so there is no use in trying to help you understand. -
Janma say: Plus, who are you calling heartdead????!!!! the reason we don’t support polygamy is because of empathy, which hardly means our hearts are dead!
You are heartdead because:
Janma say: Also I think that I am best qualified to know what is best for me, not god, if there even is one that gives a sh*t, I’m sure he has larger fish to fry. Bit far fetched to say we are arguing with Allah.
Janma say: …merely Muhammad compromising with lusty arab men who can’t control themselves, but at least trying to provide some guidelines and restraints.
Again, it is your own call. Human being has self determination. You can obey or disobey Allah. None can enforce you even Allah to follow or not to follow Muhammad The Prophet.
Surely. Islam is only a way of life -how we conduct as human being- which has been introduced by Muhammad freshly delivered by Allah. No less nor more. We, human being, only implement it. We do or we don’t do implement Islam in our daily life, again, no enforcing.
However, if someday Habib Riziq, or someone like him, threat you to do like Arabian do, challenge him, “Who are you? Enforce me to be Arabian!” Allah sent forth Muhammad to all mankind, not only to Arabian. And, in this diversity world human being has their own way to expressing their own cultures. Said who to be moslems are mean to be Arabian! Say it loudly. And, show me verse that moslems must be Arabian before Allah receive them!
And, if someone ask you to defend Allah, to burn people who burn Holy Quran out, to kill people who disgracing Muhammad, better you don’t hear them. Allah do not need anyone to defend. Also, The Prophet himself no need anybody to defend after him. Better, you ask them, to whom you defeat? Allah? The Prophet Muhammad? Or, their personal account?
After Holy Quran has been completed hand over to peoples, the task of The Prophet Muhammad has done. All guidance for human being is now in Quran and Hadits (the real one). The only thing that human being must do is preserve the life itself, the earth, the sky and everything in it. To be meaningful to it.
Better, I quote for you:
There are some who declare, “We believe in Allah and the Last Day (when human will gather at Mashar Land),” yet they are no true believers. They seek to deceive Allah and those who believe in Allah: but they deceive none save themselves, though they may not perceive it. There is a sickness in their hearts which Allah has aggravated: they shall be sternly punished for the lies they tell.
When they are told, “You shall not do evil in the land, they reply, “Surely we are doing only what is good.” But it is they who are the evil-doers, though they may not perceive it. And when they are told, ” Believe as others believe,” they reply, “Are we to believe as fools believe? It is they who are fools, if they but knew it!
When they meet the faithful, they declare, ” We, too, are believers.” But when alone with their devils they say to them, “We follow none but you: we were only mocking.” Allah will mock them and keep them long in sin, ever straying from the right path.
Such are those that barter guidance for error: they profit nothing, nor are they on the right path. They are like one who kindled a fire, but as soon as it lit up all around him Allah put it out and left him in darkness: they do not see. Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will never return to the right path.
(Quran 2:8-18)May be, you will sound these:
A nasty surprise in a sandwich,
A drawing-pin caught in your sock,
The limpest of shakes from a hand which
You’d thought would be firm as a rock.A serious mistake in a nightie,
A grave disappointment all round
Is all that you’ll get from th’Almighty,
Is all that you’ll get underground.Oh he said: “If you lay off the crumpet
I’ll see you alright in the end.
Just hang on until the last trumpet,
Have faith in me, chum – I’m your friend.”But if you remind him, he’ll tell you:
“I’m sorry, I must have been pissed –
Though your name rings a sort of a bell. You
Should have guessed that I do not exist.“I didn’t exist at Creation,
I didn’t exist at the Flood,
And I won’t be around for Salvation
To sort our the sleep from the cud –“Or whatever tha phrase is. The fact is
In soteriological terms
I’m a crude existential malpractice
And you are a diet of worms.“You’re a nasty surprise in a sandwich.
You’re a drawing-pin caught in my sock.
You’re the limpest of shakes from a hand which
I’d have thought would be firm as a rock,“You’re a serious mistake in a nightie,
You’re a grave disappointment all round –
That’s all that you are,” says th’Almighty,
“And that’s all that you’ll be underground.”God – a poem by James Fenton
Or, better you hear these song from Eric Clapton:
Before You Accuse Me
Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself
Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself
You say I’ve been spending my money on other women
You’ve been taking money from someone elseI called your mama ’bout three or four nights ago
I called your mama ’bout three or four nights ago
Well your mother said “Son”
“Don’t call my daughter no more”Come back home baby, try my love one more time
Come back home baby, try my love one more time
If I don’t go on and quit you
I’m gonna lose my mindWhere are you deafheads?
He claims, “No good comment can be expected from such guy.”
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Janma say: if you think people worship pop stars like they do God, then I’m sorry to say you really don’t understand western society at all.
Have you ever been a grouppies? Mebbe just have heard one. What did they do to whom s/he worship? Almost everything. Not only virginity.
Some of the rock star, even in Indonesia, not only in the part of western world, have people who worship them. Some one who willing give anything to them. Do you think that phenomenon is not exist? These icons are not only rock star, for sure, their fan treat like GOD.
Janma say: so it’s ok. keep your stone age convictions. you have no desire for understanding so there is no use in trying to help you understand.
Thank you.
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Janma say: Looking things up will not give you more than a surface understanding of what women really want, of what feminisim really is and what womens rights really are.
I am a man not a woman. For sure, until I die, I will not better understanding about a creature named WOMAN.
Tell me about what is WOMAN?
Tell me what do WOMEN want?
Tell me what is FEMINISM?
And, tell me what are WOMEN RIGHTS?Because I don’t know, who will be asked for?
Allah, I think, the best party to whom we can ask for it.
But, where do we meet Allah?
Do you have the number?
So, we can send Short Message first?
Do you have Allah’s address?
Maybe at Gunung Agung.
Oh come on. To meet Allah at that place.
Of course, you can buy Al Quran there.
Then you can find the face of Allah.
Meet The Prophet? Its the same way,
you will meet Allah.Janma say: so before you go calling people morons. …
From deepest of my heart, I ask much apologize from you.Thank you.
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Sylvester says:
Janma,
This guy is even worse than any radicals we ever meet. Do not waste your time. -
Teng says:
Man can do, woman can’t do. It is not a matter of discrimination.
I would like to nominate this as “quote of the month”
This actually made me laugh really hard. It’s like saying:
White people can do, black people can’t do. It is not a matter of discrimination
Indonesian can do, Chinese can’t do. It is not a matter of discrimination
Brown-eyed people can do, Blue-eyed people can’t do. It is not a matter of discrimination.
I would like to express my thanks to mr Ade Wanto, you made me smile while reading your blind and utter stupid crap. Comments like that show what you truely are… backwards and naive
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Andrew says:
The reason behind Ade Wanto’s dissertation-like posts may be simple. He’s probably just using his religion as a cover for his own interest. He wants to retain the so-called priviledge to legally marry four wives.
The quote should go like: “If the Arabs can do it, so can we. It is not a matter of discrimination.”
LOL.
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whats up with the koran interspersed with eric clapton quotes?
you like your lyrics hey? original stuff….. I learnt so much from that.
plus… worshipping a rock star as teens do, or poets and eric clapton as you do…. doesn’t mean you’d do anything for them does it? doens’t mean it’s a spiritual kind of worship like people reserve for God…. but then, what am I doing? arguing with someone like you…. waste of my time …
It was fun while it lasted…. I’m bored now. Plus I need to go worship my fab four deities….. -
Janma,
I take my hat off to you. The following quote is awesome !
As for men watching the same posterior year after year, i bet they aren’t exactly a basket of roses either by that time, pot bellied, short, and rarely well endowed, their ego’s are writing cheques that their bodies can’t cash. And may I humbly note that you can ask all three of my husbands about my posterior, not a single one of them will close their mouth long enough to phrase a complaint. I’m a grandmother and I have to say, it’s awe inspiring! Hubba Hubba!
Maybe women are just as much to blame for polygamy? they don’t value themselves enough. -
P.S. I meant very apt and funny. I say let Ade Wanto read that, imagine, and weep !
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Dimp says:
To Ade Wanto, Achmad Sudarsono and others who support men having four wives,
If God intend for men to have four wives, He/She would have created men with 4 penises.
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Ha ha, Dimp. You’re right!
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Dimp, Sylvester,
Or he just creates men with a penis four times as long as the usual – that’s me – and four times long what both of yours put together.
Yeah Baby !
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Hi Achmad,
That’s good on you, I’m glad to know that an adult can still amuse themselves by imagination.
Delusion rocks!!
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Ihaknt says:
sm4lange Says
Mdm. Meutia Hatta, the Indonesian Minister of Women Empowerment, calls on the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women in Indonesia but has she acted on what she calls for. From what I have seen, there is much discrimination against Indonesian women married to foreign spouses, where by they are not allowed to sponsor their husbands as Permanent Residents, further more, under the law, WNI women having foreign spouses are not allowed to own properties. What has she done to help her gender to gain their rightful place in Indonesia as citizens. Why bring this topic up in New York when she could have brought this issue up in the Cabinet meetings with President SBY. Her speech shows that she isn’t competent enough and she should submit her resignation.
Hence I moved to where my husband comes from! At least women are treated as equal! Why would you want to live in Indonesia anyway? Dusty, macet, panas, orang-orang munafik, ikut campur, FPI. ARRGGGHHH!!!
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Better a Dimp than a wimp. Better a moderate than a konglomerat. Better read Patung than ter-katung-katung.
Friend, Janma is a legend; “their egos writing cheques their bodies can’t cash!” he he he. She’s doing well.
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well, your 40 inch penis is a case in point mr ono.
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Hey Janma,
Are you saying that both Sylvester’s and my penis combined can only measuered up to 10 inches?
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I know, a bit presumptuous really…. but five inches isn’t to be snuffed at I guess… you know… regular. But just imagine… if yours is say; 7 inches that only leaves 3 inches for slyvester….. maybe I should re-calculate?
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It’s only 40 inches at full-mast. Remember folks, showers don’t have to be growers and vice versa. That’s what we need to clarify in this important discussion. Are you talking standing to duty or at ease ?
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Unless you are a horse, you know what we are talking about. duh.
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Janma say : well, your 40 inch penis is a case in point mr ono.
Janma say : whats up with the koran interspersed with eric clapton quotes?
Janma say : I’m sorry to say you really don’t understand western society at all.
Janma say: worshipping a rock star as teens do, or poets and eric clapton as you do”¦. doesn’t mean you’d do anything for them does it? doens’t mean it’s a spiritual kind of worship like people reserve for God
adrew say : He’s probably just using his religion as a cover for his own interest. He wants to retain the so-called priviledge to legally marry four wives.
sylvester say : obviously shows his hate over all american, or even all western people. Nothing good from the mind filled with hatred, poor guys.where is maurice?
hi gals. who do you looking for?
where is maureen?
hi gurls. how come?
oh, my belly dancercccccome said me
ummmm said sheWhoops, who are you? Do we talk about Woman Discrimination or what?
Me? Hate over all American, or even all western people. Where do you go to schools?Did you go to, one of these:
MIT, Harvard, Yale, Standford, Oxford, Cambrigde,
Sorbonne, Leiden, Monash
Or, what did you go?Do you know what is it :
GOD HAS MOVED TO 43 AVENUE OF PEACE.
RING TWICE(From Andrei Voznesensky, “American Buttons”)
Knock. Knock
You knock down.
UuuuuuuurrrrrghDo you think you have better understanding about American people? Do you think you have well knowledge about western people, society, and culture rather than me? Oh. Come on blindfoolers.
Who are you? Indonesians? Asians? Africans? Arabians? Europeans? Americans? Polynesians? Wot? Oh, I forgot, Australians -which one of Australians: They whom their ancestors came from Ingland. Or, the Aborigins.
Better you swallows these – if you still have throats:
What is your shampoo?
What is your gums?
What is your snacks?
What is your clothes?
What is your gadgets?
What is your movie?
What is your wives?
Is it come from your neighbor’s tv?
Like Abel and Cain?You claims that you better knowledge western than We?
Whoooops. I advise you better go to the vet clinic first. And, see the donkeys there. Look carefully. Find similarity between you. Or what?In time we are living in the Marin “The Glass Wall” Sorescu and in the flat “Thomas Friedman” world, you still blind from west and east, north and south, earth and sky, land and sea, and others. At the time where somewhere in sky, someone has been working at their labs, then you still argue with me about western people? Oh. Come on. Did you go to school? Where? Better you kiss my butt, asshole.
And, I think you should eat these, morons:
They f*ck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fil you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.But they were f*cked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.Man hands on misery to man.
In deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.This Be The Verse – Philip Larkin
And, for you, woman, don’t go any wrong direction, chump. But, eat these before you decide to be Madonna:
I had not cursed them: they were quite attractive
I’d often longed to put my gob in their hair
the mauvely tinted like candyfloss
into their gobstopper gobs or under their miniskirtsI had not cursed them: somebody else must have done it
so that iron fell from the sky, and red-hot at that
after all I’m no grumpy man-eating founder
flinging the stuff about without rhyme or reasonAdmittedly, I never discovered among them
Sonia who converted Rasolnikov to Siberia
Elizabeth out of “Immensee” who’d let me make up for something
Madame de Stael who dared to be cleverNonetheless I regtret that now in Nevada
where the earthquake wind has blown me for a season
I can walk hole days and not find one teenager
only the girl-eyed desert jerboa-mouseThe End of Teenagers – a poem by Andreas Okopenko.
Can you listen that? Or, still dull? Deaf? Dumb? Braindead? Heartdead? Deafhead? Blindfool? Or, what? – I can’t hear you. Whuuuuuush.
After that listen these:
w’en mi jus’ come to Landan toun
mi use to wok pan di andahgroun
but wokin’ pan di andahgroun
y’u don’t get fi know your way aroun’Inglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch
dere’s no runnin’ whey fram itmi get a lickle jab in a big ‘otell
an’ awftah a while, mi woz-doin’ quite well
dem staat mi aaf as a dish-washah
but w’en mi tek a stack, mi noh tun clak-watchah!Inglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch
noh baddah try fi hide fram itw’en dem gi’ you di lickle wage packit
fus dem rab it wid dem big tax racket
y’u haffi struggle fi mek en’s meet
an’ w’en y’u goh a y’u bed y’u jus’ cant sleepInglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch fi true
a noh lie mi a tell, a truemi use to wok dig ditch w’en it cowl noh bitch
mi did strang like a mule, but, bwoy, mi did fool
den awftah a while mi jus’ stap dhu ovahtime
den awftah a while mi jus’ phu dung mi toolInglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch
y’u haffi know how fi survive in itwell mi dhu day wok an’ mi dhy nite wok
mi dhu clean wok an’ mi dhu dutty wok
deh seh dat black man is very lazy
hut if y’u si how mi wok y’u woulda seh mi crazyInglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch
y’u bettah face up to itdem have a lickle facktri up inna Brackly
inna disya fackti all dem dhu is pack crackty
fi di laas fifteen years dem get mi laybah
now awtah fifteen years mi fall out a fayyahInglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch
dere’s no runnin’ whey fram itmi know dem have wok, wok in abundant
yet still, dem mek mi redundant
now, at fifty-five mi gettin’ quite ol’
yet still, dem sen’ mi fi goh draw doleInglan is a bitch
dere’s no escapin’ it
Inglan is a bitch fi true
is whey wi a goh dh ’bout it?Inglan is a Bitch – a poem by Linton Kwesi Johnson
Can take my message, morons!
oh, my belly dancer
have you ever been to heaven
in healthy way and far from sin
no matter how many
it is a matter of
tender love care
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