Ross asks whether the government is willing to bring some Muslims into the 21st century.
Last month, another disgraceful scene occurred in Indonesia, Islamic thugs wreaking havoc on innocent people going about their lawful business. The latest outrage took place in Aceh, where you get whipped for kissing and card-playing. But this time it wasn’t the official sharia goon-cops.
Some people were relaxing in a café, the Café SC to be precise, in front of Cut Meutia Buket Rata Hospital, in Blang Mangat District. A gang of young louts invaded the place and tired to spray paint on the clothing of some ladies there, the issue being that they were wearing trousers considered too tight by the thugs. The owner bravely resisted, and one lout was injured, and the police even caught up with the bad guys and arrested them later. (Though we don’t know if they were charged or held for long!)
Next day, three truckloads of scumbags arrived, described in an article in last Tuesday’s Jakarta Post 31/7 as “Islamic students”, who proceeded to attack the café, causing damage to its equipment and to a car parked outside. The café’s owner was hurt. serambinews
This wretched tale was reported in the Jakarta Post by a Muslim journalist who sensibly disapproved, but he offered an explanation for the scumbags behaviour, viz., that they were following the “hadith” of their Prophet.
Anyone of you who sees something unbecoming should change it with your hands, if you fail, change it with your words, and if you fail again, do it with your heart.
The Jakarta Post writer, Mohammed Yazid, says this should be interpreted as a suggestion to only guide people’s behaviour.
I object to various kinds of behaviour, such as spitting in the street, and queue-jumping, but I have yet to hit anyone who engages in such misconduct, which is much more objectionable than a pretty girl wearing tight jeans -that in fact is not objectionable at all, except to priggish preman like the “Islamic students”. We don’t have a license to prevent even misfits like them doing as they please, unless they break the law.
To any thinking person, enforcement of law is the province of the police. What these students were studying is not said, but obviously not a lot. And what are the rest of the “Islamic” people going to do about this? Some 90% of Indonesians, more like 95% in Aceh, are Muslims. It is surely their duty to bring these morons to heel, and since corporal punishment exists up there, why not put it good use? Flog ’em!
Aceh’s recently elected independent Governor, an ex-GAM freedom fighter, is a democrat, and enjoyed a good education in America , so we are told. It is about time that he put his foot down and redeemed the reputation of his province.
But maybe we’ll have to wait some time. Just across the straits, in Malaysia, the Prime Minister, Abdullah Badawi, likes to claim he is promoting his country as an example of moderate Islam. Yet a series of cases, reported recently in the press, indicates that his minions are doing just the opposite, allowing the bigoted sharia courts to persecute non-Muslims, and any Muslims who wish to convert, freely.
Luthfi Assyaukanie, in a Straits Times article reproduced in the same day’s Jakarta Post, says that: assyaukanie.com
it is common knowledge that many Muslims are against philosophy and speculative thinking.
In other words, they have closed minds and intend to keep other people’s minds closed too. Until they wake up to the fact that they are living in the 21st, not the 7th, century, it’s up to governments who care about humanity to prevent these primitives lashing out at more civilized citizens.
Why don’t the decent Muslims and up and fight back? (Yes, I know Gus Dur and some others say the right things, but where’s the popular support they need?)
Some are trying to open up people’s minds (for example Gus Dur and others within the quote-unquote liberal stream of Islam), but they suffer from two major problems.
(a) most of them are so full of themselves that theyre more interested in taking part in international seminars or writing in international publications and convincing foreigners that they are right rather than getting their hands dirty on the grassroots level and doing the tough work. Most of the conservative groups you see around today did not just spring up overnight but plied their trade working hard through mosques and at the grassroots level during the Soeharto period (which mind you they had to do carefully or else risk being shot or disappeared – see Tanjung Priok). Liberal groups are still very much at the discourse level at the moment and will remain there until they can start getting down to the grassroots level and talking their language (which means more effort needs to be put into making sense of western terms or westernised Indonesian terms either in Indonesian or using Islamic concepts).
(b) most of them in their own affairs aren’t nearly as democratic or open as they claim to be anyway. Gus Dur is the perfect example. When things started going sour for him in PKB he pulled all his weight to make sure that his personal choice of leader for the party got through. They are often open and democratic as long as you agree with what their definition of open and democratic is and as long as you are willing to submit to them.
Its not just a matter of some ‘good Muslims’ standing up, its going to take a long while. If we see that the current conservative groups were a result of the breaking up of things like Darul Islam and so on, it has taken them 30-40 years to develop into what they are now. If liberal groups start working at the grassroots level now you might only see the beginnings of change after a similar period of time. Either way its going to take the usual combination of hard work and patience over time.
Shariah law is an abomination and backward law. Poor acehnese. Hope Shariah law wont be spread out to other Indonesian regions, it’s just unacceptable to democracy and freedom.
It is really sad to watch a nice country being undermined by this kind of Islamist (different perhaps from Islamic) nonsense.
Yes sad, but it is the course Acehneses themselves have voted to choose. Even if you explain it to them a hundred times, they will vote hundred times the same. As foreigners, there is not much we can do than to accept this decision. But I suppose there will be times when foreigners can make a difference in tipping the balance; but for Aceh, now is not the time.
Arema Says:
I can’t blame Muslims / extremists, they have been indoctrinated that Islam is the truth since they were born, and also taught that everything else is satanic (therefore correction is almost unheard of). Since they only know that much, you’d expect them to behave that way. They are “just doing their best”, in that sense, of what they know best. I can only blame Muhammad for bringing this havoc upon the Earth.
Cukurungan :
Sound to me like General Motor blaming Toyota Motor because Toyota succeeded to deliver the better car and prices to market.
Close the religious schools and mosques and banish the clerics.
Close the religious schools and mosques and banish the clerics.
Why does some people always resort to this extreme solution? “Close them all”, “banish them all”, etc. What next? “Kill them all?”
Seriously isn’t that behaviour just the same with those extremists you’re so eager to condemn?
Guys, please understood that those Radical group were rose recently in Aceh after Helsinki’s Peace Agreement signed. I believe it was brought by those stupid Javanese. For the Acehnese, we believe in solidarity and respect others believe. That’s why our leader happily live in Sweden and doesn’t want to go back.
i believe that muslims must obey the islamic rules. however, islam teaches us not to use violence without any authority. yet, i think the youngsters should understand their duties as muslims. this is my suggestion for my brothers n sisters in islam: don’t follow other people’s style just because u think it’s cool. remember, life on earth is really short, then u’ll be back to Allah. what do u plan to bring when the time comes, guyz?sins? for non-muslim people: please, learn more about islam, do not look at islam just based on what media say
thank u, salam
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I was going to write an article on this but Ross beat me to it. There was another related thing, the deputy mayor of Banda Aceh, Hj Illiza Sa`aduddin Djamal, complained recently that Acehnese people were increasingly ignoring the sharia:
He wished that people would obey sharia without having to be forced to, but if not they would have to learn the hard way: