Communism in Aceh
Mar 1st, 2007, in News, by PatungAceh is threatened by communism, says the head of the Banda Aceh parliament.
The chairman of the parliament, Muntasir Hamid, says he has information that communists, or communist tendencies, are about to enter Aceh, or are already in the process of doing so. He urged all sections of society to be on their guard and to report any sightings of communists, or communist looking things, to the police.
Hamid said that clerics, village heads, important figures, and Islamic school teachers, would take an active role in heading off the danger and would keep a lookout for any signs of foreign influence, like communism. Aceh was increasingly a focus of world attention, he went on, and the readiness to deal with communism had to be increased.
Hamid hoped that sharia law would provide a solid foundation for the people’s lives and, for example, help them to overcome the communist tendency problem. suaramerdeka
18 Comments on “Communism in Aceh”
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Tomaculum says:
One more (non relevant but effective) argumentation to legitimate the sharia.
Hamid hoped that sharia law would provide a solid foundation for the people’s lives and, for example, help them to overcome the communist tendency problem.
🙂 or 🙁
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Madesh says:
Everything against their views is communist.
Are they trying to copy orba’s tactic to influence people?
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Bas says:
All Indonesians are true followers of ORBA even if they’re not aware of it or don’t want to admit it. From the top of the state to the rice field they actually all think the same way.
Communism danger in Aceh haha what a joke. Yeah they really need Shariah to prevent that. That should also work to prevent alien invasion and future tsunami I think.
We’ll see, and laugh.
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Dimp says:
What is so bad about communism? As long as they are doing good deeds, what is the use of being religious if you don’t contribute to the society in a positive way.
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Karlira Kanakahuko says:
What do you mean ORBA? It is a demonic thing?
What is so bad about communism?
Both radicalism and communixm are both bad, because they destructs human rights. Radical destruct the rights women and children while communixm destructs both men, women and children’s rights and the rights of religion, the same the radical Muslims’ oppressin against non-Muslims, particularly Christians.
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Robert says:
The chairman of the parliament, Muntasir Hamid, says he has information that communists, or communist tendencies, are about to enter Aceh, or are already in the process of doing so.
This is another example of a politician rambling about communism entering the country, without giving any proof or evidence. It looks like the communist hunting in the US during the 1950’s, where certain politicians created an atmosphere of fear.
He urged all sections of society to be on their guard and to report any sightings of communists, or communist looking things, to the police.
“Sightings” of communists? I have heard of UFO sightings but never of communist sightings. How do you recognize a communist? Do they have certain characteristic features? Pointy ears or tentacles? And what the heck are communist looking things?
Hamid is talking about the entering of communism like the invasion of the bodysnatchers or martians. Without the evidence it remains a figment of his imagination. -
Colson says:
Lenin-style communism is a nightmare from the recent past. Fortunately it is definitely history.
Sharia-style theocracy is a nightmare from the ancient past. Unfortunately it is not yet definitely history.
I consider mr Muntasir Hamid to be a living nightmare and a dangerous man for a humane, civil society.
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Stephen says:
Can someone tell me what is ORBA? I am a Malaysian. Thanks.
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Matahari says:
This is another example to fool the people in Aceh, I hate to say, many or most of people who are living in Aceh don’t have access to information, simply because they can’t afford to, they don’t even understand what communism means, that chairman of Parliament seems to have good position to fooling people around with his position.
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Mohammed Khafi says:
ORBA is a contraction of Orde Baru, the Suharto Era Government Policy.
Don’t these people realise how stupid they make themselves look by spewing out all this nonsense, or are there really so stupid that they don’t realise, and what we are seeing is the reality. That is actually a frightening thought isn’t it? I guess this is the result of having a poorly educated, and poorly informed populace, no wonder education is not given a priority in development.
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When you replace the word communist by the word bodysnatcher and communism by bodysnatching the article would more resemble a Hollywood moviescript.
Where does Hamid get his crazy ideas from? -
Hi Karlira,
communixm destructs both men, women and children’s rights and the rights of religion
People should be free to choose any religions they want to, the same way that they should be free if they want to be communist.
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Communist is something good, an ideal state, but like many science theory, it won’t be applicable in real world. There is nothing wrong with being idealistic, isn’t it?
Democracy is something good, an ideal state, but like many science theory, it has many defects, especially when it is applied in Indonesia, where majority of the citizens are still stupid (i am not trying to insult, but this is the reality). But there is nothing wrong to try, isn’t it?
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orgindo said:
Communist is something good, an ideal state, but like many science theory, it won’t be applicable in real world. There is nothing wrong with being idealistic, isn’t it?
Democracy is something good, an ideal state, but like many science theory, it has many defects, especially when it is applied in Indonesia, where majority of the citizens are still stupid (i am not trying to insult, but this is the reality). But there is nothing wrong to try, isn’t it?
In principle Sharia is also good as a system of both Law and Government, but the implementation is so corrupted by ancient Arab traditions, and the lies and fabrications of Sunnah and Hadith that it is actually a mockery of Allah’s true spirit and principles in Al Quran.
An uncorrupted example of Sharia in application is the treaty signed between Prophet Mohammed and the Monks of St Catherines Monastery in Sinai, it reads:
This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.
Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).This document still exists in the monastery to this day.
Another example is to the Najran code of Conduct which The Prophet issued to his followers.
In the year 10 A.H. (631 CE), Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) received a delegation of sixty Christians from Najran in Medinah. The territory of Najran was located south of Bani Khath’am near Yemen, about 450 miles south of Medinah. They were received in the Prophet’s mosque, and the Prophet allowed them to pray in the mosque, which they did facing East. This group of Christians followed Byzantine rite.
In spite of doctrinal disagreements, the Prophet concluded a treaty with the people of Najran. The Prophet dictated the terms of the treaty to Abdullah b. Abu Bakr, who served as one of his scribes, and it was witnessed by five companions whose names are: Abu Sufyan b. Harb, Ghilan b. Amr, Malik b. Auf, Aqra’ b. Habis, and Mughira b. Shu’ba. The treaty provided religious and administrative autonomy for non-Muslim citizens of the Islamic State. All sincere Muslim rulers have adhered to the founding principles of this treaty in managing the affairs of non-Muslim subjects throughout the centuries.
The text of the Code of Conduct:“To the Christians of Najran and its neighbouring territories, the security of God and the pledge of Mohammed the Prophet, the Messenger of God, are extended for their lives, their religion, their land, their property “” to those thereof who are absent as well as to those who are present “” to their caravans, their messengers and their images. The status quo shall be maintained: none of their rights [religious observances] and images shall be changed. No bishop shall be removed from his bishopric, nor a monk from his monastery, nor a sexton from his church … For what in this instrument is contained they have the security of God, and the pledge of Mohammed, the Prophet forever, until doomsday, so long as they give right counsel [to Moslems] and duly perform their obligations, provided they are not unjustly charged therewith.”
As can be seen even the Defenders of the Islamic Faith in Saudi Arabia do not appear to uphold the Spirit of these documents! What hope is there for their brainwashed followers to be able to do it?
Peace
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Manuel says:
The chairman of the parliament, Muntasir Hamid, says he has information that communists, or communist tendencies, are about to enter Aceh, or are already in the process of doing so.
Hamid hoped that sharia law would provide a solid foundation for the people’s lives and, for example, help them to overcome the communist tendency problem.
Above are the format, please use accordingly the word ‘communist’ with what ever you like to help you with your agenda…… for example.
global warming, global cooling, green house emision, tiger extinction, flood,
avian influenza, rice price increase, Satanic Jew, Bush Evil, Pamela Anderson’s
silicon, hey stop looking at my wifes.., Indonesian Soccer team never win, and
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Joni Arief says:
Hamid is confusing communism with people’s protests againsts :
– DPR/DPRD members’ salary increase
– Indirect election of DPR/DPRD members
– Corruption, Collussion & Nepotism (KKN)
and other things which are contradictory to selfish the interests
of those indirectly elected parlimentarians. -
Maybe most of you don’t know it. Orba is Acronym for Orde Baru ( New Order ). We Indonesian people love acronyms, we could make acronyms for almost everything.
The New order were established by our second president “the smiling General” Soeharto. We hunt communist people, burned their houses, imprisoning them, heck we even prohibited their decendants to live properly. In my village their bodies were hung in ricefields to be scarecrow. The era had ended now, but maybe there were few communist people left in Indonesia. Maybe you forget but our goverment were backed up by US at that time. They say kill commie, we kill.
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He might be confusing the communists with radical Muslims. 🙂