Bekasi is hot and bothered by a mini-sex scandal.
Thirteen photos circulating since early December in Bekasi show a female public servant (PNS), named Dini, employed in the housing section of the city administration of the satellite city of Jakarta, in various states of undress and seductive posing. In some of the photos she is accompanied by a male employee of the same office, Aditya.
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On the 19th various Muslim groups rallied outside the office of the mayor of Bekasi, demanding that the two civil servants be dismissed. The groups represented at the demonstration were Front Pembela Islam (FPI), Dewan Da’wah, Gabungan Remaja Islam, Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI). Many carried posters threatening violators of good morality in Bekasi. kompas Some demonstrators were heard to say that the matter had insulted the Muslim community in Bekasi and that the two PNS were moral terrorists. metrotv
Abdul Qodir Djaelani of the Bekasi branch of the FPI said the two culprits had violated both Islamic and state law and therefore should be sacked and prosecuted.
Police commissioner Syamsudin Baharuddin vowed to call the offenders for questioning but said he first had to determine whether the photos were genuine or “photoshopped”.
Endang Suharyadi from the Bekasi government said the matter had been handed over to the police. He said Dini had already been fired and Aditya had been punished. tempo
Abdul Qodir Djaelani of the Bekasi branch of the FPI said the two culprits had violated both Islamic and state law and therefore should be sacked and prosecuted.
Where were FPI during the last few weeks, strangely conspicuous by their absence! Are they ignoring the fact that Aa Gym has violated Islamic Law and State Law? Or are they just admitting their own ignorance of both?
The two people involved in this should be disciplined, their behaviour is completely inappropriate in a public office and presumably during working hours. Should they be sacked from their jobs? If we were to use their behaviour as a yardstick for dismissal we would soon end up with government offices even less well staffed than they are presently!
Hi friends !
Saddening portrait of someone who looks nice. I’m sad such trifles become State affairs. Do you mean, Mohammed Kh. that so many PNS loose their time in picturesque orgies ?
Hey Patung ! What about Amrozy Cs’s PK ? Here is also a picture, infinitely more shocking : of a guy who killed innocent people and does not (publicly) recognize his crime. A guy FPI will probably never call a criminal.
Peace for all !
Hi Fanglong,
I don’t know if they would be picturesque, certainly not in Tangerang anyway!
I was just refering to the inappropriateness of their actions, many people use the government offices for inappropriate actions, watching TV , using government facilities for their private business, sleeping, not being good servants of the public, etc.
You have really upset my peace today Fanglong, I cannot clear my head of the images of public servants in their offices, cavorting in uniform to the sound of Dangdut blaring from the ever present TV set.
😉 😉
Peace
I haven’t seen the pictures yet apart from one attached on this forum.
So, I can’t give any precise comment.
Usually every office has a policy not to allow anyone taking picture inside working area without permission by the office authority.
To break the rule means to get punish … the office itself has the written sanction for the offender … let them decide and implement their rule …
Gada
More scandal? Well they did say that the YZ and ME one was only the tip of the iceberg.
“Are they ignoring the fact that Aa Gym has violated Islamic Law and State Law?”
Muhammad khafi, maybe those people never read ‘the Quran and it’s translation, by Muhammad khafi’. Because as far as Islamic law is concerned – the one generally accepted and practiced by most Muslims worldwide that is – polygamy is an ‘allowed’ (not encouraged) practice and surely not ‘haram’.
Funny you should mention it, so now all Muslims worldwide must conform to whatever the great Muhammad khafi has allowed or not. The last time I checked, ‘the Quran and it’s translation’ were published by various ulamas, but one written by a certain Muhammad khafi is not one of the credible ones. I myself prefer the yusuf ali and mohsin khan version.
Be careful with your ijtihad khafi, you could be misleading a lot of people. Are you prepared to deal with the qonsequences in the afterlife?
Btw, which state law are you talking about? The one that prohibit public servants (PNS) to marry more than one woman? Is abdullah gymnastiar one of those people (PNS)?
Hassan, welcome back I was missing you My Brother!
Well even if we ignore the fact that these verses were given after the battle of Uhud, and were to deal with the problems of widows and orphans in time of war:
004.003
YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
PICKTHAL: And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.
SHAKIR: And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course.
MOHSINKHAN: And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphangirls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (the captives and the slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice.
It seems clear to me in the above translations including the Mohsin Khan and Yusuf Ali translations which you like, that Aa Gym, has not met the requirements, namely not being able to deal justly with orphans, where are the orphans that Aa Gym is not able to deal fairly with?
You will also note I hope that fairness to the wives has to be maintained, If we look further in “An Nisa”
004.129
YUSUFALI: Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so). But turn not altogether away (from one), leaving her as in suspense. If ye do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: And you have it not in your power to do justice between wives, even though you may wish (it), but be not disinclined (from one) with total disinclination, so that you leave her as it were in suspense; and if you effect a reconciliation and guard (against evil), then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
MOHSINKHAN:You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire, so do not incline too much to one of them (by giving her more of your time and provision) so as to leave the other hanging (i.e. neither divorced nor married). And if you do justice, and do all that is right and fear Allah by keeping away from all that is wrong, then Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.
Allah Himself clearly states that you will never be able to be fair to your wives/women. Unless of course you are suggesting that Aa Gym has somehow elevated himself above us mere mortals to the status of a Prophet?
I believe that under the 1974 Marriage Act, Muslim men may marry a second time only if their first wife is infertile, ill or absent, please correct me if I am wrong. But given that that law is based on Sharia, and Sharia in this case is clearly against Allah’s words in Al Quran it is not really relevant is it? Or does Sharia negate Al Quran in this case?
I have never suggested that people have to believe what I believe, it is their own choice. But I am quite ready to account for myself in the afterlife I just wonder if all of those who do not follow Allah’s clear path are ready for their consequences?
My religion is between me and God, as should other peoples be, I just find it strange that a man who set himself up as an example to the ordinary people of Indonesia should have such little understanding of Al Quran, the verses are very clear to me.
Mohammed khafi, maybe abdullah gymnastiar’s understanding of the verses above are not like yours. He practiced what the mainstream Muslims believed and you clearly don’t. Let’s not create some sort of public oppinion and judge a person based on that oppinion we had created. I’m quite sure he wouldn’t do it if he thought it was the wrong thing to do, him being a preacher and all.
All I’m saying is he clearly believed what he did was the true path for him, let’s not judge him based on our own interpretations and understandings of the matter, he knew what’s best for him.
3:109 “To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: To Him do all questions go back (for decision).”
Hassan,
Freedom of choice, he makes his own decisions and has to account for them to Allah, I was upset that being a preacher and having people look up to him that he should set such an example.
It is not our interpretations, those verses don’t really need interpretation do they? I would have said that they are very clear.
As you say Allah will be his Judge.
Hassan,
I dont understand why you attacked MK. At least when he is challenged he provides good feedback. And at least he is not spreading hatred by providing us different angles and arguements on many topics, to have an open view on things, to tolerate other believes.
It seems Hassan, when you run out of things to say you just want to provoke others.
If only people who say “Allah will be our judge” actually mean what they are saying. Ahmadiyah will be free to practice their religion, Playboy will not be persecuted by printing their magazines, women will not be forced to wear hijab/jilbab/niqab, etc. etc. etc.
Yea Ihaknt,,u’r damn right!!!
But anyway we need Hassan to keep our comments column colourful,,becoz he’s the one who always has “a bit” different opinion from normal ppl,,hahaha
At least Moh Khafi can make an opinion with a very clear basics,,
Khafi read b4 he talked,,but u?
Ihaknt : If you read the older posts here in Indonesia matters then you’ll know it’s just a routine debate between me and khafi. There’s never a hard feeling between us, well at least on my part.
I argue for the sake of arguing, to increase my knowledge and understanding of other people’s view, not to force others to conform to mine. I’m sorry if my statements sounded harsh to you, that’s just my style and I can’t change it in a short notice.
Btw, do you always call other people’s statements as “provocative” whenever their oppinions differ from yours or the mainstream views here?
Mohammed Khafi: my, my, you have quite a ‘follower’ these days. 😀
About the ‘interpretations’ thing, may i ask you again, brother khafi, do you have some sort of degree in the field of ‘tafsir Al Quran’? Maybe there’s where the difference of oppinion between you and Gymnastiar (and the majority of Muslims)came from.
Miss Indo 07: off course i read before talking. Nice reading your oppinion and talking to you again 🙂
Aren’t we all snoopy peeping toms?
(sorry, haven’t click the picture. I’ll do it now. Interesting panties, isn’t it. But not in line with the uniform, hmmm?). 🙂
Hassan and I are like argumentative brothers, nothing more than that, I have the greatest respect for my brother even if we see things differently. We also I believe, think that our own views should not be forced onto others, at least I hope so!
As long as we both can debate in this manner we are both learning and maybe others who follow our debate can also become more knowledgable on matters of faith.
I do not have any degree in Tafsir, I think that when Allah says in Al Quran that He made it easy to understand, He meant it. He said that He made some verses clear in meaning and others more allegorical, and that those who waste time arguing over the allegorical were not following his Straight Path.
I think that all the verses which I quote are clear in meaning and do not require interpretation.
We must not forget that Islam was created without any established clerical organisation, The Prophet gave the verses direct to the people. Those who have established themselves as the Clerics of Islam are going against Allah’s wishes. Islam was a religion created for the ordinary man and woman and which has unfortunately been hijacked by a self appointed Clergy who I believe have twisted His teachings to suit themselves and their masters over the course of history.
“So woe to those who write scripture with their own hands then say: “This is from God” to accept with it a small gain. So woe to them from what their hands wrote, and woe to them from what they reaped.” 2:79
This applies especially those in the employ of governments Salaried Holy Men who will do their paymasters bidding.
“O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law and the clerics eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah’s way…” 9:34
This admonishment was to The People of the Book, but we as Muslims need to heed its warnings as well.
Average people regard the clergy with gratitude for taking away from them the burden of having to think for themselves and sift through the thousands of obscure, irrelevant, and often boring pieces of so called wisdom. The clergy simply tells people what to do and they happily oblige:
They will also say, “Our Lord, we have obeyed our masters and leaders, but they led us astray. 33:67
Members of the clerics who are making a living out of the lies are a great fit for positions in the propaganda and brain washing machine of corrupt politicians.
Btw, do you always call other people’s statements as “provocative” whenever their oppinions differ from yours or the mainstream views here?
No, only yours, Ismail’s, and JKS’s statements 😉
If the others have different views I simply ignore them unless they say silly things. It seems like having makan2 with you guys can be an interesting night tho!
Ihaknt: may i wonder why was it only mine, Ismail’s, and JKS’ statements?
Making things “interesting” is part of the reason why i liked to bring a different angle into some of the discussions here. I found following with the choir to be quite boring.
Hassan, of course you can wonder. It’s your rights. I just feel like it. You provide the bait, i bite it, vice versa. You want it to be interesting then so be it…It’s all good bro, you wanna have fun your way let’s do it then. How’s it feel having your ego stroked?
Tom, i didnt know you’d be so fashion savvy 🙂
Polka Dot is all the rage…
:))
Go to Hell you lousy FPI!!!
You cannot even civilized yourself among the ordinary community.
Just shut up and civilized yourself.
I don’t care for what the woman does ! it is her own choice, even she is naked on streets. But first she is too ugly, and the second is the important thing is that I don’t want to pay any taxes ( PBB,kendaraan bermotor,etc) for such a bad whore like her !!!
KOmentar,
Lanjut saja bu. tidak perlu mendengarkan kritikan orang. Sepanjang menurut ibu itu benar dan menarik saya setuju, kalau perlu untuk verifikasinya ibu kirimkan ke email saya.
Mam, I agree 100 % for what you have already done. Just do it and keep going on.
Best Regards,
Budhi
A brief encounter with Dini.
A testimony from a local who intended to make new ID Card in Bekasi.
Dini : (spreading her legs) “Mau bikin KTP, Pak?”
local : (shocked) “Uhuh..Wait, no, no.., thank you. I was just leaving.
Suddenly I have a little emergency. (walking out the door, looking
back) Anyway, what’s with the polkadot? Are you on crack?”
Dini : (putting one hand on her groin) “No, just polkadot.”
Dear Sirs,
I do not see what the problem is. This girl has a wonderful body and is very pretty.
Let her show it to the world. God gave her this body therefore his wonderful gifts should be shown to the world. Lets be honest the majority of Indonesians are influenced by the west, they want to be westernised let them be.
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Who took the fotos in the first place? Very bad pose tho.