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7:06 pm August 29, 2009
| Baeksu
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Post edited 12:08 pm – August 29, 2009 by Baeksu
Howdy, all! I'm browsed this forum a bit in the past but am a first time poster here.
I've been living in Seoul, South Korea for over a decade but several years ago visited Indonesia and realized that I would be a fool not to spend some time there and perhaps even settle down there permanently.
I like big cities and will probably head for Jakarta. My question is about universities there. I've taught English and writing at several universities in Seoul and am wondering if anyone knows about the university teaching scene in Jakarta? I'm also a professional writer and critic and mainly am looking for a place to work that has low hours and gives me a visa on a year-to-year basis. I expect a uni salary to be not so extravagant, but if I bring some savings of my own that wouldn't be too much of a hindrance.
I'm also wondering what the best neighborhoods are to live in in Jakarta for an expat on a moderate income. I'm familiar with Jakarta's notorious gridlock so I suppose I'd want to live close to where I work, so I wonder if any of the neighborhoods around any of Jakarta's universities are pleasant places to reside in? Also, I might be interested in staying in Jakarta's Koreatown, at least initially, since I like Korean food and can speak Korean so that might also be a good place for me to "acclimatize" myself to the local situation.
Any thoughts on any of the above would be much appreciated!
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4:33 pm August 30, 2009
| Ross
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Hi!
Binus University and Monash College both employ expats, though I'm not sure if you are a native speaker.
You can get their websites and contact them when you like.
Neither is located in a cheap area, but I use buses and other forms of public transport to reach the city centre, cheap and interesting.
Clearly, the further out you stay, usually the cheaper it is. I've heard you can get cheap flats up in Pluit, North Jakarta, but you might be advised to have a lok at west Jakarta, the Slipi area and adjacent parts towards Kebon Jeruk.
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6:20 pm August 30, 2009
| Baeksu
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Post edited 11:23 am – August 30, 2009 by Baeksu
Hello Ross, thanks very much for the information. Yes, I'm a "native" speaker of English, from the SF Bay Area originally, but have also lived in London and Mebourne, which means I can effectively speak Surfer, Gansgta, Ocker and Pom.
Binus and Monash seem to be somewhat recently established institutions in Jakarta. I'll be sure to look them up, and thanks again for the leads.
I pretty much like to live in city centers and have been able to get by in Seoul right downtown the whole time I've been here, and considering it's one of the world's most expensive cities rent-wise, Jakarta shouldn't be too bad by comparison. The only problem, as far as I can tell, is that Jakarta seems to be very spread-out and polycentric, somewhat like Berlin, for example, so it's hard to say what the most "central" of Jakarta's centers is. The last time I was there I stayed right near Monas but the area seemed rather quiet at night and didn't exactly feel like a genuine city center, with lots of foot traffic and the like.
A lot of Koreans apparently live in Tangerang, but that seems far too away from the main urban core for my tastes. They also seem to have established a beachhead in Kebayoran Baru, which is known to be quite wealthy, but I'll have to investigate further to see what sorts of digs are available in the area.
Cheers again!
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8:25 pm August 30, 2009
| Ross
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Yeah, Tangerang is not on my fave list. Karawaci, however, is 'dead posh,' and won't really admit it's in Tangerang.
If you like a noisy environment, Jalan Jaksa is central, with very cheap lodgings, but a tad raffish – fun to go to, but living there might be character-forming.
Kebayoran Baru is costly. You might find somebody to share a house with -somebody who shares rent, that is -there are plenty of people willing to share the space, but you need to choose those wisely, otherwise she'll move her family in too!
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8:57 pm August 30, 2009
| Baeksu
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Jalan Jaksa? Do any expats actually live there long-term?
I thought it was mainly a "decompression chamber" for tourists, a watering hole for ESL teachers and a night market for trannies and druggies.
Surely it would not be a very impressive residence to put on one's namecard, at least in the eyes of locals, would it?
I do recall that Jalan Jaksa was close to Tanamur, of which I have fond memories, but I think I've read somewhere that it closed down a while ago after some thirty years.
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12:01 am August 31, 2009
| Odinius
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Hey Baeksu,
A lot of Koreans do live in Kebayoran baru, but that might be a tad pricey, as its mostly single-unit houses and there are few apartment complexes. But the area around Jalan Wolter Monginsidi has some nice restaurants and has lots of trees.
For a pleasant, but not terribly Korean, area, I'd recommend the greater Kemang area. A lot of expats, but not too many. Some walkable areas. Restaurants and bars. Only downside, really, is the traffic.
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3:53 am August 31, 2009
| Pakmantri
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Hi Baeksu,
If you wanted to know the market price for houses or apartments in Kebayoran Baru and surrounding area, here is a site that you can look at.
Houses and apartment listing. The term "Dijual" means for sale and "Disewakan" mean it is for rent and "Dikontrakan" means for lease.
Rp 1 jt = rupiah 1 million (juta = million), 1 jt approx = to US $100.
I hope it'll help with your search.
Salam.
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11:43 pm August 31, 2009
| Baeksu
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Thanks for the info, Odinius and Pakmantri.
Clearly I must spend at least several weeks perambulating the city before making any hasty decisions.
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11:58 pm August 31, 2009
| Odinius
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Yeah definitely. Besides, choosing where to live should really take into account where you are going to go for work, and how you are going to get there. If you take the bus, try to be close to the bus route you need to take. If you will drive, try to have a clear route to your workplace that doesn't stick you in some 3-in-1 macet nightmare.
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2:41 am September 1, 2009
| cmeinwa
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Great information from everyone. I'll be re-locating to Indonesia, possibly Jakarta, in December and this helps much. Cheers.
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9:23 am September 1, 2009
| Pakmantri
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Post edited 3:45 am – September 7, 2009 by Patung
@ Baeksu & Cmeiwa,
This site is also a good place to make your research in living in Indonesia.
http://www.expat.or.id/
Salam.
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2:23 am September 2, 2009
| cmeinwa
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10:28 am September 7, 2009
| Dragonwall
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| Santri | posts 58 | |
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Try getting a property agent to get a better variety of location and the choice of price.
I think that would be the best bets.
Most property agents you could search them in your hometown to give you referrals to that in Jakarta.
This way it would saves you a bit of time.
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7:46 pm December 16, 2009
| devilkitty
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well, in uni that i go to (ui.ac.id)i heard the salary's around 10million a month (around $1000 usd), it's enough to support living in jakarta. About Korean neighborhood, in kemang pratama house complex there are quite a lot of Korean too, but it's in bekasi (45 minutes to Jakarta).
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12:31 pm December 25, 2009
| riniss
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Post edited 12:34 pm – December 25, 2009 by riniss
hm.i live in karawaci, the place is quite better than living in the middle of jakarta *too crowded*.
and there is an university here,name UPH (Universitas Pelita Harapan).and also it has international school (SPH/sekolah pelita harapan). but i dont have idea how to enroll and being a teacher there.maybe u can search their website.
many expats live here in karawaci.and this place is modern too (near to malls, hotel,cafes, food areas, and the good one is there is a big and very cozy book store-times)..:).u can figure out ur self after u come here and see the neighborhood in karawaci.
but, that's only my opinion.
good luck.
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