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4:19 pm November 24, 2009
| Ed Redneck USA
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I don't know whether I'm in the right place to comment, but I can give it a try. I've just read about another Indonesian Ferry sinking with much loss of life. 20 years ago I read an article taken from Littell's Living Age magazine dated March 10, 1877.
This article described the saving of a steamer from sinking in violent wave waters. It was done by hanging canvas bags of oil over the side of the ship; the oil seeped out of the bags and calmed the waves. Do an experiment yourself (I did on a large lake in Michigan) and you'll find that any kind of oil creates a thin cover on the water. Just a small amount of any kind of vegetable oil will quickly disperse, and especially in a "following wave" situation, the water is made much more calm.
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8:54 pm November 24, 2009
| BrotherMouzone
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Thanks for this.
We will get in touch with all the ferry drivers in Indonesia and tell them to get onto this "crap that Ed heard" method of accident prevention immediately.
We should probably arrange some sort of medal for you…
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9:10 pm November 24, 2009
| Patung
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Here you go Ed (can't believe I found this, and it was March 3rd edition)
POURING OIL ON TROUBLED WATERS.
The effect of oil in stilling troubled waters has been so long known, remarks Iron, that it has been constituted the basis of a proverbial phrase. A very small quantity of oil thus used has frequently overcome a very powerful sea. Not many years ago a case occurred in which a ships crew was enabled, during a severe storm, to escape on shore by the help of a few gallons of oil. A similar and equally success- ful employment of the same substance is re- ported to have been made off the Cape of Storn~s last summer. The King Cenric, a vessel of fourteen hundred and ninety tons, left Liverpool in June last for Bombay. When off the Cape of Good Hope she encountered a heavy gale from the north-west, which con- tinued for some time. Tremendous seas broke over the ship, bursting in the mainhatch, wash- ing away the hatch-houses and boats, smash- ing in the front of the cabin, and destroying the captains and officers stores and clothing.
The gale lasted for nearly five days, and though the vessel stood it very well, it was impossible to repair any of th.e damage, as the waves were continually sweeping her decks. At length the chief officer suggested the trial of throwing oil upon the water. Two canvas clothes-bags were obtained, and into each two gallons of fine oil were poured, the bags being punctured slightly, and flung one over each quarter in tow of the vessel. The effect was magical; the waves no longer broke over the poop and sides of the ship, but several yards away, where the oil had spread itself over the surface, and around the poop, in the wake of the vessel, was a large circuit of calm water. The crew were thus able to repair the damage with greater ease, and the ship was relieved from the tremendous shocks she had pre- viously received from the heavy seas. The two bags lasted two days, after which the worst fury of the gale having expended itself no more oil was used.
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2:37 am November 25, 2009
| Ed Redneck USA
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I thank you, Patung, for the corroboration that I'm perhaps not really DUMB! i never make things up and I think that the US Coast Guard should also take the advisory. The only problem here would be that the EPA, The Sierra Club, Ducks Unlimited and other environmental groups would argue against it, finding perhaps that some small fish or duck might die, as opposed to saving human lives.
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7:40 am November 25, 2009
| Burung Koel
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Trying to get a shipload of cooking oil over the side of a foundering ship in a rough sea wouldn't be my first choice of strtaegy for sea safety. A better solution might be just to ensure that all ferries are seaworthy before leaving port.
/Just sayin'
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9:27 am November 25, 2009
| Ed Redneck USA
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When the squaws found Custer lying on the battleground at Little Bighorn, they pierced his ears with bone awls. Why? They believed he hadn't listened at the treaty of Washita when the Sioux told him to stay out of the black hills territory.
Not a strong analogy, but I think that Burning Koel didn't read either my post or Patung's very carefully. The amount of oil for a ship that size would probably be only a couple of barrels. The oil in those incidents was poured into canvas bags and trickled through holes punched in the fabric. Ergo, it would not take a shipload of oil. Patung's post said there 2 qts in each bag, for a total of 4 qts. Spray a tiny amount of WD-40 into a good sized rain puddle and you will find that the oil will cover the whole puddle in just seconds.
/Just correctin'
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10:29 am November 25, 2009
| Burung Koel
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Fine. Next time you're about to board an Indonesian ferry, you are welcome to carry the oil.
Meanwhile, I'll be checking the the marine survey certificate.
:-)
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