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Google, China & Free Speech

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1:04 pm
January 13, 2010


Patung

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Big news in the internet world!

http://googleblog.blogspot.com…..china.html

We [Google] have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

1:10 pm
January 13, 2010


Patung

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8:59 am
January 14, 2010


Burung Koel

Santri

posts 23

It would be nice if they (Google) applied their market muscle consistently.

I know that in Burma, we based mail is more or less completely banned by the authorities*, however many people have a gmail account, which they can only access through a proxy server or if the internet cafe uses a couple of tricks.

*Normally I'd use the word 'government', but given the way they run things, they don't deserve even this title.

2:23 pm
January 14, 2010


Patung

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There's also the issue in Europe, to comply with particularly French and German law they maintain a blacklist of neo-Nazi and such like sites, they're manually kept out of the index in those countries. Few will have any sympathy for Nazi sites but if we're talking consistency….

1:44 pm
January 17, 2010


Ross

Santri

posts 37

Nice to see some attention to this.

Google's sudden Damascine conversion is certainly suspect, but nevertheless welcome.

And Patung makes a useful point about the lack of even-handedness re 'extreme right' and 'extreme left.' The former are monitored, harassed and otherwise deplored, whereas the practitioners of class-hatred of  various marxist stripes are left to foment their nonsenses in peace, presumably because the monitors are sympathetic.

We have a simlar phenonemon in wikipedia, where Obama's sycophants routinely scrub input from those who want his nefarious/mysterious connections opened up…

The Internet is too valuable to permit political interference with its use. (I exclude, of course, sexploitation material like pedophile sites, though since said Barack Husein has now picked a notorious pedophile advocate for an important job, that whole area requires serious monitoring. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good folks to do nothing.)

9:38 am
January 21, 2010


Odinius

Santri

posts 66

Pretty sure this has more to do with the specter of massive-scale corporate espionage than it does free speech.  Large corporations don't usually take idealistic stands in the face of millions in profits.  

9:40 am
January 21, 2010


Odinius

Santri

posts 66

Ross said:

"And Patung makes a useful point about the lack of even-handedness re 'extreme right' and 'extreme left.' The former are monitored, harassed and otherwise deplored, whereas the practitioners of class-hatred of  various marxist stripes are left to foment their nonsenses in peace, presumably because the monitors are sympathetic."

In Indonesia?!  Really, Ross??!!!

4:46 pm
January 21, 2010


Burung Koel

Santri

posts 23

Sounds like Ross's cable provider doesn't have Fox News.



 
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