And the spreading of true, hard core pornography in internet goes on and on.
There are many Indonesian mens magazines which are much more graphic than Playboy so I am told. Whilst I am not suprised that FPI are involved in this as they are “religious thugs for hire” I am somewhat dismayed that the police have also allowed themselves to be bought off. I would not be suprised if there are not other players in the background pulling the strings and facilitating all of this! All it does is divert the police, judiciary and maybe more importantly the public’s attention away from more important matters, or perhaps that is the reason?
M.Khafi,
to my opinion pornography exists in one’s thought. When I see a naked woman in a picture or as a painting (Picasso a. e.) I wouldn’t call it pornography, because I would surely not turned on by such things.
Tomaculum,
I agree with you completely, the female form is a thing of beauty in most of it’s various shapes and sizes. One of Gods amazing creations to be appreciated and admired.
Call that that same magazine something else, and we’ll see a different treatment.
Popular has similar content, yet nothing happens to it.
Those dogs are barking up the wrong tree.
One word to these people: MUNAFIK!!! And yes Andrew and all of the above post-ers, I cant agree with you more! I wonder where their brains are? Religious thugs for hire, and they call themselves as religious/religion defenders? They’re just f***ing perverts and ignorant twats. All things that go wrong in their lives, they blame it on American influence. The more they protest the more they show that they are all just in a huge ‘sandiwara’ in the name of religion. Indonesians, what have you become? more and more behind by the day…
GO MAS ERWIN!
If playboy is banned than should the other men magazines that show that kinda pictures. Do these people think about the potential job loss? I guess their brain is too small and may hurt if they ever use it!
Again with Tom (Dec. 16, 1:28 pm) I do agree. Does anyone need links to beauty-butchers’ sites ? Maybe should we cut FPI’s right fists : aren’t they stealing people’s freedom with their hystery ?
I hope Erwin Ananda is not guilty, because his playboy edition magazine has no nudity. In fact, local magazine is something more “x-rated” and more lustrous than playboy magazine. Playboy magazine is banned in Indonesia? I hope it is false. I always watch more pictures and videos of nude Indonesian men/boys and women/girls uncensored or x-rated, including sex scandal of Yahya Zaini and Maria Eva. All FPI are hypocrite. I also see pictures of nude Indon man on one sex website who is member of FPI, that’s why we call them hypocrite.
I like to contact mrs Arnada. I’m a french journalist. I would like to speak with him about his trial.
Playboy?? If you are a normal man then looking at porn is a turn on! There is a difference in art and porn and I believe we all know that. The question would be this…Would God be pleased with the material we look at? I believe not! He calls for purity and a clean heart. The old testiment clearly shows how people continued to put idols before God and yet we continue to do the same thing. When will we learn? You all know that porn is wrong, grow up and get some type of morals in your life!
FPI and it’s kind is poisoning Indonesia in the name of a religion. Their movement is a cultural revolution shrouded in religious excuse. They intend to wear out Indonesia’s own culture and identity, and replace it with Arab’s – or whatever it is.
Unfortunately, a lot of Indonesians bite the bait. They think wearing robes, turbans, growing long beards and shouting Arab words are way cooler than wearing traditional costumes and speaking native languages. They think hating westerners is more important than resolving domestic issues. They think denouncing western leaders is more important than bringing corrupt Indonesian officials to justice.
Apparently 50+ years of being independent did not make (most) Indonesians wiser. Maybe it is true that Indonesia is destined to be occupied by other nations/cultures – one way or another. Sad? yes, but that seems to be the truth.
God, open their eyes and minds.
For an interesting discussion on this issue have a look at the “Indonesia anonymus” site, specifically have a look at the entries titled “we are infidels” and 127 hatemails, VERY amusing.
As for the morality issue I will steal a quote from the past.
“We have, in fact, two kinds of morality side by side: one which we preach but do not practice, and another which we practice but seldom preach. ”
as for the FPI
“The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others. ”
Cheers
This will put Indonesia on the Worldmap, a trial for a person who is publishing a magazine with fully clothed women, while people who take the law into their own hands walk around free. This atmosphere of lawlessness surely won’t attract foreign people or investors, they will observe Indonesian developments argus-eyed.
Have they done anything to Popular’s editor? definitely the 2 magazines are in the same league.
Oh, I forgot, this is Indonesia, where the law bends down to the demand of anyone who speaks louder and threatens worse. Where everybody with money is above the law.
I guess if BOBO switched name to “Penthouse”, its editor would be sued, too for “damaging the morals of the nation”.
Andrew,
You are right, it’s all in the title. Erwin Arnada should have given the magazine another name like “Popular Electronics”, “Indonesian Medical Review” or “Homecooking”. Then ABB wouldn’t have even noticed.
That FPI dude who yelled out that it’s now a pornographic country probably went to get a copy himself. What a waste of money for the state, people with sanity knows that he’s not doing anything wrong. Not a smart thing to do, perhaps, but I don’t think he is doing anything wrong. I have seen the PB, it’s far tamer than other mags or tabloids. The people who should be prosecuted are those of FPI.
I have arrived here after reading the BBC story on the prosecution and subsequent release of the editor of ‘Playboy Indonesia’. I really wanted to write to the FPI directly but could not find an email address suitable, hence using a public BBS.
Devout Muslims and relgious people in general are such hypocrites! To make demands about a magazine that publishes photos of models who are paid and treated much better than the poor girls working the brothels frequented in secret by men of the cloth/book/church/mosque is just laughable! I am sure that if you asked every prostitute in every small town in Indonesia if any devout Muslim men had ever paid them for sex they would all say yes. Alawi Usman himself is probably one of the great users of young girls (or boys). He looks to be at the right age to engage in such pursuits.
Wake up dreamers. There is no God! Using your imaginary friend to persecute others is just cowardice.
Sincerly,
Alfred Yamasetra
How about changing the name of Playboy magazine into ‘FPI Telanjang Bulat’.
They will held praise to say that it must be good for them and their fellow followers.
You said well MK, thugs for hire.
These people don’t seemed to wake up.
During the NEw Order, there were so many magazines sold at Pasar Baru, Hayam Wuruk, Gajah Mada and we don’t seemed to see any of the MF FPI thugs around at that time.
To be honest. When a country legalize gambling in Singapore and elsewhere, prositutiton and pornography like the US. There is an intention to that. They want people to be more engross to such rather than politics. Under such condition, there isn’t much to politicize about therefore not much chaos. Unlike now, they restrict this and that, for a cause. POLITIC. Simple as that.
The real problem is that these people are no politicians, but merely figureheads covered showing off with envelopes passed to them.
Here is one very good example and this is before the riot.
When I was staying at the Mandarin Hotel right in front of the Bunderan HI. Those people came by busload and they are with military precision. Came after 10am and off at 5 pm. Shouting propagandas etc. Ya a days salary without having to work hard with food provided. That is also one way to make a living for a sad cause.
If the Indonesian government cannot do away with those FPI crap, then there is no peace to Indonesia. And stop saying that the Playboy annoys them. The least to say that guy in MPR, Golkar, Ma’ruf would be very happy with such publications in their bed I suppose.
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