160 Comments on “Yin & Yang: Bules & Pembantus”
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wildrosewood Says:
February 20th, 2010 at 9:58 pm@ Oigal: Ha ha ha ha….poppy, grand pa..isn’t life tough too as ex army in OZ, thts why u stick ur bloody arse here….kasiiiiaaaaannn deh lu opa….ha ha ha. I’m not flipped out of what u said to me..Ha ha ha. Giddy up grandpa!! Lol my ass off.
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emmfabulash Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 12:15 amCome on ladies and gentleman…
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sobhana Says:
February 21st, 2010 at 8:58 amok BS. because for a minute there i thought you were implying that the US is not as advanced as some would like to think because we have affluent minorities. actually my father is an american of dutch descent, but yea it has nothing to do with my typos =)
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Oigal Says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 amYawn…Wrong and boring….moving on..
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deta Says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 amI find the way some posters associating the word pembantu with ayam a little bit disturbing (unless it was ayam as the real animal they were talking about). Pembantu and Ayam are two totally different jobs as far as moral dignity and genital diseases concern. While some women choose the quickest way to earn money by serving random men on bed, the rest of them, who are as beautiful outside and more beautiful inside, would rather being pembantu who cook ayam instead of being one of them.
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ET Says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 amYou are right deta. I also prefer a cooked (or bakar or goreng) ayam to a raw one. Much healthier and tastier and it doesn’t need to be plucked and stripped before being consumed.
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February 22nd, 2010 at 11:23 amSeems that you’re familiar with ayam in any shape and kind..
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Dikkiman Sujengkol Says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:42 amWeren’t u2 supposed to get a room over the weekend ?
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February 22nd, 2010 at 11:50 amWeren’t u2 supposed to get a room over the weekend ?
As you can see from my gravatar, I prefer outdoor activities, thank you.
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February 22nd, 2010 at 11:55 amAs you can see from my gravatar, I prefer outdoor activities, thank you
If you prefer the outdoors we can always consume the ayam at midnight, in the dunes of the cape.
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David Says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm -
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:08 pmET, I knew you could read my mind.
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Philippe Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 8:03 pmHummm .. How can you call a dark skin short Indonesian woman a “pembantu” and no ones seems to react to that.? You are judging someone negatively to say, just by the way she looks and assume wrongfully that she is somewhat of a lower category woman.
I think its somewhat a primitive approach not to say racist to your own race, only the tall, white and long nosed woman deserve respect? If that was the case all foreign women would be beautiful, and that’s far from being true.
I think something is missing in your analysis of the problem, I do not think that you have any experience with foreign women, if you did you would appreciate what you have at home a little bit more.
The so called primitive low class uneducated pembantu most often have qualities and values that are very respectable and they highly qualify as a human beings, as much if not more than their foreign counterparts.
Judging a book by its cover will take you nowhere, as the article indicates it, and finishes with a big question mark, as would an unresolved and misunderstood enigma.
Philippe Jgja.
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rima Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 8:44 pmOf all the comments, the one that I read without cringing was those of Rob, Unspun and Philippe.
Dikkiman Sujengkol aka Ahmad is obviously having fun in reading the other responses despite his valid questions at the end of the article.
I find it unbelievable how some people can judge another’s class or worth based on their looks. Seriously, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and to me personally, someone can look as lovely as angelina jolie and hangs out with the most happening of crowd but when she is a foul mouthed arrogant woman who calls other women pembantu, ayam etc, she will instantly become the ugliest woman in my eyes, with no class whatsoever.
I think that all women are attractive, tall or short, dark or light skinned, thin or thick lipped, long or short haired, wavy/curly or straight, big or small. There is always at least one person who think that you are attractive, that’s just how it is.
It’s the same with those so-called bules. What’s wrong with foreigners coming to Indonesia and falling in love with the country, food and women? What’s wrong with them wanting to live in a tropical paradise with an exotic brown skinned woman who thinks the world of them? Nothing. Just as there is nothing wrong for Asians/Africans/Martians who go to western countries and fall in love with the locals and their way of life.
The attraction white foreigners feel towards the brown skinned Indonesian women is probably because of the ‘mysterious’ aura that surrounds us, the difference in culture, the fact that Indonesian women (the ‘real’ ones, not the westernized ones you can find in big cities) appear to be more submissive than their western counterparts (although that is not necessarily the case, the key word here being ‘appear’) , the pleasure we take in serving our men (to a certain degree, of course) and so on.
Maybe these white foreigners aren’t accustomed to this kind of treatment in their home country and upon meeting the dark skinned and dark haired Indonesian beauty who treat them differently than their fair skinned, golden hair lovelies back home they instantly fall for her, and who can blame them?
You know, if you look closely, Oprah winfrey, lauryn hill, angela basset, maggie gyllenhall, america ferrera, renee zellweger etc might have feature some can recognize in your typical ‘pembantu’ face (btw, I once had a pembantu who looks like SADE, she was hawt!) but nonetheless they are still all beautiful and accomplished women.
So get a grip people, beauty is relative, attraction between two people can sometimes seem to be puzzling and strange but when you get to know them, it can become as clear as day why one fell for the other (the julia roberts attraction to lyle lovett, anyone?), and only those without class call others names and judge them as people without class/lower class (probably because they instantly recognize it, being classless themselves).
Stop judging, and look at yourselves in the mirror first before you get the urge to.
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February 24th, 2010 at 9:25 pmHalo Mbak Rima Yth.,
Like Sukarno, I appreciate the Indonesian Woman in all her variety and incarnations. She is beautiful as Draupadi, wife of the Pandawa Brothers, and I would say Helen of Troy, but she was a bule and hairy greek, so I think the Pembantu is more beautiful.
So you think Oprah has Maid-Face of the Pembantu ?
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Odinius Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 10:21 pmRima said:
Dikkiman Sujengkol aka Ahmad is obviously having fun in reading the other responses despite his valid questions at the end of the article.
Yes, true. I am still waiting for discussion of this one:
Does Wiranto, Hanura chairman and retired general, wear a toupe ?
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rima Says:
February 24th, 2010 at 10:27 pmI think Oprah and the other beautiful ladies I mentioned above has a somewhat similar facial characteristics as these women:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/110092957_56f8b1a640.jpg?v=0
http://indonesiawomen-indonesiangirls.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/indonesia.jpg
http://exchanges.state.gov/uploads/88/lI/88lI6vD_kctp-Wxo1YdgKw/Indonesian_Women.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/244535598_1f901c91df.jpg
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20090628/maids.jpg
with small noses, high cheekbones, thicker lips etc, which is in no way less beautiful than today’s standard of beauty fed to us by the media, which is both misleading and really silly since maybe only 2% of the female population in the world look like heidi klum/miranda kerr/angelina jolie/insert your favorite female supermodel here.
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masgendut Says:
March 5th, 2010 at 1:48 pmI am a bule; I am married to an Indonesian woman and I live in Jakarta with my wife & son; so based on most of the above posts, I guess that means that you look down on us??? Call me sensitive but pseudo-intellectual tripe that amounts to racism is something that I personally find offensive. You are single handedly judging not only Bules based on their skin color but also poor hard working maids that only look for the opportunity to better their lives by working ridiculously long hours for almost no money. Shame on you. Let me guess, you come from a wealthy family, are fortunate enough to be educated in one of the privately funded universities that mummy and daddy paid for you to attend and you have a chip on your shoulder because you believe that ALL bules have it better then you. Boo Hoo, WTF get a life.
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March 5th, 2010 at 5:10 pmHi Masgendut,
Care to elaborate a bit further ?
Sounds like you have something to say, maybe the place to get it out ? (That said, this place can be a bit bareknucle, but if you do, don’t take it personally).
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justme Says:
March 7th, 2010 at 6:02 amI just have to say
99% of Kuta cowboys are UGLY! I don’t know what the attraction is?
feral!
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March 7th, 2010 at 11:34 amJustme,
And yet many Bulwom swim in that pond, or rather polluted part of the beach. Astaga and Aduhai !
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justme Says:
March 7th, 2010 at 12:00 pmMr Sujengkol … yes you are correct. If you scan facebook you will find plenty of the bule women and their kuta cowboys in the photos. The bule are drunk as skunks and the kuta cowboys are high on drugs, well they’d have to be to want to even touch one of those women.
Check out this page
search for Cowboys in Paradise
or view a video here
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=207364821820
let me know what u think
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Zorg Says:
March 7th, 2010 at 9:47 pm@ Justme
Lol, nice video…
Not that all those bule girls shown on the vid are as ugly as those Indonesian ‘stallions’ usually get… but they’re still not what I’d consider as ‘attractive’ ones. See how the piggish bellies are already farming the fat… the same probably occur in the skull, inwards.
Next post please: why Indonesian men are sooo attracted by ugly bule girls? ROFL
Gosh, when I read and see all this, I wonder if a brain is required to qualify as a Homo sapiens.
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justme Says:
March 8th, 2010 at 12:00 pmWhy are they attracted to ugly bule girls, thats something I cannot answer. Perhaps just gold digging, just like the local women??
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diego Says:
March 8th, 2010 at 12:17 pmNice video!
“I’ll just smile. No comment
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justme Says:
March 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pmwhile I think about it, whenever I visit Bali with my husband who is Javanese, we usually stay somewhere in Nusa Dua. There have been several times that the SATPAM have asked my husband if he is an actual guest of the hotel. I let them know what I thought of that.
You can always feel the eyes staring at you there, especially by other tourists that think your with a kuta cowboy for your holidays. Its my f*cking husband damn it!!
Jakarta seems to be more accepting except that foreign women married to Indonesians are less common. There is a support group for this as well. Most of the ladies in it are much older and have been married for over 20 years. There are very few “young” couples.
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March 8th, 2010 at 2:28 pmHI Dikkiman. Yes I have got something to say. As a foreigner who has lived in many different parts of Asia over 20 years ( I am not that old but I have been working as an expatriate since I was in my early 20′s) , it is always disappointing when people seem to just want to bring every argument back to skin color. Not only money, politics and religion but now sex! I agree that there are many older foreigners Caucasian, Asiatic and otherwise who come to countries like Indonesia & the Philippines just to shack up with a younger woman but do not stereo type us all the same. That makes you guys no better then the uneducated ignorant westerner who looks at all Indonesians and assumes that they are all poor. Or all muslims and assumes that we are all terrorist sympathizers. ( and yes I am a Muslim so don’t start on that). Or all mixed couples and assumes that it is just a local girl who is married to a foreigner for the money etc. Its offensive to those of us who are married and together because we love each other. Yeah OK a bit sappy but its the fact. And I can guarantee that there is a lot more people out there in mixed marriages that are together because of that than those that our friend wish’s to stereo type. Who cares if the girl or guy is not some one else’s ideal of beautiful. Who are they to judge me or my family. They don’t know me. But don’t get in the blogs or the press and pretend to be saying something important when it is just thinly disguised racism. If you want to make an impact in your society, start on something that is really important. Not BS like this. Your society allows for freedom of speech, a responsible citizen uses that freedom wisely.
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March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pmor view a video here
I can’t load the video. There’s a message
This video either has been removed from Facebook or is not visible due to privacy settings
Censorship by the Minister of Culture and Tourism?
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March 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pmMasgendut,
Many thanks. Taken onboard.
D. S.
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