103 Comments on “RUU Pornografi”
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Retarders says:
November 30th, 2006 at 3:52 amYeah… this law just simply means that all your porn collection in numerous formats will proceed to be donated to POLRI and members of DPR/MPR. (and some to Bang Rhoma Irama)
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Josef says:
November 30th, 2006 at 7:18 amAgain where in the koran does it talk about belly buttons.
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Rockstar says:
November 30th, 2006 at 10:00 amSigh, this is what we call, hmmpphh ah whatever.
Hahaha by the way does any of you think that Rhoma’s outfit when hes on the stage looks like that in dragon ball?
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December 1st, 2006 at 12:26 amShow us the pic, and we’ll judge.
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Orgindo says:
December 1st, 2006 at 12:33 ambunch of hypocrite. WHen do those politician stop using these kind of things to gain votes? definitely those parties that support that bill wont get my support next election given they keep doing things that i dont agree. I thought the party should voice the voter opinion rather than changing those program.
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Bas says:
December 1st, 2006 at 6:30 amI know 3 DPR deputy whose hobby is photographying nude women. They started with local girls then they get bored and pictured Russian and other Western prostitutes in Jakarta.
It’s a pity I have no white female friends in Jakarta who are willing to be pictured.. I could have made money with those 3 fellows…
I wonder if they will vote the bill. They will probably do…
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Miss Indo 07 says:
December 1st, 2006 at 9:07 amas if belly button were more important than lumpur lapindo,,
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Tomaculum says:
December 1st, 2006 at 12:18 pmMiss Indo 07:
it is the “mud” in their brain. They are so “mud”-ed, they can’t think about anything else.
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Miss Indo 07 says:
December 1st, 2006 at 10:47 pmTomaculum,,u’r soo right ^^
n they’re busy watching the sex video of their poor friend,, -
Charles says:
December 2nd, 2006 at 4:26 amThe bill says watching porn video is forbidden and it was misinterpreted by one of the parliament member so he did it as it is part of human rights. A very good example from a politician.
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si bibir mer says:
December 4th, 2006 at 9:10 amThey will not stop until budhist monk also required to wear jilbab!
What they are thinking actually? They want us to dress like ninja? Or ninja turtle? I prefer Power Rangers though!Hahahahahahaha. Idiot, these regulators might in turn another Yahya Zaini under a religious mask.
I bet, Yahya Zaini is one of the regulator enforcing RUU Pronokasi dan Pornografi!
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Faiz says:
December 4th, 2006 at 4:57 pmI believe they’re idea isn’t bad at all,
IMO they just addressed regulation to wrong direction,
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1ndra says:
December 4th, 2006 at 8:48 pmWell, just think what better, let the porn spread, poisoning our child’s mind or burn the porn to the ground?
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December 5th, 2006 at 2:39 amPutting RUU on extreme measure doesn’t guarantee that our child won’t get any access at porn. There is no guarantee that imposing this law instead of moral law will remove the price of porn. People would not do porn just because it is forbidden, not because it is WRONG. And people will do porn whenever there are chances.
Our children can get into porn not because there is no law against it. But i think it is more because how we teach our children. We better know our children than putting our effort in this law but at the same time neglecting them. (Read:Dont be hypocrite)
There are also problem that a porn to a person may not be porn to other people. So I think it is an act of arrogance to impose a certain standard to the whole community. If the law doesnt bother a lot of people, than it is okay, but imposing the what the current RUU propose is just the same with imposing the prohibition of Jilbab in Netherland. I guess, if RUU is imposed, NO ONE in this country would have right to protest the same thing that happen in Netherland because we are just doing the same thing. Check my entry.
It is unfair to impose a moral law on everyone. If you really want an analogy, RUU is just like banning cigarette smoking. We know cigarette is bad, right? Do we want our children to smoke? well, then let’s make a law against it, completely! stupid move, I said. I say it is better to teach our children why not to smoke.
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S. Mahmud says:
December 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pm“The long torturous journey of the RUU Pornoaksi and Pornografi is approaching its end.”
To me, this is hypocrisy in the real sense, first and foremost (yang pertama dan utama), discussion should be on how to abolish prostitution in our own country rather than discussing this topic in the DPR. Has anyone in Government and in the DPR/MPR ever thought of this? Our fellow Indonesian females are treated like a commodity to be bought and sold like cattle or sheep in Pasar Hewan, further more are treated without rights under the Undang-Undang of Indonesia.
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Achmad Sudarsono says:
January 19th, 2007 at 1:40 pmAnd of course, it doesn’t get around the uncomfortable fact that alot of young Indonesians are getting their porn from the internet. The bill seems to be silence on the question of the net. Probably because most of the DPR members are super-gaptech, only turning to the MMS functions on their mobile phone when a colleague gets busted doing the wild thing with a trashy dangdut singer.
Then there’s the question of the pornoaksi behaviour of DPR members themselves, who have more simpanan per capita than anywhere on earth. Good to see our tax money gets used wisely.
There’s an old saying: you can’t legislate morality.
My (conspiracy) theory is Indonesia has oil shortages because most of it goes to the hair products of the DPR — Zaenal – see above obviously has at least a few thousands barrels in that mane.
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Colson says:
January 19th, 2007 at 8:18 pmDresscode is just a matter of taste. Leave it alone. But I’ve to admit that plain pornography is not art. Maybe it’s dirt. But.
But, modern history learns a few lessons. In free market societies, if there’s a demand, there will be a market. Forbid hard liquor and you get the mob (US of A in the twenties) to do the job. Forbid drugs and drugtraffickers (Last twenty five years and the notorious “War on drugs”) make incredible profits. Forbid pornography, the appetite will remain the same, so the maffia will provide the service ( a prediction).
The penal law will create no less dirt, but a lot more crime.
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January 19th, 2007 at 8:25 pmWhy need a mafia when you can go to thousands of websites ?
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Fanglong says:
January 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pmThe penal law will create no less dirt, but a lot more crime.
Seemingly!
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Daryono says:
January 19th, 2007 at 10:43 pmYou all seem to be missing the point about what our legislators are trying to do. It is not about showing belly buttons; the point is if we start there; then we will send a signal to our young women that it is acceptable to walk around nearly naked; without shame as women do in places like Australia and America. If we don’t do something about it; then our religion and culture will have become obsolete and we will have no national identity left. We are Indonesians and we have to protect that against the onslaught of Western dominated cultural globalization. Some young Indonesian girls are already walking around in shopping malls in our cities dressed like prostitutes.
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January 19th, 2007 at 10:48 pmI am sorry, but i don’t really get it here, do we still have culture? What is our culture? which one should we maintain? is that the one that shamelessly raping people in May 1999? Tell me, is that the result of pornographic material?
There is nothing left to maintain I think. The world has changed, face it. this is the result of democracy and freedom. It all comes in one package. And btw, stop judging girl in Australia and America. Not because they are better, but jsut because I think we are worse. Be a little idealistic and more realistic.
National identity, huh?
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Oh ya, do you really honestly believe that those our the purpose of our legislator? To maintain our culture, to stop our country from moral damage? If you do, then I think they have done a good job again, to ensure getting your vote. That’s what most politician do..
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January 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pmSomeone seems to be offended by sexy Australian ( American, European, Nigerian, Balinese) women.
Funny. Religious moralists often seem to be obsessed by, as well as afraid of sex. They usually address women to behave decent, to hide their femininity, to be docile. But, in as far as I know, if there’s a problem at all, it’s the men not the women who are the main culprits. Seems to be related to the diferent amounts of testosteron.
I love mankind. But above all I love women. Especially the sexy ones.
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Andrew says:
January 20th, 2007 at 12:35 amIt is not about showing belly buttons; the point is if we start there; then we will send a signal to our young women that it is acceptable to walk around nearly naked; without shame as women do in places like Australia and America.
Daryono, tell me where exactly in Australia and America you saw that – I’m sure a lot would love to see that (whether or not they want to admit it).
Oh and by the way, I remember seeing barebreasted women – young and old – walk around on Bali streets…. I never knew Bali was part of Australia or America.
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January 20th, 2007 at 1:33 amDaryono, you naughty old boy with your imagination!!!
What about Bali?
Andrew you’re right. Till the 70-ies (and maybe longer) we could see many bare breasted women in Bali and you wouldn’t say that they are shameless, would we?
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January 20th, 2007 at 2:01 amTomaculum – I was in Bali’s countryside in 2002 when I saw that. It was still a common sight, and no one lust for what they see, I wouldn’t think. I believe this is also common in Lombok.
And what about those tribes in Irian? sure, people call them “primitive”, but aren’t they part of Indonesia as well? We can’t have Irian only for their gold and copper mines, we need to treat them as family as well. The men walk around wearing koteka and the women do house chores bare-breasted – that can’t be called “pornography”, can it?
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January 20th, 2007 at 2:08 amYeah, Andrew, as I have written in this blog in the past (at an other topic):
Pornography exists in our brain.
Yeah, if our brain is full of scummy minds, then we will see pornography every where.
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January 21st, 2007 at 12:29 amIt saddens me to read that people; some of whom are Indonesians; are asking if we still have a culture. Of course it is the duty of our legislators to protect the moral values that are our culture.
The Balinese and the Papuans are not Muslims and we are talking about women showing their breasts in very primitive village areas where they don’t know any better. They do not do it to deliberately arouse the lust of men. I am talking about Indonesia as a whole when I talk about how women should dress. The majority of our legislators are abiding by the teachings of Islam; which, with respect to all; is the word of God almighty.
The Balinese have in fact been corrupted by Western pornographic values. Many young Balinese men have become gigolos for the disgusting pleasure of fat old Australian women who are looking for free sex that they would never get at home.
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Mei says:
January 21st, 2007 at 12:48 amHey guys..
What is the danger of wearing additional 5cm of cotton to cover up some part of your body?
You’re talking like this is a big deal (-_-) -
January 21st, 2007 at 1:23 amDaryono,
The Balinese have in fact been corrupted by Western pornographic values. Many young Balinese men have become gigolos for the disgusting pleasure of fat old Australian women who are looking for free sex that they would never get at home.
As far as I know, many of the gigolos in Bali come from other parts of Indonesia (Java, Sumatra etc), but myabe you have better sources than me.
The Balinese and the Papuans are not Muslims and we are talking about women showing their breasts in very primitive village areas where they don’t know any better.
Isn’t it a “little bit” arrogant to name other cultures as primitive?
“Primitive” is a subjective label used to imply that one thing is less sophisticated or less advanced than some other thing. Being a comparative word it is also relative in nature.
What about if someone marks your way of thinking as primitive?
I am talking about Indonesia as a whole when I talk about how women should dress.
And Bali and Papua aren’t parts of Indonesia? And about which women? Do you as a man want to decide how the women have to dress? Because a man is “designated by God to be leader of women”? My, my, Daryono !
The majority of our legislators are abiding by the teachings of Islam; which, with respect to all; is the word of God almighty.
Isn’t it better if most of Indonesian legislators are abiding the teachings of humanity and of all of religions, which are, with respect to all, Daryono, words of God the merciful?
It saddens me to read, that people, Indonesians, don’t know, that the beautifull and various cultures are running the risk of being uniformed. And it saddens me to know that people, Indonesian, look down on the culture of their brothers and say that they are primitive.
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January 21st, 2007 at 1:46 amDaryono you sound more and more like Hitler. You think your race, civilization, religion is above others. One big difference is that Hitler made himself known to the world with his actions (albeit negatively), and all you do is pathetically complain in this forum.
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