30 Comments on “Omaigot Tengkyu!”
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Chris says:
May 24th, 2010 at 3:45 pmI know it’s not actually the same idea/principle, but I also read in “The People Next Door” about this one:
(For the uninitiated, a “cat oven” is a car spray-paint shop. So it isn’t hard to find a sign like “Bengkel & Cat Oven”.)
Others I have heard recently include:
Toga – black academic graduation gown, not Ancient Greek clothes
Sori, ya – sorry, seems to be replacing “Ma’af” or “Permisi”
Jangan selalu negative thinking, dong!
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deta says:
May 24th, 2010 at 4:44 pmOmaigot, I wouldn’t let my cat near that bengkel!
Even worse, we insert prefix or suffix into those terms, like:
Fesbukan (using facebook)
Ye-eman (using yahoo messenger)
Ngedonlod (downloading)
Ngimel (sending an e-mail)And of course, combined with sundanese, we have:
Tararengkyu (thank you so much)
Hararepi (everybody is happy)
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madrotter says:
May 24th, 2010 at 5:37 pmi like those sundanese ones! they are not pikasebleun at all!
and i keep finding these little red creatures in my garden, they might be deadly, anybody knows?
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madrotter says:
May 24th, 2010 at 5:40 pmthey’re around 20 centimeter long and they don’t have a betekok at all…
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Hans says:
May 25th, 2010 at 12:55 amI often get messages like this, and understand absolutely nothing.
Huh! PGen cPet2 pNdFtrn, trZ dtRma d SmaneLa (amen). AYow EZT ndang buDhaL Bali Nang. Q da kGen bGet mA Sodara ad3k2 q YG d tmpt2 wsta + Bali + Bali kulinariska kyckling Khaz betutu smbeL kcAnG BwanGx ma. Elka ma Sahal, SBR yach tUngGuiN mbAg ditha, q kGen BRT mRka nie ma! Huh!
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madrotter says:
May 25th, 2010 at 1:41 amhahaha i get that with some of these smsses that i get
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May 25th, 2010 at 8:07 amI don’t know exactly the name of that snake, Madrotter, but you can always call it “si borokokok”. We use that to refer to an annoying species, including human
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Chris says:
May 25th, 2010 at 10:24 amand frowns upon the use of “online”, instead using daring (from dalam jaringan).
Rather confusingly, “Online” can also have a couple of other meanings in Indonesia:
1. Engaged/On another call.
So when the person you want to speak to is “sedang online”, the receptionist doesn’t mean using the phone line for the Internet.2. “Online booking”
Can mean booking via phone/sms, before Internet (or blackberry) booking. Was particularly common with Garuda and Merpati.And can somebody explain to me how Hunting came to mean “Call Centre” or “Receptionist”? It says that in the phone directory/yellow pages all the time for larger companies.
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May 25th, 2010 at 4:18 pmAnd can somebody explain to me how Hunting came to mean “Call Centre” or “Receptionist”? It says that in the phone directory/yellow pages all the time for larger companies.
As far as I know, “hunting” is a facility provided by Telkom for those who have two or more telephone lines. By simply calling the “hunting number” or the main number, callers will automatically be connected to one of the telephone numbers that are not used (free). So, I think the term comes from the idea that the caller is “hunting” a free line.
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madrotter says:
May 25th, 2010 at 6:00 pmi lik e “indehoi” which is an indonesian term for making out, it’s dutch and means in the hay (like a roll in the hay)…
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Ross says:
May 26th, 2010 at 1:51 pmIt’s the heppy mispronunciation of happy, and similar, like ‘tengks’ for thanks, that gets me. Why can’t they use an A properly, as it is part of the language here. Nobody says Jelen Jekse or Feletehen. So I must assume it’s how people here hear Aussie or Yank accents, as Ulster-Scots, home or away, call an A an A!
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Tence says:
May 26th, 2010 at 2:05 pmMost of those words mentioned in the article were introduced during the Dutch era and can hardly be called English. For instance ‘demokrasi’ comes from the Dutch ‘democratie’ not the English ‘democracy’ (which both are derived from Greek actually)
These terms have been there for decades, some even centuries. I can imagine you disapprove of ‘tengkyu’ in the language, but would you really want to substitue words like president or the very ‘English’ coup d’etait (kudeta)
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TheWrathOfGrapes says:
May 27th, 2010 at 12:01 pm/// For example Ivan eschews the use of “email”, substituting it with surel (an acronym from surat elektronik or electronic mail) ///
How original is “elektronik”?
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realest says:
May 27th, 2010 at 4:56 pmFree man -> Preman == local bully
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Guna2 says:
May 27th, 2010 at 10:55 pmQuite right, Tence, of the examples mentioned in the first quotation, only publik servis, professional, and strategik planning are English, and the latter should be spelled plening. Them Anglobloodysaxons still think they rule the waves.
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venna says:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:31 am@Guna2:
Where you got your avatar?? I thought there was a bug in my screen and I almost wiped it! -
justme says:
May 29th, 2010 at 5:38 amah lu semua kurang gaul dech!!!
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May 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pmSori, gue emang ga demen kelabing (clubbing)
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realest says:
May 30th, 2010 at 1:10 amI also thought there was a bug on my screen. Guna2, your avatar is going to my image collection
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BrotherMouzone says:
May 31st, 2010 at 7:00 pmFor example Ivan eschews the use of “email”, substituting it with surel (an acronym from surat elektronik or electronic mail)
Isn’t that a bit redundant when “Electronik” is an English word also?
I am waging my own crusade against the influx of Indonesian words into the English dictionary. We should ban words such as Satay and Orangutan and replace them with good old fashioned English versions such as “Strimeaticks” (Stringy meat on sticks) and “Ginkeys” (Ginger Monkeys).
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June 1st, 2010 at 10:42 amThe fact is Bahasa Indonesia or Bahasa Malaysia is inadequate for modern use.
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K says:
June 1st, 2010 at 8:18 pmoh hello, that’s my uncle Ivan up there…. I didnt know he’s such a die-hard supporter of indonesian language.
I went to Malaysia recently and felt awkward about their “kata serapan”… Like stesen for station, imigresen for immigration, and epal for apple (I seriously dont know how to read that one, so I read it like e-pal… like in paypal
)…. Anyways, bahasa Malaysia/Indonesia seems outdated because the inventions are not in those language. Doesn’t mean that it’s inadequate to use anymore… All languages in this world will derive from each other at one point. Like Chinese’s ke kou ke le for coke, or Japanese’s detto for date, or even the English word ‘cave’, from the Arabic ‘kahf’ (I think…? Correct me if I’m wrong). So, there. Though, I do use OMG dragon A LOT when i was in high school. Yes, it’s from “astaga naga” lol…
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Guna2 says:
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:46 pmK: All languages in this world will derive from each other at one point.
And English has done so more than any other language: “…by 1500 the language had incorporated tens of thousands [of words]. Eventually it would become the most etymologically multilingual language on earth” (David Crystal, The Stories of English, Allen Lane, 2004)
An inadequate language, T?@venna a.o.: No idea were I stole the bug avatar. Pretty irritating, isn’t it? I’ll keep it.
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mommo says:
June 5th, 2010 at 7:42 amBefore snearing at others weakness, Mr Patung, look at yourself! All the words you mention as english are actually derived from latin or ancient greek.
Here is the list right?
proses, frustrasi, delegasi, kampanye, kudeta, informasi, problem, sistem, presiden, partisipasi, strategik planning, sosial, politik, ekonomi, stimuli, relatif, stres, konsultasi, telepon, professional, krisis, teori, diskusi panel, prinsip, publik servis, agresif, demokrasi, objektivitas, fakta, jargon, …..
I don’t see one proper english word in these…. So I guess we too can sneer at english people using and adapting words foreign to their culture!
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David says:
June 5th, 2010 at 7:55 amMr Mommo, there was no sneering at all, the post is about
Inglonesian terms and expressions, battles against their use, and examples.
Nor any suggestion of weakness. I was quoting Duncan Graham with the first examples, and there was no sneering from him either.
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Guna2 says:
June 5th, 2010 at 8:21 ammommo (PM) says: All the words you mention as english are actually derived from latin or ancient greek.
No they weren’t, they were derived from Dutch (apart from the few exceptions I mentioned above). Just have a look at the word endings. Ultimately, they are from Latin and ancient Greek, of course. And French, in one case.
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Winmar says:
June 6th, 2010 at 10:05 amIs there a language that borrows from others more than Indonesian/Malay these days? Sometimes it makes me laugh, other times cringe.
When I was last over in January there were billboards everywhere with “jangan lebay plis!” on them. Someone explained what it meant, but the meaning escapes me now.
That bug avatar is annoying as all hell!
Where can I get a cat oven?
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Chris says:
June 7th, 2010 at 7:34 amWhere can I get a cat oven?
There’s one near my place, if you’re passing by any time soon…
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Tukiyem says:
June 10th, 2010 at 11:23 pmAdd one more word which is very popular in Kaskus: CEKIDOT —> Check it out. Javanese English.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:03 pm@Winmar: Does it really matter if a language borrows other languages? I think, the fact that they managed to localise the borrowed language itself have proven that the original culture of that society is still deeply rooted within. I mean, there’s no right or wrong in language itself, right? And actually, English itself was constructed from different languages all over the world. Nothing’s wrong with that, right? At one point, everything is so intertwined that it’s just weird to discuss who had this word and who had that word first.
Jangan lebay plis means don’t overact please… Or something like that, lol…. Lebay means “too much”, could be applied in everything intangible. Lebay. Such a weird word
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