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Sharia Complaints

Oct 26th, 2006, in IM Posts, by

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14 Comments on “Sharia Complaints”

  1. avatar Bradlymail says:
    October 26th, 2006 at 3:09 pm

    i against sharia law. I don’t want to see wide gap between Muslim and non-Muslim. Indonesia is a secular country.sharia law will creates disaster to Muslim too !

  2. avatar Andrew says:
    October 26th, 2006 at 8:34 pm

    I’m with Bradlymail. Sharia may not impact non-Muslims, but implementing the law is similar to declaring that Indonesia is an Islamic republic.

    Indonesia is a country whose majority of the population is Muslim, but it is NOT an Islamic republic.

  3. avatar ak says:
    October 27th, 2006 at 11:14 am

    hear hear! I agree with bradymail and Andrew.

  4. avatar Czeslaw says:
    October 29th, 2006 at 2:29 am

    Problems with sharia, as a base of judicary entity. It is supposed to be a religious doctrine, not a judicial law. Koran itself is confusing, no logical order, anybody can and will make money on twisting the koran. All mullahs and all ayatollahs make money on that principal.

    Problem 1. Sharia is a man created manipulative tool, to manipulate others.
    Problem 2. Sharia can be interpreted differently for Muslim and non Muslim, protecting Muslims, as an orginal owners of this product
    Problem 3. How many constitutional laws will conflict with sharia?
    Problem 4. Will non Muslim have to leave country, in order to avoid to be subjected to the sharia abuse?
    Problem 5. Why it need to be another Muslim doctrine forced onto non Muslim population of Indonesia?

    Why Indonesia spend some time to develop some economic program that will benefit Muslims and non Muslims in Indonesia, rather than falling back to the stone age falacy?

    What, the next step will be, why not coming back the stoning or hanging of raped women?

    Islam is world’s sickness…

  5. avatar Karlira Kanakahuko says:
    October 30th, 2006 at 1:53 pm

    All of you guys are perfectly the most excellent in the whole universe. Sharia is done only by devils who came into the Earth in the personalities of Indonesian imperialist Muslims. Indonesia really unify perfectly, if Islam in entire Indonesia really completely eradicated.

  6. avatar Tomaculum says:
    October 30th, 2006 at 3:49 pm

    Why beating around the bush, isn’t it clear enough?
    The target is to end the secularism and to proclaim Indonesia to a Muslim state.
    An Indonesian friend of mine said (he is a faithfull Moslem): after 350 years dutchman repression then 3 years japanese exploitation. Barely we reach a better life, now the next conquest already stands before the door.
    And when the problems still exist, the next bad guy and the next foe of the enemy will be surely easily found.

  7. avatar Andrew says:
    October 30th, 2006 at 9:55 pm

    Tomaculum, I’m afraid that would be similar to “let’s cut the head off and see if it cures the illness”

  8. avatar Czeslaw says:
    October 31st, 2006 at 2:49 am

    Indonesians, wake up, open your eyes!

    Majority of Indonesia are Muslims, more than 80%(?).
    Government run by Muslims.
    Civil law doesn’t exists. No judiciary establishment.
    Islamic principals rule as per attorney general Saleh. “…if these man will not be executed, it will violate Islamic principals…” That is the prove that judiciary establishment is non existent.
    Muslims are beheading school girls in Indonesia. I’ve seen pictures.
    Muslims are burning non-Islamic houses of prayers.
    Muslims are killing non-Muslim clergy.

    Indonesia, you are in worst shape that you admit. Why live in self denies?

    You are under Islamic sword, like Persia, Iraq, Pakistan, Palestine etc., and that is the bottom line.

    First of all, you have make diagnostic of the illness before you prescribe a medicine, as we did in Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Latvia. We acknowledge, that we were infected with the communist virus. Then we sought the medicine for it. We applied the right medicine to the right illness. It took thousands and thousands of human lives to do it. There was no other medicine for this communist virus. Islam, like communism is a virus, and it will take thousands and thousands of human lives like Mr. DeSilva, Mr. Riwu, Mr Tibo, and many unnamed and unknown Indonesian heroes who were murdered by Islamists in Indonesia. Islam and communism are twin death viruses. They use this same tactics, same propaganda, and same way are murdering non-complaint people like Indonesians, Polish, Czechs, Hungarians, Yugoslavians, Litwa, Persians, Palestinians, etc..

    In order for Indonesia to gain freedom from Islamic sword, Indonesians have to pay the price up front, as we did. No other way around it. And it will take and countless casualties. No other way around.

  9. avatar Erwin says:
    November 2nd, 2006 at 12:05 pm

    Czeslaw Says:

    October 31st, 2006 at 2:49 am.

    Indonesians, wake up, open your eyes!

    Majority of Indonesia are Muslims, more than 80%(?).
    Government run by Muslims.
    Civil law doesn’t exists. No judiciary establishment.
    Islamic principals rule as per attorney general Saleh. “”¦if these man will not be executed, it will violate Islamic principals”¦” That is the prove that judiciary establishment is non existent.
    Muslims are beheading school girls in Indonesia. I’ve seen pictures.
    Muslims are burning non-Islamic houses of prayers.
    Muslims are killing non-Muslim clergy.

    I just don’t understand, if the victims are non-Moslems why then SBY-Kalla government executed non-Moslems Tibo and his friends?
    The perpetrators of this barbaric act must be the beard men! No doubt about that!

  10. avatar Hassan says:
    November 7th, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    maybe because the culprit’s are also non Muslims like tibo cs? excuse me, that’s just my honest conclusion..

    czeslaw: maybe the world’s sickness is not Islam, maybe it’s Christianity. Christians had been killing more human beings since it’s introduction 2,006 years ago. you can give all the reasoning in the world, but that’s the fact.

    and how would Indonesian Muslims “gain freedom from Islamic sword, Indonesians have to pay the price up front”. how would that work? Indonesian Muslims should kill ourselves? hey, according to you, we are the virus. calling other people and other faiths as “virus” reminds me of the words of some fascists some decades ago in germany and italy.

    tell me, are you a fascist czeslaw?

    had your grandfather worked for the third reich or something?

  11. avatar 1ndra says:
    November 7th, 2006 at 10:45 pm

    If Tibo cs are hero (by involved in killing people), then there’re Bali Bombers too…heroes.

  12. avatar Bradlymail says:
    November 8th, 2006 at 8:32 am

    Indra if they were involved in killing they were criminals!!!

  13. avatar Andrew says:
    November 9th, 2006 at 12:04 am

    Nobody but Tibo cs. themselves (and God, of course) knows whether Tibo cs. committed the act, so no matter how hard we want to beat the already dead horse, we won’t get the answer. Tibo cs. are heroes to some of us, and criminals to others.

    The Bali bombers, on the other hand, ADMITTED that they did it (not to mention that they are actually proud of it) – so there is no question that they are lowly crooks.

    Unless someone has a different definition of the word “hero”, that is.

  14. avatar James Carella says:
    March 22nd, 2007 at 11:56 pm

    Hassan sounds like a typical Muslim. Blaming Christians for all that is wrong. One must ask a simple question. How many non-Muslim people are linning up to enter Muslim countries and reversely How many Muslims are linning up to enter Non-Muslim countries. I can assure you that there are at least 100 times more Muslims trying to enter non-Muslim countries than Non-Muslims trying to enter Muslim countries. That tells you that leaving all the reoteric aside as bad as Christianity is it is 100 times better than Islam. These are factually and have nothing to do with reoteric.



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