Depravity, Decadence & Punishment

Nov 29th, 2009, in News, by

Tifatul SembiringPunishment for sin, a minister blames disasters on depravity & corruption of Indonesians.

Minister for Communications & Information Tifatul Sembiring speaking in Padang, West Sumatra on 27th November to the victims of the recent earthquake in the province which killed 1,000 odd people said that all the natural disasters Indonesia had suffered in recent years were partly caused by moral depravity and decadence.

Giving a sermon to mark Idul Adha day Tifatul, who is a leader of the Partai Keadilan Sejahtera/Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) said the string of disasters and earthquakes at Garut, Tasikmalaya, Cianjur and West Sumatra, were due to people sinning willy nilly, without obeying God’s commandments, and no longer fearing Him.

As proof of the general immorality of Indonesians these days he said there were at least 500 porn videos in compact disc format on the market that were produced by Indonesians, and 70% of them ‘starred’ students. Immoral television programmes were also to blame, he said.

Apart from pornography, other signs of the immorality of the people were seen in the ease with which the courts were corrupted, and the existence of the profession of “case broker” (Markus) in the legal system.

In addition to earthly punishments such as earthquakes and floods, a terrible vengeance lay in wait for such corrupt and immoral people on Judgement Day, said the minister, when their mouths would be covered and their hands and legs would involuntarily tell of what they had done on earth. antara

Meanwhile, on the issue of pornography, he further said that within six months new government regulations would be issued based on the anti-pornography law, which would see internet access to porn sites blocked vivanews

Once the laws are ready all porn sites will be closed off.

He did not say whether this was likely to reduce the incidence of earthquakes in Indonesia.


73 Comments on “Depravity, Decadence & Punishment”

  1. avatar David says:

    Awww, you’re much more the tech guy than me, ….think phpmyadmin…I don’t make a habit of it though.

  2. avatar bs says:

    If you limit the voting to only users that are logged in, Diego (and others) can’t cheat by using anonymizers or tor.

  3. avatar Oigal says:

    Well no one can say we don’t stray off topic…btw anyone elses’s You Tube blocked or have the forces of evil tracked me down πŸ™‚

  4. avatar David says:

    Speedy not blocking youtube…

  5. avatar ET says:

    @ Achmad

    As for insensitive – alot of disaster victims themselves believed the same thing as Sembiring. Are they, picking up their lives from the rubble, insensitive to themselves ?

    Yes, they are because they are so obviously brainwashed that they even believe this bullshit and let themselves be talked into a guilt complex for things beyond their comprehension. Wouldn’t it be better for them to adopt a different stance and do something for protection against earthquakes and other natural disasters like is done in other parts of Asia?

    Alot of people in Indonesia believe in God, Oigal.

    But also in different gods. I have never heard Hindus blaim themselves for Shiva’s destructions.

  6. avatar ET says:

    @ bs

    OOT, but do you realize that your gravatar can be considered ‘pornographic’ – at least for Indonesian standards – depending on how you look at it?

    But rest assured, it doesn’t bother me at all.

  7. avatar bs says:

    @ET
    Maybe, depending on how you look at it πŸ˜‰

  8. avatar ET says:

    So it’s not my imagination after all. What a relief.

  9. avatar Nay says:

    I just think that it’s funny that they are equating prostitution with “free sex”. The logic is wonderfully laughable.

    Prostitution specifically involves a transaction of money (in fact, so does marriage in certain countries). I don’t want to equate marriage with prostitution, however where there’s money involved and a woman becomes the “man’s wife” (note the possessive use of the term)… we are talking about sex that must be PAID FOR in some respect.

    So which is it? You can’t rally against prostitution and free sex at the same time!
    No wonder men and women have trouble relating to each other when there’s this contradiction shoved down to everyone!

  10. avatar bs says:

    Although you’re right that when translating “seks bebas” to “free sex” the meaning of the term changes a bit, but I think you get the idea.
    I find it annoying too, just like using “refreshing” for recreation, hepi for happy, etc.

    But this thread is going way off topic now …

  11. avatar ET says:

    Nay said

    So which is it? You can’t rally against prostitution and free sex at the same time!

    If ‘free sex’ means I don’t have to pay then I’m all for it.

  12. avatar Wien AriBur says:

    Indonesia is so deep sinking in moral depravity and decadence so that the people let a freak and religious fanatic like Tifatul Sembiring be one of their leaders.

  13. avatar Oigal says:

    NG. You need to study the economic dynamics of your own country. Java is a net importer of all its power, food and without the provinces of Sumatera, Papua, Kalimantan and others would be nothing more than another failed state relying on world aid to survive.

    The fact Java is clinging to a Dutch constuct as a nation would indicate that perhaps it would be smarter to drop the arrogance and show a little more respect to those that feed and clothe her.

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