20 Comments on “Zulkieflimansyah & Marissa Haque”
-
Julita says:
October 15th, 2006 at 12:07 amSounds very, very, very good, I vote for Zulkieflimansyah. Oh, I hope people do not look at the cover of the book but the content, I also hope Zul will be doing as he said. Who knows Banten will be the one giving the correct example to other parts of Indonesia.
-
Nona says:
October 15th, 2006 at 6:17 amsory, i dont vote for man with two wife.
-
Hassan says:
October 15th, 2006 at 4:07 pmi’d rather vote for a man with two, three, or even four wives than a man with only one wive but having 4 mistresses. 2 legally maried wives is much more dignified than one wive plus God knows how many extra marital affairs.
-
October 16th, 2006 at 2:41 amTwo wives?????????????? Sorry, give me back my ballot.
-
Anonymous_aloy says:
October 16th, 2006 at 8:43 amSorry, I’ll never vote a man with more than one wive.
It tells you a lot about how low his views on women is. Taking advantage of an archaic law from a bygone era just because it’s legal is not dignified, it’s corrupt, and in this case very degrading.
It’s an embarrasment to progressive minded, 21th century, moderate Muslims everywhere. It’s a shame too for all the disillusioned women who support him.
-
Hassan says:
October 16th, 2006 at 5:23 pmwhy does Muslim women concern themselves too much on polygamy, while it’s the rise of adultery we should worry about. polygamy is a legal practice in Islamic law (the Quran did not prohibit it, given the maximum is four), while adultery is not.
in fact, polygamy has it’s practical benefits in our society today (where there are more men than women) if compared with monogamy.for Muslims and non Muslims out there, open this Christian page to find out more: http://www.samchapman.f2s.com/ppractic.htm
-
Ali says:
October 16th, 2006 at 10:53 pmOff topic, but this topic reminds me of my Junior High teacher.
Her condescending comment on Ronald Reagan as the president of the U.S. at that time:“What kind of country is that, everyone can be a president. Even a movie star can be a president. Look at Indonesia, over here, only someone who fought for the country’s independence can make president.”
God, she must have been an idiot.
If anyone who fought for US independence ran for president in the 80s, he or she would have been 200+ years old. -
Molisan Tono says:
October 17th, 2006 at 12:10 pmhaving two wife is legal adultery according Islam. act of sins covered by religious term. what a sad and painful reality…
-
October 17th, 2006 at 4:31 pmlegal adultery? no, it’s legal, period. adultery is having extra marital affairs. marrying more than one women is not an extra marital affair, because the men marry them. have you read my link tono? it’s a Christian website.
if in the UK there are 1.2 million more women than men, imagine that numbers worldwide. there would be millions of women who will be unable to find a husband. and all we can say to them is: “don’t worry, not getting married for the rest of your live isn’t that bad!” yeah, really?
how about if those millions of women who were unable to find a mate then decides to commit adultery to fulfill their biological needs?? imagine the high rate of adultery there would be if that happens..
don’t just think philosophically, think practically.
-
October 17th, 2006 at 8:41 pmGood try guys, there are other believe which allow more than one wife. This is practical for a husband, especially when one get older. The wives can work and earn money for him. Have you heard of wives going to the market selling their crops and husband doing cock fight. See!
-
October 18th, 2006 at 5:16 amJulita: “The wives can work and earn money for him. Have you heard of wives going to the market selling their crops and husband doing cock fight” oh really? most men that have more than one wives are required tobe (and usually are) financially secure. so nice try with the ‘women slavery’ gimmick.
-
October 18th, 2006 at 9:42 amHassan..
what practical to me is control sex drive. do you know how hard our government try to educate Indonesian people how to manage their sex drive? yes, government has failed but it is not of their fault… it’s the lack of how to control sex and birth rate.now, by that silly reason. you and your religion consider it’s a very best way and alternative to marry a man for second or third or even tenth wife. and hey, it’s legal….
if that case so simple that is… than God from the very start… the ages of creation… He supposed to create Eve1… Eve2… Eve3… Eve4 and… so on.
-
October 18th, 2006 at 9:59 pmLook into the world, women are treated worse than that, just selling crops in the market is nothing and as about men’s leisure habits is not the issue here, you can change as you wish golf, TV, bridge and their women working in the office.
The issue is when polygamy in general becomes legal. The heart-ache it caused his wives and children, can he really give a good father’s figure to all those children he brought into the world(they sometime have problem with just one or two in the family). Where is “Till death do us part? And how about if the man find another pretty, poor(for excuse?), young woman. He might have to put away one of the four, will he let her go with 1/5 of his property or is it ‘Habis Manis Sepah Dibuang?” Heart-ache my friend, no love. If this is the case I hope that somebody like “Raden Ajeng Kartini’ (by this I don’t mean Indonesia but anywhere) be reborn.to help women. -
October 19th, 2006 at 11:24 amfunny though…. my fella Hassan is thinking backward.
sometime, things in our ancestor past can’t be apply so simple in modern days… take a good example… when a person cought in his/ her act, found guilty, in those time… this person should be dead by stoning… can you apply that law now? can you simply say… this is according to Quran or what so ever?Quran or Bible is the ages of God’s law… modern day, there’s human law. simply follow the law dude… if the law failed… follow the other one. until there’s no law can justify… then you might have permit to do God’s law.
according to my observation… your great prophet Mohammed is applying polygami to generate the promises of God. the same promise father Abraham has received from God. so i assume that ok in that time… but these days? hey, this world builded for human… not rabbit. stop breeding like rabbit.
-
October 20th, 2006 at 6:03 amMolisan Tono: “Quran or Bible is the ages of God’s law”¦ modern day, there’s human law. simply follow the law dude”¦”
well, where did your allegiance stands? to man made law, or God’s law? who do you think is the best law-maker, humans or your God? who can best understands justice, humans or your God? you need to answer those questions my friend. don’t answer them to me, but to your conscience.
about the controlling sex drive, well as I had said that in the UK alone there are 1.2 million more women than men, imagine that numbers worldwide. there would be millions of women who will be unable to find a husband. should we say to them this?: “don’t worry, not getting married for the rest of your live isn’t that bad!”
those women who could not get a husband should control their sex drive all their lives?? that’s not fair. how about if someone told you to do that? “no (legal) sex till you die!”
-
indri says:
November 23rd, 2006 at 1:19 pmWho is his second wife by the way? Men with more than one wife tend to be dishonest, because the requirement to be ‘adil’ amongst the wives is not easy for them. Quran says nobody is able to be ‘adil’ amongst the wives however hard they try. That’s why the Quran says that one wife is better. So: governor with one wife is better?
-
Parvita says:
November 28th, 2006 at 7:51 pmIt’s interesting to see how the subject of “Zul and Marissa” changes to poligamy. And it’s interesting to see Molisan Tono always can make any kind of discussion to corner Islam. Ck…Ck…Ck…
Banten is a nice district and it is rich. I hope whoever wins will be able to make Banten powerful and beautiful. Somehow, I feel pessimistic about it but lets think positive that they are not just going to benefit themselves from being a governor. Ameeeennn….
-
100%secular says:
December 2nd, 2006 at 5:52 pmHi Guys,
Do u know his second wife? she is a very prominent professor in very reputable university in well-advanced foreign country and, interestingly, ex-heartfelt feminist proponent that cessed to so as to be his second wife. How to say, then? God-damned Love is blind, man…. Can be not rationalized, then? so to say, kind of the mixed meeting of heart and mind. One can not pretend to be something that he/she could not afford. Just cheer-up, be happy, don’t be emotional and make a world better. It’s a 100% secular principle. Btw, is he committed to what is supposed to his ‘two legal married wifes’? If yes, he is at least a man of principle.
-
Hera says:
December 5th, 2006 at 7:56 amI vote for both of them , I prefer to build the Banten to be better province for people who live there in general , I concern with alot people who need the better leader more educated , strong basic life of fundamental , open minded , about the personal life it’s depend on the person , I just need Banten , people complain because they unhappy for they life ,
-
Kaiejrt says:
February 16th, 2007 at 1:17 amWow. I love Marissa Haque, she is the most influential and remarkable Indonesia women in our town. Many people loved her so much. It is because she has the Indonesia sincerity where others don’t have.
Your view on “Zulkieflimansyah & Marissa Haque” :
Copyright Indonesia Matters 2006-13
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Contact