124 Comments on “Javanese Language”
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fullmoonflower Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 10:50 pmDenmas Aluang…
you know, a real Javanese usually altruistic…
but this one Suryo Kontho… hmmm
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he has written wrong javanese and campur aduk tidak karuan, but keep arrogant and being a detractor…ngisin-ngisini waris….
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March 26th, 2009 at 10:57 pmuwong kuwi kudu tansah mikul dhuwur mendhem jero…
tetep eling lan waspada…
ati-ati marang ilat lan latune…that’s what my great grand mother told me when I was very young…
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Aluang Anak Bayang Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 11:06 pmSee Suryo .. you upset our lil daffodil. Javanese woman can be vicious if agitated.
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Suryo Perkoso Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 11:16 pmYou’ve changed your tune, two nights back you wanted kawin.
Now you and old tai lalat are making off like loro blonjo .
Wah, loro wes dadi siji.
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March 26th, 2009 at 11:23 pmYou’ve changed your tune, two nights back you wanted kawin.
hehehe…
I think I never said that
I told you that : I am a HAPPY SINGLE WOMAN….
don’t want to ruin my happiness dengan seorang laki-laki yang menyebalkan..
hehehethank you….
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March 26th, 2009 at 11:30 pmNow who is mixing BI and Jowo?
Dewi Sri FMF and Ayunan Arek Payung Sadono.
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March 26th, 2009 at 11:31 pmLOL. The strongest stallion gets first pick of the fillies.
ps. it is the masculine charm, the irresistible tai lalat, playboy moussy and kissable lips that melt her.
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March 26th, 2009 at 11:34 pmKasihan deh, like kissing a sinkplunger through a tennis racket covered in dog hair.
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March 27th, 2009 at 12:33 amwow…wow….wow….
what’s happened?
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March 27th, 2009 at 12:35 amYou got married to old face-ache.
Have you seen that pembantu post?
Get in ther girl and give ‘em stick.
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March 27th, 2009 at 12:41 amxixixi….
sounds someone is broken hearted….
-peace-
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March 27th, 2009 at 12:50 amI’ll get over it, lain kali, lain wedhok.
You mind you make sure old gajah abo wears a clean sarung.
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March 27th, 2009 at 12:56 amhihihi….
yes… I see…
someone is broken hearted, and get anger…. peace, dab … eh sam
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Lairedion Says:
March 28th, 2009 at 12:07 amKang Mantri said:
Maybe you could provide the translation for some of us here who does not understand bahasa Sunda, so that we’ll know what we (Indonesian) teach our children.
Here you go. The English translation can be a little weird but the message is clear. Manuk Dadali is Sundanese for the Indonesian Garuda.
Mesat ngapung luhur jauh di awang awang
Gliding high and far in the sky
Meberkeun janjangna bangun taya karingrang
Spreading his wings without hesitation
Kukuna ranggaos reujeung pamatukna ngeluk
His claws are forceful and his beak is hooked
Ngapak mega bari hiberna tarik nyuruwuk
Flapping clouds while flying fast and swooshingSaha anu bisa nyusul kana tandangna
Who can catch up with his courage
Gadang jeung partentang taya badingan nana
Graceful and bold with no equal
Dipikagimir dipikaserab ku sasama
Feared and admired by his peers
Taya karempan ka sieun leber wawanenna
No worries of fear, full of braveryManuk dadali manuk panggagahna
The Dadali bird is the mightiest bird
Perlambang sakti Indonesia jaya
The powerful icon of victorious Indonesia
Manuk dadali pang kakoncarana
The Dadali bird the most famous
Resep ngahiji rukun sakabehna
Loves to unite all in harmonyHirup sauyunan tara pahirihiri
Living peacefully together with no ill intent
Silih pikanyaah teu inggis bela pati
Love each other, no risk for death
Manuk dadali gadung siloka sinatria
The Dadali bird the spirit of chivalry
Keur sakumna bangsa di nagara Indonesia
For all nations in the Indonesian statePerhaps I will start a thread with some basic Sundanese words for non-speakers who are interested.
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March 28th, 2009 at 12:19 amPerhaps I will start a thread with some basic Sundanese words for non-speakers who are interested.
Yep, I reckon we have done enough harm to poor old BoJo in all it’s forms, let’s murder sunda now.
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March 28th, 2009 at 12:25 amSP,
Yep, I reckon we have done enough harm to poor old BoJo in all it’s forms, let’s murder sunda now.
Poor dude. Do you feel frustrated mbakyu FMF and Pakmantri wore you out on BoJo knowledge?
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March 28th, 2009 at 12:34 amI’ll just stick with nggoko and a bit of madurese slung in for good measure.
I’ll be properly impressed if I see them write it, though Pak M may well do just that.Interesting to see though, and I wish I had the time to properly study Inggil as it really deserves – It sounds so sweet to listen to.
As an aside, one of our distant neighbours is an American, lived in Tumpang for years, and does a very good sinden by all accounts. I guess i’ll have to be content with “sewu kuto” (or sewu kutu as my daughter prefers), though the name “Didi Kempot” puts me in mind of a dwarfs exhaust system or possibly something much ruder….
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March 28th, 2009 at 1:19 amNice story but I don’t care really.
If I seek knowledge on Javanese language and culture here on IM I’ll stick with Pakmantri, FMF and AAB as my reliable sources.
We already have witnessed too many “Javanese” failing at the first hurdle.
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March 28th, 2009 at 12:00 pmFirstly, I didn’t ask you to care – it was an illustration only, just pointing out that if one learns boso ndeso, then it will be limited to what we are surrounded by.
For what it is worth, we have also witnessed one or two sundanese falling flat too, but hey, it’s only fun isn’t it?
And you are right, just a small portion of Javanese speak the language with anything like a measure of correctness, and a smaller proporttion of those would be capable of explaining the finer points.
I wonder why some pribumi resent some pribule taking the trouble to learn their language?
I’d just stick with Pak Mantri if I was you -
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March 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pmKang Mantri asal Mantrijeron… FMF asal Kauman, belakang Masjid Gede…
Hehehe…Perhaps oneday you’ll meet us at Lesehan Ronde Alun-Alun Lor or at Angkringan Alun-Alun Kidul or at Gudeg Yu Jum (Plengkung Wijilan)…
would you like to join us, Suryo?
enjoy Ngayogyakartahadiningrat at night … hmmm… btw, my jogja community, will open a cafe at Kota Baru by this year… near by Kreteg Kewek, in front of Gereja Ayam.
monggo lho pinarak…
Kang Mantri,
sak meniko saben malem minggu dateng ngajengipun BI sampun kathah tiyang wandu je…
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March 28th, 2009 at 1:58 pmMas Suryo asal Pakis.
Perhaps we can take gudeg at RM adem ayem in Solo?
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March 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pmSolo??? walah…. opo ora kurang adoh kuwi..? hahahaha
Yogya is central of Gudeg… you can find Gudeg anywhere… no need to go to Solo..
taking 2 hours trip only to buy something that you can find in Yogya… it’s useless
wasting time and money… hahahaBut anyway, Gudeg Solo is quite different with Gudeg Yogya…
Gudeg Yogya is Brown, it because of the daun jati we used when we boil it for 8 hours in a big kendhil on a small fire..
Gudeg Solo is White, because they don’t use daun jati in cook processing, and it is boiled less than 8 hours, perhaps for 2 or 3 hours only..
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March 28th, 2009 at 2:30 pmI’ll be sure to specify that the boil it for at least 8 hours, not a minute less.
In Solo I believe they use a small kendhil on a big fire.
If you lived in Solo as I used to, then RM Adem Ayem was a 10 minute trip on that absurd one way systems on the way back from having a beer, it would have been silly for me to go to Jogja :-} and they would probably have been shut by the time I arrived.
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March 28th, 2009 at 3:03 pmhehehe…
but anyway, as a Solo man, your Boso Jowo is too Malang not Solo…
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Pakmantri Says:
March 28th, 2009 at 3:11 pmIn Solo I prefer to have “sego liwet” with “sambel goreng jepan”, “telur pindang” dan “kumut”. And side dish of tahu/tempe bacem and peyek
Nasi liwet “Wongso Lemu” is the best in Solo.
Or other typical foods from Solo, “serabi notosuman“, “tengkleng ibu Ediyem“, ……. the list will be too long. Ngendikan bab boga, Solo mboten kalah saking kuto-kuto sanesipun jalaran tiyang Solo menika “keplek ilat”.
(Speaking about food, Solo is on par or more than other cities because people from Solo like to indulge their palate.)Salam.
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March 28th, 2009 at 3:19 pm@Lairedion,
I’ll blame this one on you, kang!!
You know when there is a tune or a song in your head that you cannot shake it off for days?
That’s what happen to me after reading your post about “Manuk Dadali“, it stuck in my head for a couple of days. every time I sing, hum or whistle that’s the only tune that came out.Hatur nuhun.
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March 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pmLairedion said:
If I seek knowledge on Javanese language and culture here on IM I’ll stick with Pakmantri, FMF and AAB as my reliable sources.
Speaking of Javanese language and Culture these two western ladies put me to shame.
The first one is Nancy Florida, she is an American who documented and cataloged Javanese literature in Solo, she speak very fluent “kromo inggil”.
And the second one Laura Romano, she is an Italian who believe deeply in kejawen, she promote and gives seminars on kejawen ( Sumarah ) all over Europe. She too speak very fluent Javanese.Both of them have more knowledge of Javanese culture than me or than most Javanese for that matter.
Salam.
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March 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pmSawang sulna, kang.
Nice song, isn’t it? My daughter sings it almost fluently. Those pirated VCD’s (karaoke pop Sunda) of yesterday are still doing good.
Both of them have more knowledge of Javanese culture than me or than most Javanese for that matter.
Oh but that’s not so strange.
I once met a British woman in an angkot in Bandung. There were some guys calling her names in basa sunda cohag (kasar sekali). She replied to them in perfect basa sunda lemes (halus). The men walked away in shame at the next stop. I talked with her a little more and she turned out to have deep knowledge on Sundanese language and culture. And in Holland there’s Mieke Schouten, a professor at the University of Amsterdam who wrote many books on Minahasa culture, language and society, most of Manadonese don’t even know about.
However you shouldn’t feel ashamed of it. You just grow up sometimes being unaware of your mannerism and background. You have other worries on your mind. Western people have better tools and possibilities to dive into “exotic” cultures. It’s a good thing though so it can be preserved for future generations as Indonesians are too busy to walk away from their own heritage.
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Patung Says:
March 28th, 2009 at 4:28 pmThere’s also the American pesinden Karen Elizabeth Schrieber in Malang, she’s doing a great job keeping some of the local girls around her area interested and learning traditional dance. Her husband though, who is Javanese, well he struck me as a bit of a creep, he hit on my sister….
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March 28th, 2009 at 4:50 pm@Lairedion,
I agree, kang.
Most Indonesian right now are either too busy struggling to keep their family afloat or to busy collecting wealth and no time to study or preserve their cultures. @Om Patung,
Tarareng kyu Om.
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