Superstitious Beliefs in Evil Spirits & Demons

Beliefs in Spirits & Demons

Aug 17th, 2009, in News & Issues, by Patung

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13 Comments on “Beliefs in Spirits & Demons”

Odinius Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 7:38 am
My reaction to this, like to every other “MUI fatwa against ______” thread, is:

Don’t they have more important things to worry about?
diego Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Wow, great, some people who believe in superstitions (abrahamic mumbo-jumbos) are now calling other people superstitious?
Ross Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Wasn’t it Gus Dur, a leading light of NU, the largest Muslim orgaisation in this country, who said a few years ago that some meeting would be guarded by hordes of djinns?
And are the MUi now going after all those Jogja people who rever Nyai Loro Kidul? Or boycott the hotel in Pelbuahn Ratu which has a room reserved for admirers of that pre-Islamic deity?
madrotter Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
still waiting for a fatwa against corruption, still waiting for a fatwa against what’s happening in sidoarjo but looking at these idiotic imbeciles that are the mui i think i got a long wait ahead of me…
Oigal Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
the MUI had a responsibility to guide Muslims away from superstition.

Ok thats funny on so many levels..
Mike Oxblack Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Actually I remember Gus Dur inviting a rain maker up to the palace. Unusual move for the big fella that one.
soap maker Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
It’s a grave discussion.haree gene masih percaya.what do you think all people…a 3 years old baby.
there are 4 kinds of superstition,the 4th is IMPROPER WORSHIP OF THE TRUE GOD.
Alice Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Got some questions for MUI: What about them is bothering you? Indonesia is not an Islam country though it has more than 50% muslims. It’s understandable that people want to put faith in these superstitious ideas. Just keep your hands off Indonesian pre-Islamic cultures.
Odinius Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
What’s funny is that MUI could issue 100 fatwas, and Indonesian Muslims (like other Indonesians) will still believe in ghosts and other spirits.
Bas Says:
August 21st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
I am waiting for a fatwa against MUI fatwas…
rima Says:
August 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Ghosts and spirits do exist.
I remember the many times I come home from club hopping in Jakarta and seeing various ghosts such as kuntilanak, pocong, tuyul etc at the wee hours.

I don’t think there are any ghosts in Europe because my sightings stopped when I moved here. But then again, I stopped club hopping and don’t drink anymore since I lived here. Now I’m confused, was it really ghosts or was it mbak mbak pelacur, perempuan berjilbab putih, bocah botak pengemis that I mistakenly took as ghosts while I was wearing my beer goggles?

In any case, you guys can bet on MUI NEVER issuing a fatwa against something they should (like corruption, intolerance against people of different beliefs, degradation of women, discrimination against homosexuals, stealing, cheating etc) and instead they will continue the long held tradition of focusing on superstition, sekitar selangkangan (crotch area) which they will eventually blame on women. Why? because we are LOS DIABLOS yet they’d like to have as many of us as possible. Very confusing and pathetic, methinks.
diego Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Seriously, all these events that took place in indonesia make we wonder:

What is so difficult about making more people stop believing in religions, and start questioning / being skeptics? I don’t remember it took me anything special to become skeptic, so I guess this should happen to anyone without any difficulties. So why are we still in this situation?
Janma Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
What is so difficult about making more people stop believing in religions, and start questioning / being skeptics?

I used to think about that all the time too Diego…. but now I just think, let ‘em believe what they want to believe.
Easy. I’m at peace.