57 Comments on “Women, Power & Politics”
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Astrajingga Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:43 amAs Kinch said, where the hell is all the women’s votes went to?
Gosh!
I relly I wish I can see at least one of them in suit, or in safari, or in whatever parliament member uniform is.
I love women in uniform.
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna!
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Ashlee Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 2:20 amHey Ross, slight apologies, I didn’t see the disclaimer about the joke, I was reading late at night. I’m a pinko, but I’m not quite that uptight…
But I still stand by what everything else I said.
I don’t think women should be “given” seats, but there needs to be education programs established to make sure that there are strong female candidates… candidates that have the policy rigor and expertise… and parties should be encouraging the growth of their female candidates.
Read articles like this: http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/elections-2009/article/14076.html
Parties need to be proactively encouraged to develop the skills of their female members, who might not have the financial backing etc to campaign as aggressively as their male counterparts. It’s not necessarily the voters, but sometimes the parties, that are keeping women out.
We need more women in politics to ensure that policies do not discriminate against women. With the patriarchal system so firmly entrenched in politics, affirmative action is very important. I have very little hope that we would see any real change at all without affirmative action. We still have far to go in more developed countries in regard to the involvement of women in politics, and Indonesia is no exception.
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Rob Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pmOnce the 30% quota has been reached, then what?
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Oigal Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pmWhere’s the ring? Where’s the ring? Show me! Show me! Show me! I wanna, I wanna, I wanna!
Last time I heard that chant was on TV when a group of leather clad metrosexuals were chanting for the ASSMAD Float at the Sydney Gay Mardi Gra…
Sorry..what can I say I have been biting my tongue on another thread for days now
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Achmad Sudarsono Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 3:11 pm@ Oigal,
They weren’t metrosexuals.
They were hard-core homosexuals, and frighening ones at that, the variety called “bears,” pot-bellied, leather clad men with moutaches and police hats.
Fortunately, you as my chief fan in Australia, had joined them and organized a two-story statue of me doing a Rhoma Irama pose with my Ukulele. I forgave you gyrating against it. : P
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David Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 3:42 pmOn ABC once – they were covering the parade with live commentary – commentator Julian Clary, when he saw the ‘bears’ said something like ‘oh! I don’t like the look of them!’, while David Marr hastened to add that the ‘bears’ were like that out of choice…don’t know why that stuck in my head…I don’t remember seeing Achmad, or Oigal in the parade though.
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Lairedion Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 4:01 pmP,
What’s with the homo-erotic images? In another thread I recall you were somewhat fascinated with the former AC/DC singer moving his hips.
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May 19th, 2009 at 4:35 pmOk, well, to restore the balance on the imagery front, here is Indah Kalalo, who is also in my mind a fair bit, with apologies to Ashlee for being slightly juvenile here.
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Oigal Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pmWish I had seen that ..would have been a classic..wonder any chance of Julian Clary doing a Indonesian Presidential special..Love to see his take on the Singer from East Timor and the reactions.
As for the picture..Indah indeed!
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May 19th, 2009 at 5:51 pmGood picture. A genuine brown skin for a change.
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Astrajingga Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 9:24 pmBrown? What are you talking about, her skin really bule. And the pink lacy underwear on her doesn’t make her look brown at all.
Um…. I kinda feel that there’s something wrong with her…
Oh, she has no head!
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ET Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 12:30 amNice picture indeed, but why the bra’s? I hate bra’s.
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Ross Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 12:22 pmThanks for that comment, Achmad; you’re clearly gonna stick to your usual lofty levels of debate…
Judgement must be by popular vote, otherwise meaningless, even though given the disproportionate number of left-libs who post here, it will indeed leave me with worse odds than Leonidas at Thermopylae – but after all…
Let’s get it wrapped up by Friday latest -I honestly have much more useful things to do. -
Ross Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 12:28 pmOya, Ashlee, I’m glad we got that straightened out, and I agree parties should encourage women to participate -it’s state-sponsored arbitrary rules I loathe.
Speaking of straightened out, this topic needs to get bacvk to basics, as maggie would have said. Too many very odd posts from A and co. And it’s Wednesday already, so could he please get on with his duel… it was his idea and he’s been pressing for it sporadically for a year, so he ought to be prepared.
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May 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pmOk Ross, sure. I’m sure fantasizing about Acehnese boys getting whipped by Tory MPs is very important – and time consuming.
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Ross Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 6:10 pmInteresting to note what some folk consider importaNt.
Anyway, Patung, please provide a deadline so you-Know-who doesn’t procrastinate into next week!?! -
May 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pmRight Ross, it will be locked on Friday, whether finished or not, but hey it’s just a bit of fun….
Astrajingga said:
As Kinch said, where the hell is all the women’s votes went to?
Gosh!
Well actually he said
As for women parliamentarians, it was a mistake giving women the vote!
But it raises two points – why don’t (more) women choose women candidates, vis a vis my link to the story about the 0 in 150 success rate of women candidates in Poso recently, or is this just not a consideration for them, I mean the sex of the candidate, or are they in fact more likely to choose dishy looking male candidates (Indonesia context)…
Secondly, second guessing Kinch as I think I know some of his online reading habits, and therefore what might have provoked that comment – are women more likely to favour particular policies or general approaches to government or ideology, specifically, as an example, are they more likely to favour welfarist type government than men?
Thirdly, why is Indah Kalolo being photographed in an underwear shop? No scrub that question.
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:29 amWho’s procrastinating now, Ross. You need some extra-Joss to prepare for your loss !
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Astrajingga Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 9:57 pmOh that what wasn’t Kinch saying. I guess my English is not that good to understand his statement.
Anyway, Patung, thanks to let met join. I just learnt that you’re the master of the house.
About why Indah Kalolo was being photographed in an underwear shop, I think because the photographer, who took the picture with a cheap handphone-camera, is a pervert sexist male, whose hobby is watching woman mud-wrestling while shouting “I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!”
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tomaculum Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 11:38 pm“But it raises two points – why don’t (more) women choose women candidates, vis a vis my link to the story about the 0 in 150 success rate of women candidates in Poso recently, or is this just not a consideration for them, I mean the sex of the candidate, or are they in fact more likely to choose dishy looking male candidates (Indonesia context)…”
Sado masochism?
Seriously, Patung, I wonder about the fact too.
But some of the women parliamentarians are not better than their male counterparts, are they? I remember a woman politician without any equitable political qualification only screaming about the failures of others but forget her own shits. -
May 21st, 2009 at 11:40 pmBtw: who is Indah Kalolo?
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May 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 amor are they in fact more likely to choose dishy looking male candidates (Indonesia context).
I remember an interview of Argentinean women who deemed Cristina Fernández de Kirchner not fit to become president because of her gender.
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Ross Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 amJust got home and fired back at the Gremlin. Will await his final blast tomorrow then reply. Thanks.
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BacKStbrZ Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 7:48 amOkay even though im just registered for 10 minutes cant resist to comment on this
Women Power?? I think currently neither Men or Women now Have a really Strong Position in politics.
When it comes to politics, All of them sucks, Women nor Men are the same, They talk like they’re already the head of the country
Look at our one and only Megawati, She’s far too old for president and yet she wants to be Nomero uno…
And as you know mr JK and Wiranto Did the most useless presidential election declaration, For SBY? He did an extremely Royal Declaration which made me 3 hours late to home stucked up in a green Japanese car called angkot.
Megawati did fine for the “Wong Cilik” but seems like being used by Mangbowo…
So Politics sucks, I hate politics…. (sorry but i do have a right to stand my choices
)Im a newbie dont throw me rocks T_T, Teach me how everythin works here aight? hehehe Salam Kenal KK!
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May 26th, 2009 at 6:41 amHi BacKStbrZ, sorry I missed this, welcome aboard.
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May 26th, 2009 at 7:01 amHii too patung, thanks…. i’m glad im here, its been awhile since i used my….english. i surfed a few topics in the forum and all the guys has awsome english
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May 26th, 2009 at 7:19 amAstrajingga’s English is pretty damn good, some others as well among the Indonesians, but a lot of people here are foreigners like me so…
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