25 Comments on “Israel & Lebanon”
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Rockstar says:
July 18th, 2006 at 9:18 amThis is why Indonesia will never move forward. Always going backward, as if they love doing that.
Why do we always have to be involved in other’s business? It’s not like this country is problem-free. Why not saving your money and sending it to your own brothers and sisters who are suffering because of the Tsunami?
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Andrew says:
July 18th, 2006 at 4:59 pmLet the jihadist (or whatever they want to call it) go; soon we have fewer dumb asses on the face of the earth.
Please remind mr. devil in hell to stock up on virgins!
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R. Patterson says:
July 18th, 2006 at 9:36 pmI noticed that there have not been any demonstrations of Moslem atrocities anywhere anytime. Doesn’t any and every nation have a right to defend it’s territory and citizens? Notice where most of this world’s attrocities are occurring and just who is committing these barbaric uncivilised acts of murder and mayhem..
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Hassan says:
July 21st, 2006 at 8:58 amyeah, now I’m convinced that R. Patterson, or R. Patterstein (really dude!) is a hard liner Jew. yeah i noticed:
1. killing thousands of civilians in Afghanistan trying to find a man named OBL, culprit: USA.
2. killing hundreds of civilians in Palestine trying to rescue a private, culprit: Israel.
3. killing hundreds of civilians in Lebanon trying to rescue 2 soldiers, culprit: Israel.
4. invading a country under false pretences, creating a lawless society in Iraq, resulting major uprise in violence that had killed tens of thousands in Iraq, culprit : USA.
5. destroying WTC as a reason to invade Afghanistan and blamed others instead, culprit: Mossad.
c’mon we’re not stupid! your Jewish dominated media can spin the facts all they want but we won’t buy it, we can see through it.
Israel had a right to defend itself and Lebanon plus Palestine don’t?
bush said those classic line: Israel had the right to blah blah.. and if a known chain liar like bush started uttering rubbish we know it’s a lie and bs.yes, the world is watching and we know.
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July 21st, 2006 at 9:51 pmHassan: I do not really care what or who you think I am.
The following cowardly attacks were not made by Methodists, Catholics, Buddhists, or even Baptists. This is not a full list but as Hassan likes lists please read the following acts of uncivilised savage barbarism by craven Moslem terrorists.
Iran Embassy hostages 1979
Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983
Beirut, Lebanon Marine barracks 1983
Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988
First New York World Trade Centre attack 1993
Dharan, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers military complex 1996
Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998
Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998
Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000
New York World Trade Centre & Pentagon 2001
Then London, Spain, India etc,etc.
All committed by the followers of Islam – the religion of peace? -
Ryan Crontshaw says:
July 21st, 2006 at 10:51 pmhey don’t forget the Bali bombings.. our own Indonesian Moslems bombed our own beautiful island.. twice.. geezz.. how pathetic??!!
and then after they know that those Islamic terrorists did it, they’re all like pretend that those terrorists are not part of them.. they’re like.. “oh no no no, they don’t represent Islam at all..” and we’re like “ya ya ya.. another B*LLSH*T coming..”
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July 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 amPatterstein, yet all those attacks were aimed at western interests, the interests of countries that were directly or indirectly were meddling with and oppressing the Muslim world. you can’t expect to mess with other people and not get any response from them, for every ACTION there’s an opposite equal REACTION.
Note that the actions triggered the reactions.Iran Embassy hostages 1979 – Americans were supporting the Shah and were trying to stop the Iranian Revolution.
Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988 – Thank you for keeping us under embargo for so long and leaving the people leave under poverty, said the hijackers.
First New York World Trade Centre attack 1993 – As a protest for American capitalism that had dominated the world, enriching the capitalists and sending millions to live in poverty.
Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998 – For America’s double standards in dealing with the Palestine issue.
Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998 – same as above.
Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000 – same as above.
ew York World Trade Centre & Pentagon 2001 – Let me ask you, who received the most benefit from this? The US had took control of a vast number of oil resources in Afghanistan and Iraq after it happened. and experts had argued that plane crashes couldn’t have caused the towers to implode the way it had, only perfectly placed detonations could.
London and Spain – for participating in the Iraq war
India were political in nature. India and Pakistan had been on each other’s throat for a long time.Now, in no way i condone these acts in any way, i were just pointing out that behind these REACTIONS there were ACTIONS taken by the West to mess with the Islamic World. Plus, the REACTIONS were not random ones, i.e. there were no Swiss embassy bombed or anything because Switzerland were not voilent towards the Muslim World.
Let me remind you that the western Christians were responsible for more than 80% of violence in this world in the last century. Starting from the Catholic inquisition, the witch hunts, the crusades, the hundred year war between britain and the french, the imperalism era, the two world wars, korean and vietnam wars.
All commited by followers of Christianity – the religion of peace??
Now dude, you must stop blaming the religion for the acts of the followers.Ryan Crotchshow, the culprit of the Bali bombings were extremists who took a wrong approach to the meaning of jihad. should the vast majority be responsible for the acts of the so few, while the majority had no knowledge of the acts nor do we condone it?? trust me, all the B*LLSH*Ts were coming from the white house.
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July 22nd, 2006 at 11:51 amhmm well I think I agree with you to some extent. Religion has to be seperated from politics. Christianity should be a personal intimate relationship between one and Christ, and the same goes to other religions.
However I think you should also take a look at the events that had happened in our own soil. Like churches were burnt and all that kind of stuff. I’m not saying that this is the act of Moslems. NO, they are the extremists, unfortunately enough they act in the name of religion. BUT this is happening in our own country. Discrimination against Chinese and Christians are two things that really concern minors like me.
I don’t like to get involved in others business. Let alone Israel and Lebanon, I seriously don’t care. We already have enough problems in our own soil. Enough to make me worry about the safety of my family who still lives there. As long as our gov can’t take a drastic measure against these extremists, I will always be worried.
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July 22nd, 2006 at 12:25 pmQuote: “the culprit of the Bali bombings were extremists who took a wrong approach to the meaning of jihad. should the vast majority be responsible for the acts of the so few, while the majority had no knowledge of the acts nor do we condone it?? trust me, all the B*LLSH*Ts were coming from the white house.”
see this everybody?
another B*LLSH*T…
haiyah.. they just never learn..
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July 22nd, 2006 at 11:29 pmHassan: You are a sad sick person, of “course you don’t condone?” these acts of uncivilised barbarism – of course?
We have Moslems marching in Australia re the Israeli actions in Lebanon and Gaza – their right of course. But strange I did not see any “moderate?” Moslems marching against the cowardly butchery of innocent, unarmed, unaware Israeli-British-American-Indian-Australian- Spanish- French – etc men, women, children and babies NOT ONE. Sorry sport you “moderate?” Moslems are as bad or even worse than the bloodthirsty insane psychopaths of the religion of peace. Now please crawl back under your rock.
By the way we do not have to oppress the poor bloody Moslems. Their leaders? are doing a fine job. -
July 23rd, 2006 at 11:44 amWell, there weren’t any single rally or protests by westerners when two third of the world population were under western imperialism, that lasted several centuries. westerners were not saints. and yes, I had heard several “not in our name” protests by Muslims in britain and some other countries. surprise, surprise, your Jewish dominated media didn’t mention any.
Sorry Crotchshow, I don’t speak Chinese. I really don’t get your point. i doubt if anyone did.
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salam says:
July 23rd, 2006 at 11:59 amDear Friends,
Can we forget about religion for a moment. Let us look to the issue politically. Jews had been subjected to sufferings on the hands of Europeans and had been compensated by a state (colony) on the cost of another non European people. So Israel came to be and the Palestinians made to pay and still paying. Is there a case here which deserves sympathy.Palestinians are enjoying this sympathy from so many peace loving peoples in the world including from Europe, Asia, Africa, Americas and even from many decent Israelis. People with historical experiences of living under occupation like the Indonesians can understand the plight of the Palestinian people for freedom and Independence more than others like Mr. Patterson, I sincerely feel sorry for him but I hope that he will try to find the rational human inside his mind and heart.
May God bless him whatever his opinion.
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July 23rd, 2006 at 11:03 pmhehe it’s funny when people start to say about how injustice this and that but forgot about how bad they’ve treated their own brothers
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Allah says:
July 27th, 2006 at 11:37 amI command for this 2 countries to be just simply wiped out of this world. Both are filled with idiots anyway.
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July 29th, 2006 at 11:59 amtsk, tsk, if those supposed “God chosen people” continues to behave like murderous nazis then I’m glad I’m not chosen. I don’t think God blesses murderous nazis Abdullah Muhammad, He loves all humanity, we are His unique creation.
the guy who wrote the above comment (above mine) is an idiot, impostering The Ruler of the Universe is a sin.
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July 30th, 2006 at 2:26 amClaiming God to be on one’s side is a foolish argument which had been casually used by racists and lunatics through history, let us talk about values of equality, justice and other human values. May be this approach is difficult or impossible for Rockstar and the likes; so it is a waste of time to engage them with any rational discussion.
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July 30th, 2006 at 10:40 am@salam:
“Claiming God to be on one’s side is a foolish argument which had been casually used by racists and lunatics through history”
“May be this approach is difficult or impossible for Rockstar and the likes ; so it is a waste of time to engage them with any rational discussion”Salam, I’m so deeply curious and please tell me where in my post did I claim whatever you said in your post?
but again since you’ve mentioned it.. I do believe that God IS always on my side and you should have the same faith too in your God. I don’t think this is wrong Salam. Tell me how can that be so foolish?
Accusing me lunatic just because one did not read my post carefully nor did not know what I was talking about.. is very insulting.
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July 31st, 2006 at 11:16 amchill bro’s, I think that salam was referring to Abdullah Muhammad’s comment “ISRAEL IS GOD CHOSEN PEOPLE!!!!!”. he got it wrong. it’s just a simple misunderstanding.
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July 31st, 2006 at 11:32 pmhehehhe I’m chill
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August 1st, 2006 at 6:38 amDear Friends
I have to apologize for Rockstar for the mistake and misunderstanding that I had just realized as he was quoting from some body else contribution… The point I was trying to make is a bout the Almighty God who is fair, Justice and merciful to all humans, God who does not encourage aggression, who had promised us all equal treatment… This is my God that I am proud to worship and to him alone I surrender… but those who justify their bad intentions , aggression and selfish agenda under the banner of being promised or chosen by God are the ones I have no intention to discuss or debate ..
Please be kind to accept this clarification…
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August 2nd, 2006 at 6:51 pmno worries salam
I do agree with you.. I keep telling to my friends that religion can’t be mixed with politics.. it’s your personal relationship with God.
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August 7th, 2006 at 5:08 amThe Israeli full scale offensive against Lebanon continues for the forth week ,while the Israeli attacks against the Palestinian civilian population never stoped .. despite all calls from the Arab Leauge, the OIC , the NAM , European Union and almost every other country for an immediate cease-fire ;the Security Council of the UN had been un able to adopt a resolution for a cease-fire .. How &Why Israel can be allowed (by the US) to continue this flagrent violation of the International Law .. What should be done to protect the Lebanease & Palestinian people from this ongoing Israel aggression ?!!!
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TOAR says:
August 8th, 2006 at 8:39 amThe Jew’s should know better, let us go back in 1920, when the Jew’s were treated as second class citizens in Europe (Germany) they migrate to Palestine and with all their expertise, and their high education in Europe as trader they con the ordinary Palestinian’s on selling their land, then instead of working together with the Palestinian’s they take over the land and they tread the Palestinian’s as second class citizen and discriminate them on their own land. Then they create a government without inviting the Palestinian’s and ignoring the Palestinian’s people and not only that, the Jew’s tread the Palestinian’s like dirt. I like to know who are the terrorist here, the Jew’s or the Palestinian’s?
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profesional teacher says:
August 29th, 2006 at 12:59 pmi suggest for Indonesian people to be ‘mature’ and think more globally. don’t simply see anything from religion view. it is too stupid!! religional matter is pesonal business with the God. i see that most of Indonesian has become more radical; judge and view anything in the world based on one word “Islam” come on…… the world is not as wide as a piece of note!!!!
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August 30th, 2006 at 11:42 pmno it isn’t, religional matter is not just a personal business with God. that’s why Christians and Muslims thinks differently. it is not just a personal relationship with God in Islam.
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