206 Comments on “CIA & FBI Conspiracy Theories”
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schmerly Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:00 pmGood old Assmad true to form, no real answers just waffling away in his self delusional little world, you’ve got to feel some pity for him.
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Oigal Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:49 pmworld weary now..laugh..
I have in fact been extremely fortunate so far and have led a varied and interesting life encompassing a number of different career paths all have which have taught me something. Although I doubt any one path could be said to define who or what I am now. Indeed, fate or chance has allowed me to meet a number of interesting engaging people (not including trolls)and see and do things that have enhanced my life.
In comparison to being a self absorbed little trolls crying out for attention and a sense of worth then fates have indeed been kind.
Oigalonomics..that’s actually not bad..might keep that..”The Oigal’s guide to debate”..laugh oh delusional one..don’t be so self tampering and self absorbed, you flatter yourself (amongst other things) I never debate you for that would infer I place the slightest value on the opinion of a sad little thing whose idea of a life experience is a latte without sugar. You remain a fairly mindless distraction albeit one that probably annoys others..kind of like picking a scab in public when one was a child.
Never the less, thanks for the boredom relief
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Achmad Sudarsono Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:21 pmAll –
See Oigalating (Oigal’s debating) in action. Varied career paths, yeah, good one. (Marching new recruits up and down at Puckapunyal, barking orders from behind a moustache).
But you’re right, Ogle. Was a bit of a mistake to mention your alleged “arguments” Whining and frothing at the mouth more like it.
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February 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pmWarning: Change of Tone Ahead.
Oigal, following passage shows a very nice writing “voice” — maybe you could expand on it, perhaps reflecting on Indonesia for IM ? Maybe this isn’t the right forum. But If you do, I promise I won’t attack it or say anything stupid.
I have in fact been extremely fortunate so far and have led a varied and interesting life encompassing a number of different career paths all have which have taught me something. Although I doubt any one path could be said to define who or what I am now. Indeed, fate or chance has allowed me to meet a number of interesting engaging people (not including trolls)and see and do things that have enhanced my life.
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Oigal Says:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:14 pmYea not bad for a kid from the bush who left school at 15 hey..but then as a wise man once said Education and Knowledge are not always the same thing..then again he also said.. “a gooders edjmucations never dids me noes ‘arm..
I promise won’t say anything stupid
Didn’t anyone ever tell you the story of the scorpion and the frog..
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February 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pmOgle,
On scorpion and frog: sure. And fair enough.
But it doesn’t matter.
And since when did formal education a good storyteller make ? How much university did Mark Twain, (dunno), Banjo Paterson (also dunno), or, say, Homer (also dunno) have ?
In fact, the lack of formal shiiite, might serve a scribe well these days.
IMHO, the paragraph above works better than the political stuff – not because I disagree (which I do), just because there’s alot of it around.
Even I can be reasonable at times. ; p
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Oigal Says:
February 14th, 2009 at 8:49 amHow much university did Mark Twain, (dunno), Banjo Paterson (also dunno),
Ah two people with admiration (Banjo was quite the lefty as well as would be most decent thinking people be in those days) Homer.. as yet had the pleasure (I re-call being told I had to read Homer therefore did not).
However, the point you make is valid. I would recommend CJ Dennis. A personal favorite and interestingly, it could be said the more educated and urbanised you are, the more impenetrable his prose becomes.
Considering the current situation, CJ had a point back in 1931..
I venerate economists
As very learned blokes,
But when in paradox they speak
Their meaning oft I vainly seek,
Suspecting subtle jokes.
They say the whole world’s down and out;
But here’s what I can’t see:
If every land, beyond all doubt,
In all the world is up the spout -
Then who’s the mortgagee?Do we owe money in the moon,
Or some celestial land?
Or have we creditors in Mars,
Or other fixed and unfixed stars,
Who hold our notes of hand?
If not, why all the fuss and fret?
I’ve conned it o’er and o’er,
And find no clear solution yet.
If all the earth is deep in debt,
Who IS the creditor?When men go into bankruptcy
The case is plain as day:
What is not in the dear wife’s name
Grim creditors will promptly claim,
And assets melt away.
But when a whole wide world’s in soak
And cannot raise the tin,
Here’s where I half suspect a joke:
When all the earth goes stoney broke,
Who puts the bailiffs in -
February 14th, 2009 at 9:23 am: )
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February 14th, 2009 at 9:25 amp.s. – that was the old Greek Homer, not Simpson. Nice translation out of the Odyssey by Fagle, but still a bit confusing without the right context. CJ more accessible. ; p
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Oigal Says:
February 14th, 2009 at 11:15 amDon’t underestimate the Simpson Homer! More is said than some think..Although I did hear the sheila who does the voices (forget) refused to do a show bagging the scientologists..which is a bugger as it’s a front runner for the world’s nuttiest religion (for a good pisstake, you need to watch the Boston Legal episode on religion.
A classic
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Burung Koel Says:
February 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pmthough I did hear the sheila who does the voices (forget) refused to do a show bagging the scientologists..which is a bugger as it’s a front runner for the world’s nuttiest religion
Nancy Cartwright, who does the voice of Bart, refused to say the line “Utah, home of America’s second weirdest religion”. It was changed to “Utah, home of America’s most powerful weirdos.”
It worries me that I possess this information.
Great link, too, thanks.
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February 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pmOnly God knows why the Scientologists have such longevity. @ All — please see Southpark episode (trapped in the closet), and Wikipedia on America’s nuttiest religion. On Mormons, “Under the Banner of Heaven,” for second nuttiest religion. Still, to be fair, Christianity has its odd strains, including the more venerated versions, such as Coptic, Ethiopian, or Orthodox strains.
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Lanang Says:
February 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pmAWESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME
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schmerly Says:
February 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm@ Lanang..
AWESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME
Are you a halfwit or what, is that supposed to be a comment or a belch?
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schmerly Says:
February 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 am@Lairedion
schmerly, what are your motives to participate here on IM since all is ridiculous and you don’t give a damn about other opinions?
I could ask you the same question?? considering you think your above all others.
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Aluang Anak Bayang Says:
February 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 am@ schmerly
Put-downs and personal insults directed at Asians are typical of bules.
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Lairedion Says:
February 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 am@schmerly
I could ask you the same question?? considering you think your above all others.
Sigh, another bule dodging questions….
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schmerly Says:
February 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 am@ AAB..
Put-downs and personal insults directed at Asians are typical of bules.
Just like you do to your own people yea, if their not Javanese?
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February 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pmPak/Ibu Schmerly Yth.,
Here at IM, we are committed to helping you improve, as a writer and as a person. I include my tips:
* Respect your seniors.It is unlikely you are Javanese, with your impertinent comments. It is better if you take on a humble attitude towards Bpk. AAB. I don’t know where you’re from, but it is unlikely your civilization’s values can match those of the Javanese. I look at the Bule’s accomplishments since the renaissance, and just smile. They could never match those of Mojopahit.
* Be more open minded.Seksi Friend, we are not alone in the universe. The temples of Java are testament to our connections to extra-terrestrial life forms. Just accept it, listen, and learn.
* Study the Pancasila.Self explanatory.
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February 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 pmAgain, schmerly what are your motives to participate here? What’s the point of discussing here on threads when all is ridiculous and you don’t give a damn about other opinions?
Until now we have yet to see any comments from you with the slightest knowledge of or genuine interest in Indonesia. Just noise, name-calling, swearing etc.
considering you think your above all others.
If you think that’s the case I’m cool with that.
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February 22nd, 2009 at 9:17 pmSeksi Bpk Lairedy Yth.,
Alot of abductees display such traits – not understanding the Wisdom of the Pancasila. They come round in the end.
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February 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 amMas Achmad,
During my stay in bule land, my next door neighbour and their children addressed me and my wife by our name example “Good morning, Mr. and Mrs. Bayang.” In Java, we greet each other as ‘brother’ and ‘sister’. Good manner don’t exist in bule land. Perhap it was the reason Pak/Ibu Schmerly read the Pancasila but can’t see the beauty in it.
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February 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 amBpk. AAB Yth,
Saudara,
I would recommend gently, but firmly instructing them in our ways. Politely explain that they will soon have to accept dominion status. It would be better to learn from a gentleman such as yourself, rather than the preman we will be sending to patrol many of these countries (especially if you are in Australia).
Achmad.
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schmerly Says:
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm@ AAB.. Sorry I don’t need a monyet to teach me anything, just wallow in your own ignorance.
@ Lairedion.. Like I said before your obviously biased so what’s the point of answering you? try reading my posts and you’ll see I don’t suffer fools gladly.
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February 24th, 2009 at 3:25 amschmerly:
Like I said before your obviously biased
Where did you say that? And in what? I don’t represent anybody but myself…
try reading my posts and you’ll see I don’t suffer fools gladly.
I did. As I said before: noise, name-calling, swearing, nothing useful or of any added value in particular… a bule version of dragonwall so to speak…
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schmerly Says:
February 24th, 2009 at 8:36 am@ Lairedion..
nothing useful or of any added value in particular
I could say the same about you in that respect, also where is this swearing your on about? and name calling what a shame, people call me names as well, but that doesn’t bother me, look if you don’t like my posts I’m afraid your just going to have to suck it up OK! and stop being such a moocher.
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February 24th, 2009 at 9:51 amHalo Bpk/Ibu Schmerlys Yth.,
Friend,
I call upon you in the name of Pancasila to return to the original theme of the discussion: the role of the CIA and FBI in Indonesia’s woes.
Friend,
Seksi Mr. Lairedions sort-of requested we drop the disaster references, which is fine. But I think, Friend, that there is no doubt the CIA, FBI and the Bule man wants to stop the second rise of the Mojopahit Empire. Back then, we were the seksiest. In many ways, we still are.
I think you’d have to agree.
Ok Friend ?
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schmerly Says:
February 24th, 2009 at 5:56 pmYou know what I think about you childish theories, so I’m not going to repeat myself, just take my advice, stay in your kampung playing your Ukulele and reciting poetry to the local kids, as their the only people your ever going to impress.
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February 24th, 2009 at 8:50 pmBpk/Ibu Schmerly Yth.,
Honestly, just saying this as a friend, it’s much, much better if you take on a respectful attitude to the paragons of Javanese learning, such as myself.
Seksi Friend,
Such an attitude will help dissolve your Western arrogance and open your mind, however small, to the great insights of the Babad Tanah Jawi and other tomes.
Seksi Friend,
If you choose to believe we are alone in the Universe. So be it. You bules believe all sorts of odd things, but when it comes to discourse with scholars such as myself and AAB, better for you if you show the correct and appropriate etiquette.
Drs. Achmad Sudarsono.
Poet, Ukulele Player, Pencak Silat Master, Cabaret Singer.
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February 24th, 2009 at 11:41 pmMas/Mbak Schmerly,
If Pancasila fails to open your eyes, may our Javanese philosophy enlighten your heart.
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