9 Comments on “New Fatwas”

1. Rockstar Says:
   May 29th, 2006 at 12:42 am

   # The anti-pornography bill (RUU APP) should be passed immediately.
   # The anti-discrimination bill (RUU Antidiskriminasi Ras) should not be passed.

   tell me these two aren’t a joke.
   so yea.. discrimination is far less important than pornography. thank you now I know why I dont wanna go back to Indonesia.

2. Sarawut Pratoomraj Says:
   May 29th, 2006 at 9:33 am

   As a foreigner and not Muslim .Have some one tell me that do Prophet Muhammad agree to discrimination?

3. Patung Says:
   May 29th, 2006 at 10:03 am

   The MUI seem to object to race and ethnicity being considered important things about a person.

   Religion should be used as the guiding standard.
   (Seharusnya agama digunakan sebagai kaidah penuntun.)

   said Ma’ruf Amin of the MUI who went on to add that the failure to use religion as the defining thing about a person was evidence of jahiliyah, or pagan/pre-Islamic thinking.

   He went on to say that a special law against discrimination was unnecessary since it was already illegal and there existed the danger that it would be over-the-top and even useless. (!!!!)This of course is the exact same argument that many use against the RUU APP, the anti-pornography law, but this appears not to have occured to Ma’ruf Amin.

4. Anonymous_aloy Says:
   May 29th, 2006 at 10:08 am

   The only fatwa Indonesians need now is the fatwa to dissolve the MUI.

   Mr. Rockstar, MUI is a joke. Unfortunately, that makes Indonesia a joke too.

   Mr. Pratoomraj, maybe he did, maybe he did not. As a Moslem, I’d like to think he never did. But I’ve been wrong before. Then again, other than for historical curiousity, what the Prophet did should bear little relevance to Moslems today, if it is in conflict with norms and values in today’s world. I think the Prophet himself would’ve approved with this approach of Islam.

   It is the literal interpretations of Quran and the Hadistz are behind the backwardness of Islam. The MUI are obviously trying the best they can to keep Islam and Indonesia backward.

5. Sarawut Pratoomraj Says:
   May 29th, 2006 at 10:55 am

   Thank you Mr.Anonymous for your respond.As far as I know I am afraid about those country which use religion approach in conduct country it is not success enough .Not only unsuccess but also make a lot of trouble to the country .In Europe middle age.Christian,pope,at that time give more attention or sanction to the king and has corrupted so Christian community broken into many branch .In Afkanistan ,Taliban era it proved some failuer of use religion to rule the conntry.I hope Indonesia will not follow the past by use Islamic law for countrol the country.

6. Anonymous_aloy Says:
   May 29th, 2006 at 12:48 pm

   Mr. Pratoomraj, I fully agree with you and I am sure Indonesia will be a failed nation if it follows the path you’re suggesting. Having successfully reject the wholesale implementation of Syariah, Indonesians are now really having difficulties repelling the piecemeal or bite-size Syariah laws in many disguises (RUU APP being one of the most obviouse one, but look also at Education Law passed a few years back). An Indonesian Moslem like me should be very afraid because these laws will force us to become non-Indonesian and ultimately non-Moslem. Non-Moslem Indonesians should also be very afraid because if today they become second-class citizens, what will happen tomorrow?

7. de2via Says:
   June 2nd, 2006 at 12:58 am

   Anonymous Says:
   “An Indonesian Moslem like me should be very afraid because these laws will force us to become non-Indonesian and ultimately non-Moslem.”

   Yeah, I’ve been worried of the same thing since this RUUAPP is being talked about widely.

   So sad, right?

8. Dragonwall Says:
   July 13th, 2007 at 4:11 pm

   The final fatwa they will announce with solemn approval of all the Islamic followers is that:

   Everyone please line up and sign in as Islam and you will be entitled to have 4 wives or perhaps 4 husbands!

9. Stefan Says:
   October 30th, 2007 at 12:36 am

   What happened to the discrimination bill? Has it been passed or has it been dropped? Or is it still under consideration?

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