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yea swagger, don’t you just love ballsy chicks
@ .. LCVS-they like dating metro men aswell apparently.
@ .. Nay
The kind of man that DOES *everything* that the woman humiliatingly demands of him, and who slaves away and trying to make her happy, is highly unpopular with women
so true…different if the man is providing things which the woman really needs and appreciates. For a poor girl, maybe food for her family or money so she can buy a long awaited present for her kids, and constant friendship and contact. These things are important to her…But for a girl who is not poor…i dont know
so… many women dont like an easy man…because in my opinion it all about ’staying power’ in a relationship. Man will have no problem with keeping a woman if deep down in the relationship there is something which will keep them together.
@swagman + sobhana
go easy, no one likes internet bullies. I know some single mum in my country and I do agree with ’shawty’ on that
@ brian A
@swagman + sobhana
go easy, no one likes internet bullies
Ok boss
Man will have no problem with keeping a woman if deep down in the relationship there is something which will keep them together
umm … sounds like the problem has been solved!
I have a friend who has dated some bule, she is from indonesia, but she says that she will never date or have a relationship with a local boy again…
I dont understand why she thinks like this…
anyone else?
@Brian, your friend is perhaps a typical low class Indonesian girl working as bar hostess, waitress, maid etc and being hurt by (player and dominant) low class Indonesian boys (yes, Joko the satpam and Jono the tukang roti are players, they have so many girlfriends and maybe also wife )…
Then they meet this sweet, romantic bule (yes the typical dorky bule boy who can’t get bule girls back home), this bule adores her, give her money, treat her like a real princess… respect her as a woman… despite her look and education (of course bule men will try to get grab anything with hole, they have no standard).
On her very simple brain she will finally think that ALL Indonesian men are asshole and ALL bule guys are hero..
Brian A, it is simply based on the same expression, once you go black you can never go back.
your friend is perhaps a typical low class Indonesian girl working as bar hostess, waitress, maid etc
Well if the above is supposed to pass as a high class opinion then it easy to understand why they look elsewhere.
On her very simple brain she will finally think that ALL Indonesian men are asshole
Dunno about All Indonesian men but the above comment certainly narrows down the field.
“On her very simple brain she will finally think that ALL Indonesian men are asshole and ALL bule guys are hero..”
In view of such arrogance it isn’t difficult to understand why so many bule prefer kampung girls.
@Mbak Inez
I cant just sit and read after reading your post…
I wonder what you really mean by “low class” in the above paragraph. May I know what kind of girls you think as “high class”?
I believe not all “educated”, “good looking” and “economically stable” girls could behave as “good” as their education, look and economic level; we could easily notice them by the way they speak and judge others.
@ET
Cant agree with you more;)
@ Inez
Loved reading your dribble Inez … made me feel very much “high class” … relatively of course!
@ Brian A
I am trying to give up on the bullying thing sorry
@ Inez
Are you an indonesian woman yourself, what Mbak is in indonesian.
But thats your view and I think some of what you said is true …
eg … being hurt by indonesian boys, this bule adores her
but come on …I am sure everyone had a laugh at this comment
“(of course bule men will try to get grab anything with hole, they have no standard).”
@ Swagga
You have a good sense of humour, Inez has obviously been in touch with Pak Achmad and also his betel nut
“of course bule men will try to get grab anything with hole, they have no standard”
That’s a very good advertising for Dunkin’ donuts
Brian A,
Mbak means sister.
And, I dont agree with mbak Inez opinion.
If Id prefer bule than local guy,so it means I am a low class gal?
Im not a waitress, a maid, nor a hostess either (if those profession are the low-class prof in ur opinion).
*So,pls describe what is the high class gal,u mean?*
And,I agree with cheetah. Even though a gal has high education, good job, rich,but her attitude like (sorry) whore (dated n slept with anyguys she met),what du say?
Everyguy could be a jerk,could be a sweet. No matter what nationality n race he has.
Brian,If ur friend likes bule alot than local guy, maybe for her bule is more attractive than local guy (with blue,green,hazel,brown or whatever eyes color,pointed nose,red lips.something like that.what I can say,it’s all about appearance)…:)..
@ Brian
I did try both, in different time. I date local boys, and when in univ date an exchange student. I prefer with bule bf.
Not because he pay me, but more to he is more supportive and open minded. I’ve been hurted by both, local and bule.
My local bf not ugly guys, and they are have rich daddy drive own car, and good income. My ex bule bf play football in his univ, he is a jock, blonde blue eyes, smart but not a dorky type.
A jerk just a jerk, you can’t cover that up with skin color, or money.
I don’t think woman who like bule ALL are stupid, don’t have choice, work as a bar girl or prostitute, or hurted by local guy who had 4 wife or gf’s every where.
I think all woman everywhere in the world looking for someone who could appreciate their feeling, and just being sincere to each other.
@ inez,
Read above sist
@ Riniss
Hi class by some (stupid) girls opinion are:
Have rich daddy that could pay for her party, school abroad, doesn’t have to think about how to pay apartment rent, car fuel, electricity, school fee, etc, just party-drinking as much as she can because thats mean she is cool, and great, sleep with two guys at same nite, to prove she is irresistible because she is brown skin in pale country and gossiping about low class stupid indo girls who had low income, can’t pay rent because she had to send some of the money to her parent back at village.
Back to indonesia, she will become more snob with abroad title, looking low to ALL indonesia woman. Call them stupid, narrow minded, hillbillies because they don’t drink, they don’t do free sex, and want to change this mind set, to her western mindset, because she think its cool !
(keknya gue dendam kesumat ya?)
Thats what high class to some snob rich daddy girl by someone definition.
a low class girl chooses a man to up her status. a high class girl knows what she wants, therefore chooses a man for the purpose of fulfilling her greatest desires.
@sobhana
Somehow this doesn’t add up. There are way more low class men and women in Indonesia.
So while some girls might be able to marry up, most will not have that opportunity and marry someone lower class as well. The correct conclusion has to be: most lower class women marry lower class men. There is not much choice, do the math.
The “high class” girls are probably better of marrying some Indonesian man. Most would never be able to live in the developed world. There, bitchy high class behaviour is frowned upon. Even rich people cook for themselves, wash their car and go out shopping groceries.
Although “high class” girls might be able to buy a degree in Indonesia, this will not work in a developed country. So they would have to change behaviour en work hard to get the degree.
If the “high class” girl can’t do any household stuff like cooking, refuses to do grocery shopping, thinks it’s to much effort to work for money and likes to look down on others, then please keep them in Indonesia. We have no need for them in the developed world.
a high class girl knows what she wants, therefore chooses a man for the purpose of fulfilling her greatest desires.
Greatest desires? Please elaborate.
Like to meet a lady who likes a good hindu family life and children.
Like to meet a lady who likes a good hindu family life and children.
I bet this guy fulfills the greatest desires. Ladies?
dats a load of BS, bs. a girl such as myself, one being accused of ‘higher standards’ – just because i’m not a great cook doesn’t mean i can’t survive on my own. i pay my own bills. i work a 40 hour job at a ‘developed’ foundation with annual pay and benefits. don’t i deserve the right to seek forth the right man to win over the heart of such an eligible bachelorette?
don’t i deserve the right to seek forth the right man to win over the heart of such an eligible bachelorette?
But we still don’t know what ‘greatest desires’ this right man has to fulfil to please such an eligible bachelorette.
don’t i deserve the right to seek forth the right man to win over the heart of such an eligible bachelorette?
You most certainly do.
Do note this line in my post:
… thinks it’s to much effort to work for money …
That excludes a 40 hours a week job where you actually do work, so you don’t fit the definition.
Have you thought about SethuramanSegaram yet?
Are you kidding me? Did you read what he was looking for? Besides, Mr. Segaram sounds a bit old for my taste, so yea I’ll pass thank you.
I think you shouldn’t exclude a “good hindu family life”.
Who knows, he might just stay home and raise the kids while you’re off to the office, and he might just be that great cook
Too bad he’s too old for you.
actually i have a bf who is five years younger than me who surprises me with home cooking often when i come home from work. he is one loving candidate for a hubby, gotta love these college boys! oh and did i mention that he’s italian?
It’s funny how much immature vitriol gets chucked around in this discussion.
“high/low class” — I mean, are some of you living under some kind of caste system? … and more importantly, what is the difference between high class / low class woman? I don’t know… it’s just rather distressing that our capitalist society has reduced women to marketable products where one has higher market value than another. Doesn’t sound like the basis of a healthy relationship if you ask me.
@ET
What women want are “Resources and Commitment”. That’s the answer to the age old question. Resources can be a bit vague, but the commitment is needed so that the woman knows that the resources keep on coming. The loophole is that all women need emotional resources, and a friendship is good enough to provide some of that
Some of you women whine about the difficulty of finding a “good” man, but seriously… it’s a load of bunk. Women can get male attention anytime they need it, and they know it. Same with the claims of being “hurt” by a guy… that’s just an excuse to ditch the guy so you can find another one… and there are plenty out there and you know it won’t be long before you have another anyway. Same deal when you act fussy over the kind of men you want, or if you decide to act “high maintenance”. It gives you a license to be with lots of different men… but hey, you’re not a bad girl at all for sleeping around… it was THOSE TERRIBLE MEN who didn’t work hard enough to keep you!!!! You HAD to leave them and find “better” men, who would “treat you right”!
(cry me a river)
The “ex-boyfriend” claim is equal nonsense…. no boyfriend ever really becomes an “ex” unless you don’t want the guy you’re currently seeing to think you’re seeing another guy as well. Otherwise, why mention it? You could have mentioned that he was just a friend, but a guilty conscience wants to mention a little bit more information about the relationship.
Just wanted to let you ladies know that, yes, just like you, lots of us men have heard it all from women and aren’t phased by much of it. We know you all sleep around — it’s OK, but we prefer the honesty rather than the truth twisting.
Men, I’m curious to know how many women you have ‘hurt’ before (on average) thus excluded you from the relationship you had with them?
@sobhana
Wow, you own Italian cook. Lucky bastard.
@nay,
man, she must have really hurt you …
You don’t understand. I’m not hurt by it. That’s just the way things are. Men and women have different goals, and for the most part — unrealistic expectations of each other.
I mean, I *suppose* you could get depressed by it but I choose not to.
What you resist, persists. What you accept starts working for you.
Women are very aware, that they need to keep their “number” of men low, to maintain their own “high value” in the face of men who would say “I wouldn’t marry her, she’s a slut! I’d only want to go to bed with her!” … and that attitude doesn’t work to anyone’s benefit.
There’s no “battle of the sexes” everyone…..
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