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“Face it: asian women are much more accepting of inferior men than any other race.”
Ooops, Julia, you’re now unfair!
But I agrre with you. No more comparisons.
I (asian man) wouldn’t change my wife against a honey skinned big eyed asian beauty.
Btw: my wife is slim, pretty and … most important: very intelligent.
““Cathy” is the epitome of the great, white North American female: insecure, obsessed with shopping, dieting, dating, eating and bad-mouthing men with her equally banal, equally unappealing, fat friends.”
Ooops again, except the skin colour the description suits to many Indonesian women.
(also the blonde hair )
you can’t even see the shapes of many Indonesian ladies, can you? How can you say, they have perfect shapes? You maybe imagine it, don’t you?
Dear Toma, you should look around. Indonesia is not Arabia, our women don’t wrap themselves into cocoons. Visit stores like Matahari, Carrefour or Hypermart, you can tell through their uniforms.
“Face it: asian women are much more accepting of inferior men than any other race.”
Oh dear Julia, you are wrong. Economic hardship compels them. Actually, it is the other way round. Let me rephrase it for you, “White men are much more accepting of inferior women than any other race.” I sometime salute them with their taste. Like Toma, you should go out and observe more. I have seen one too many White male caressing with unsightly Asian female with face only a mother would love.
I’m very glad that you said Indonesia is not (yet) Arabia. Hope it will last long enough.
You know, sometimes I felt not being in Indonesia (on my last holiday) cause I’ve seen many “shapeless” women (but also many blondes). Sometimes I asked myself if I were really in Indonesia or if Indonesia is already ivaded by Arabian and European.
Back to the topic: I think many caucasian (=white) men are seeking for asian women because they are hunting for something exotic (many, not all). And if the daily normal life is back again, then they face many times insurmountable problems. One of those problem is that they have nothing to talk with another.
And a further problem is that no white men (or woman) can life only from rice and sambal and only a few Indonesian women eat bread and cheese.
Julia: Your behavior proves my point (lol)–best of luck to you. I’m sure it is not easy when faced with competition that you just can’t handle. (lol) I am the ripe age of 38 and have had many great relationships with white women–but in the end-I chose to marry an Indonesian woman. She has an MBA from Wharton and still knows how to be a woman, and yes, although we can both afford to have junk food we do eat sambal and nasi almost every night.
Tomaculum: Not sure about German babes. Great for fooling around ( have had a few) but I dont know about marriage. Most seem to be tramps that will lay down for pint and a spleef. You sound like you need to go down to Kota (Stadium, 1001 or Crown) for some re-education.
I live in Singapore and prior to Singapore I lived in Jakarta. This whole thing started because Julia got dumped for a younger woman who happens to be Indonesian. The younger woman could have easily been a younger Australian woman. My experience with Australian women is that they are mostly ‘tarts’ that have the spirit but not the genetics to be good in bed.
The subject for this forum is dating Indonesian women. So, again, I state my belief that Indonesian women are the best in the world. If you are here to talk about the benefits of dating western women then I suggest you register for the Jerry Springer show and get the f*ck off this thread you pathetic whiners.
you sure know how to pick em! German women who will lay down for a pint and a spliff!? Tony…. Australian women don’t have the ‘genetics’ to be good in bed? Why are their legs fused together???? LOL…. you guys are victims of generalization disease…..
what so Indonesian women won’t lie down for a pint and a spliff!? They are ‘genetically’ better in bed????
That’s like me saying Indonesian men have small dicks….
ahem… hardly true would you say?
Tony, you are a heartless prick. Divorce/separation/break up or whatever you call it is one of the most bitter and painful experiences anyone can ever deal with. Telling people to f*ck off just shows how low you are. I agree with Janma, you guys are victims of generalisation disease. Maybe it’s you who attracted the tarts. If they didnt think twice about you and you still got laid then what’s with the bitterness? It was a win win situation, maybe not so for the girls. You want to sound superior and a bit of a womaniser but seriously you are just an arrogant prick.
I feel for you Julita but you seem to catch the disease too. Not all Indo women are like that. Judging from your story, it sounds you have a stupid husband who doesnt mind being ripped off. Maybe the girl doesnt even know he is (was, which one?)married. So you better off getting a lawyer, dont get mad, just get everything, get him to pay for the lawyer too. But dont forget to also analyse what and where it went wrong. It takes two to make a relationship work and it takes two to make it fail.
Dear Janma, girl,
“you sure know how to pick em! German women who will lay down for a pint and a spliff!?”
I surely don’t know how to pick them and I don’t know any german woman who will lay down for a pint and a spliff. Maybe because I didn’t look for such?
I have my “good half of my life beside me and (you believe it or not) have have “persuade” her with brain. Surprised? Yes, Janma, there are still women and men with their brain on its natural place: between the ears and not between the legs.
sounds like you are a womanizer with your experience with so many women from Australia, Germany, Indonesia etc. I surely can not keep it up with you.
But, back to the topic, what are you looking for? Women to lay down?
Every one gets what he is looking for and what he needs, doesn’t he, Tony?
Indonesian women are the best? In which case? …..
Wow, you sounds really like a womanizer. Wow, again, Tony.
And thanks for your tip for my reeducation. A pitty that I’m not looking for such important things.
get the f*ck off this thread you pathetic whiners.
Not the wittiest comment, telling people to f*ck off. Simple name-calling’s not that clever either. Anyone can do it, as the women you’re complaining about have proven so well. Also, really, really below the belt to bring allegedJulia’s private life into the picture.
What’s needlin’ your noggin’ ?
And as for Julia — lovely comment:
“Face it: asian women are much more accepting of inferior men than any other race.”
Charming. But just curious to know — which of the 1.5 or so billion Asian women are you talking about ? Or just the ones you’ve met ?
Oh, yes, and ‘race’. What exactly do you mean by that ? Skin-colour. Hate to break it to you, but race is a very, very discredited idea. No such thing as races, Julia, except in people’s minds. That is a scientist couldn’t tell you a Cracker from a Coon with a microscope except for one variable out of 50 or so: Melanin (skin color pigment).
Nothing like dragging conversations down to the lowest common denominators — race, sex and hate to keep a thread going.
Good work, Tony and Julia…
Tomaculum: Dude, I’m starting to doubt your hetero credentials. Don’t be so sensitive. Have you ever been to 1001 in Jakarta? Don’t knock it till ya try it. I think you are prime candidate for the Jerry Springer Show. Go Easy on Janma she/he/whatever didn’t read too closely–too many spleefs and pints (LOL). I made the comments about German babes (not you) and I stand by every word.
Ihaknt: Heartless Prick!! (LOL) Muchisimas Gracias!! I’m not bitter–(life is too good to me). I have made the rounds and decided that Indonesian women are the absolute best on the planet-cantik-eksotis dan seksi!! Mereka mengerti artinya “percaya diri”. I’m not telling anyone to f*ck off, but, again, this thread is about dating Indonesian women–NOT–”Hey lets run these women into the ground because my husband would rather be happy as opposed to sh*t-house miserable”–that is not right either.
Janma: You are aboslutely right–there is too much generalization going on here. Regarding Aussie babes-It’s not that their legs are fused together–they just don’t have the right moves. That’s the nicest way I can say it.
You all are taking youselves way too serious. Clearly, there are good/bad women in every culture. Western/Asian/African/Vulcan (LOL) but again, not to beat a dead horse–the intent of this thread is not to rail on Indonesian women but rather celebrate them and discuss issues that arise while dating them not listening to Western women rag on them coz they can’t keep a man.
Every time a western guy end up with an Asian woman who is not from the West–Western men and women make up these fantasies that she is just him and he so lame coz he is with her. Maybe they are just happy together–have any of you ever considered this? No great secret–just human nature.
Btw, if any of you have hubbies that you want to sue, let me know–I’m a lawyer.
I apologise – I am not meaning to sound racist or be derogotive of anybody.
Tony has turned this thread into a comparison between how women look – I gather he has a very lovely wife so can afford to call others ugly, etc.
Again, Tony, I re-iterate – only now you have proved the point. You are a nasty piece of work who has turned this discussion into something ugly.
I must point out to you that I am not cheap, not fat, don’t lie down(?) for a spleef etc. In fact I am a very nice, kind, funny and attractive person. Oh and Tony, my husband would agree with me. He would not (I sincerely hope) agree with a word you say as he has a German daughter and a half french son (mine) and we are both dark skin, dark eyes and dark hair! You don’t need to defend yourself and this puzzles me nor does anybody need to refer to sex.
I initially asked a question on this thread primarily to Indonesian girls – I would prefer to have heard from your wife than you – you are still more western than you think? Bon appetite Julia
Julia, sorry I called you Julita.
Tony, do you tell your clilents to F off too and call them pathetic whiners when they are telling you their problems? Must be tough in your line of job, as you do deal with people with problems.
The Good Indonesia Girls won’t hunt bule for her husband because the typical local ladies pick by the bule are a typical face maid ( muka babu) , from poor families and norak (heavy make-up).
The good Indonesian ladies don’t need bule to take care her because in here available the better women lovers for her like myself.
HAHAHAAHAH, a very amusing article for sure. Well, I dont care where people come from but I personally think we cant generalise a whole race/community, there is always an exception. There are ugly western women, there are ugly Asian women.
Sure we can’t generalize a whole race, group or community. But there are trends that are quite obvious. In the end it all boils down to percentages. And sometimes these percentages jump right in your face.
…Basically, its not how western women look at all, it’s how they treat you?…
I agree with you 100%. Attitude, like friendlyness and charm, are way more important and can be very sexy. But maybe in this respect many Western women could learn a lesson from their Asian sisters. A lot of Western women nowadays believe they have to prove themselves constantly in an agressive and bitchy way, and this can be a real turn-off.
I started chatting with this lady online from Jakata, a couple of weeks ago. She seems like a intelligent, educated women, who has her own job and money. She told me that she is 34 years old and is still a virgin, and has an Italian bf, but they only hug and kiss. At first I found this really hard to belive, but the more we chatted, it seemed like she had no reason to lie to me. She also told me that her bf, is a traveling businessman, who is away from her most of the time, and that he refuses to get married to her. She seems to spend a lot of her free time alone in her apartment and doesn’t have any close friends. Does anyone have any insight to why a woman in her mid 30′s would want to remain a virgin. Is it religious reasons, or is there something else going on here.
“Tomaculum: Dude, I’m starting to doubt your hetero credentials.”
Tony, ripe and educated man/woman wouldn’t write such niveau-less thing, would they?
I am an American, who dated several Indonesian women
and married one. I have dated many American women.
All I have to say, is that, I found the Indonesian women
more interested in finding a good, caring and family oriented
man. Unlike American women, who are more interested in
“How much Money do You make”. I also found, that to me,
Asian women or more erotic and exotic than any other race.
Every person is different and I just married the girl that I fell
in Love with from the moment I saw her. We have been married for
7 years and still have a healthy relationship. Yes, we have our
disagreements, but that is part of living together and it does
take both of us to work thru these situations.
I have to say, that there are bad people in all races and cultures.
Tomaculum: Get over it. I can tell that you are not a native english speaker–no prob. Don’t interpret to literally–that was a colloquialism–vernacular–slang saying native to NA. Again, don’t be so sensitive.
Ihaknt: I tell my clients worse than that–when you sue somone it is the worst thing that you can do to another human being short of causing them bodily harm–make no mistake, when people come to me it is because they cannot solve their problems without a fight–I am not there to comfort them, I am there to do battle on their behalf–they are not looking for a shoulder to cry on, they are looking for payback. Sensitive lawyers become cannon fodder in a courtroom. As long as there is conflict the world will always need lawyers–the inabililty to resolve differences amongst the human race keeps me rolling in the dough
Let’s start with a fresh new discussion concerning the positive aspects of Sundanese women, they are so much hotter than Balinese or Javanese women:
-Big beautiful eyes
-Hot bodies (yikes!)
-Great open attitude towards partying and having fun (yes!)
-Nice legs (must be the water in Bandung)
-They love with pure, unadulterated passion.
Anyone else a fan of Mojang Prianagan??
Dewa, I am an Indo myself, but I still disagree with you that what was said wasnt a generalisation.
Asian women can be bitches too. What Asian women can learn from western women is to stand up for themselves. Too many are too obedient and accepting. And western women can learn from us how to cook. I dont know, but I still think the differences are there to learn from. Pick the positive and leave the negative.
and now we know what you’re looking for. Have fun.
Tony – rolling in dough, suing someone the worse thing one could do to somebody, eyes, bodies, legs… – I repeat – PLONKER of no consequence. I am sure you have heard this before – most of your adult life. You are putting me right off Canadians so please for the sake of your country – BE QUIET.
Tony, when you have finished shooting yourself in the foot, feel free to consult me.
To everybody else who contributed to this subject – thanks; I feel much better!!??
I’ve been chatting online with a lady from Jakarta for a few weeks now. She appears to be intelligent, articulate, and educated. She’s 34 years old and claims to be a virgin. At first I found this hard to believe, but the more I chatted with her, I had no reason not to believe her. She told me that she has a Italian bf, who’s traveling businessman, and is not around much. They hug and kiss, but thers’s no sex. She appears to have an isolated existence, and her only communication with anyone, is online while she’s at work. Is she remaining a virgin because of religious convictions, or is there something else going on here. I would appreciate any feedback from anyone who lives in Indonesia and understands the culture.
God can some get this ugly cow off this thread? This is a forum about Indonesian women and experiences with them. This isn’t a fat housewife who can’t please a man whine like a banshee forum. Go to match.com you pig.
My only real suggestion is to cut back on the junk food and overeating, and do two 1 hour sessions of cardio per day. Also, to tighten up the flapping underarms and the huge billowing thighs, I suggest a weightlifting regimen along with some outdoor hiking.
Plus bathing regularly and shaving your pubic hair,ass hair,back hair? and underarms would surely be a help in keeping a husbands interest, no? My Indonesian fiance is completely clean of body hair and that keeps me coming back to her every time.
Just a few hints for those special-ed aussie ladies out there.
Julia: Perhaps you can find another forum that is more appropriate for your jaded bitterness. As Mr. Knight so very politely said to you: This forum is for the sharing of experiences with regards to dating Indonesian women (hotties). It would probably be more appropriate for your soon to be, happy and elated ex-husband to join and share with us his wonderful experience with Indonesian women (or woman).
Back to the disucssion at hand:
Michael: No body hair is totally sexy! Again, I beleive that he Sundanese women are very prone to not having body hair, which means they spend less time shaving and more time having fun. Now I should qualify this and state that some of the most beautiful women in Indonesia are found on the island of Kalimantan, the Chinese women (Amoy) and the Dayak women are stunning.
Any thoughts? Would love to hear the experience of others.
My fiance is japanese/indo, her grandfather was in the japanese army. So she has a really japanese face, but the small voluptuous indo body(javanese). You know the kind, 4’11”, 93lbs, large breasts(c-cup), nice bubble butt. She is coming to the states in August to live with me. Any tips on getting the visa expedited, I am an american citizen. I make good money, and we plan on not having children till much much later. I am 26 she is 22.
Still, while I was in Bali, wow i had some fun with some beautiful balinese girls, they are tall, dark, with a little hair on them. I went clubbing at the 666 club and walked away with 2 beautiful balinese girls and went to my Villa right outside of town. Still all fun aside, I think I met the one I am keeping for life. She was honestly the most beautiful girl in every club we went to and my eyes tried to wander but they couldn’t stay off her=).
Sound like you made he right choice, good fo you–remember my friend–life is too short, enjoy while it lasts. I too have partied hard at the 66, many times, but each time I brought my babe with me. Have brought five different women to Bali and each partied from 9:00pm to 9:00 am the next day. The last time I was there, I stayed at the Villas–private pool–gret for nude dancing and swimming I am on this thread after rolling in from a night of partying here in Singapore–some amazing talent out and about earlier tonight.
Regarding your visa–I am a duel citizen of Canada/USA as my father is Canadian and Mom is an American. What I know is that you need to bet the fiance visa but it is only good for 3-6 months and if you don’t get married she has to come back to Indo. You will need to show the US Embassy photos of the two of you together as well as some statements from friends who know the both of you and can testify to your relationship. I don’t know where you met your fiance but never say you met in a club–always say you were introduced. Unfortuantely there are some jealous “COWS” working at the embassy who can’t bear to see another hottie coming to the US–Western women just go nuts over Western guys choosing Asian Hotties over them as you can see from this thread. Your fiance visa may take up to eight months depending on socio-political issues.
The alternative is that you get married in Indo and then apply for the Visa. As long as you can prove that you make a minimum of $20K per year to support the both of you then I don’t see a problem–process should take a maximum of 90 days.
Well, I gotta crash–almost 6:00 am, I think? I need to gete to my office by at least 12:00 today to do some work. Anyway, good luck and I look forward to seeing you on this thread when we can discuss the better aspects of Indonesian women.
PS: Stay away from cows like Julia–they have some kind of disease called “sh*t-house miserable”
Tony do you have a IM screenname or something? Please contact me on IM if you can, you have alot of valuable knowledge and I would like to speak with you.
My IM screenname is MJBorunda
please send me an IM so i can get your email info.
P.S. If a person can earn the ire of a small group of ppl on a forum in a short time, you wonder how bad their personality must be in real life. If I don’t get a hug a kiss and a beer as soon as I get home, I would say my wife failed at her job that day completely.
Is your “American” mom aware of your opinion towards western girls/women? Or is she just another “cow”?
Thanks to your kind we have people like Amrozy justifying his action.
Hi, Achmad Sudarsono,
now I understand what you meant in some of your comments sometimes ago.
But that is not my business as long as they don’t abuse children. Cause those women can decide “freely” to go with: a man with brain between the ears or with one which brain runs riot between their legs.
Or others: with a man with penis or with a penis with a little bit brain ca. 70 cm higher.