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Beware of Oigal. He is anti-Muslim.
Thanks for that info
Are talking about Oz girls or Asia and Middle east ?? Its also a mix of culture as i said, and its tradition.
I ever study a primitive tribe from Sumatra jungle, at 2005 they still have this ritual that married with 14 y/o girl. And thats their custom law, and its allowed because thats the way they live, thats the way they grow their groups, and i also read static that theres only less than 8 babies were born in a year and not all alive.
Its not like you or me, we raised modern way (short of), we’re raised and educated that woman had more purpose beside get married and had a child. Our parent school us, until university.. until.. what age ?? 18 ?? 19 ?? and then we want to had our job cause these days were (almost) equal as man, we use our short skirt and high heels and walk along with our male co-workers… its not happening like 2000 years ago !
And the maturity is also a different stuff. People at 1000 before now made a girl to be ready to had family so they were independent, could take care of them self. Were now much spoiled and better protected.
Its just in some areas, place, or different TIME LINE people don’t do that.
No school back at 2000 year before, no university. Not even electricity to access internet for “child protection” information.
In fact it was really funny when you mentioned child protection at those years where ever in earth.. THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS THAT.
But these days, when we had United Nation and country and more laws, a child is protected. These days people already UNDERSTAND how important early years in human life or childhood for forming a good human being (good is a universal terms, as it could change time by time).
And as those knowledge having progress, we then know.. older guys that after children is known as “pedophile”. This terms.. first time used in.. what year ??? 1900 ?? nope.. its recent Oigal.
Of course every child have a right for their own life and its our job to protect them and i always agree with this.
I think this is what i think Oigal incase if you don’t understand what i’m trying to say.
He is Ozzie. I don’t think you can get anything into his thick skull. Who is he to question Allah Subhana Wa Ta’ala wisdom? I hope this will put the final nail in his coffin and shut him up for good.
After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar)
‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat – literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child).
What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha – the mother of believers – may Allah be pleased with her ?
After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:
As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancÃ©e Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men.
@ Farah, @};-
Hahahaha……testosterone ha? Yeah I think thats the reason, you are right. So, is the weather in Jambi now a days? My girlfriend said it is raining now a days in Jakarta, she got wet yesterday when she was returning back to home from office hahaha…last night when I was chatting with her in yahoo messenger, I told her about this blog and about you also…..actually she already know about you……I told her 2 weeks before…..she is happy that I have one friend in Indonesia also……do you chat in yahoo messenger ha?
Cultural differences aside, we are basically all the same; we have wants and needs. These need to be thoroughly addressed.
Its raining and very strong wind, once when i drive from city center there’s someone roof flying to street in to front of my car, thanks God no car behind our car when i hit the brake. Feels like in twister movie. Never seen anything like that before, ever !
Yes its still raining season, but i think soon it will be over at least end of April, and we will have long hot dry season.
Yes i do sometime chat on YM, but lately there’s seem problem with YM (or my YM??).
hehehe.. hope she wont get jealous with me.
Oh thats very bad weather ha? Drive carefully ha? Dont get any accident ok. I care for you coz you are a good girl and good friend. Hhahahahahaha, yeah maybe she can be jealous if I get close to you, but she knows that I will not do that. You are just a friend, good friend with whom I can share my feelings. I really love my girlfriend and both of us trust each other a lot. I always tell her “Aku cinta kamu” and she replies to me “Aku cinta kamu seyang”. Saya sangat mencintai dia………hahahahaha……..im learning her language now…….she always teach me…hehehehe……..ok Farah…….take care…..bye for now…..
Good, you learn Indonesia language, that would give you some respect from real Indonesian
Yes sure we’re online good friend i am just teasing you. So when the date is? did both of you already set it ?
I am happy for you !
I’ll help you out. When you meet your sweetheart your first words should be
Aku cinta kamu, kamu cinta aku
Aku akan datang ke rumahmu
and then let nature run its course.
Yeah its great fun learning Bahasa Indonesian u know……now I also can sing Indonesia Raya also…….Indonesia, tanah airku, Tanah tumpah darahku, Disanalah aku berdiri, Jadi pandu ibuku……….hehehehe……..;;)……hmm.. actually u know….Im collecting money to marry her…im saving everymonth some money u know…….we are yet to finalize the dates……but ill surely let u know when we decide that…….but it will take some time u know…….coz flying to indonesia, marry her and take here is very costly……and ill have to buy her tickets also…..coz she dont have that much money to purchase her ticket also…….and also my other expences in Jakarta like hotel expences, travel, food etc. u know…..both of us are very eagerly waiting for that beautiful moment when we first meet and marry……..and start our married life in India…..thanks for you wishes Farah, it gives me strength if I have someone good friend like you to give me support….please pray for us okay? Bye for now…..take care…
Thanks for your support dear friend…….but first of all can you please explain ur ID’s meaning? You told me about saying to her this sentence: “Aku cinta kamu, kamu cinta aku… Aku akan datang ke rumahmu”, but I think Im not able to comprehend what this sentence exactly means? Maybe I can make a little bit but not exact meaning can you translate for me please? Thanks for your message…….take care……bye for now…..
Sunny, don’t worry about the translation. Just say the words. Your sweetheart will be all smiles. Trust me.
hehehe.. teach him to tease.. rayuan pulau kelapa..
Yeah sure……..I will surely say this to her……and I really want to know what will be her reaction…….please tell me some sentences like that ha? thanks buddy.
I really want to tease my would be wife……I will surely use it……I want to see her face when I will say to her……I believe this is something full love and naughty maybe…….hahahahaha……
but first of all can you please explain ur ID’s meaning?
Oh yes, about my ID. Actually it’s Dewa Ratu Gede Anom, but I omitted the spaces to save bits and bytes in the internet . In Bali we usually have a habit to be quite lavish and wasteful you know, also with names, so I wanted to set a good example.
Roughly translated it means ‘Divine King, Great and Youthful’. Yes, inferiority complexes are also alien to us. But friends can call me Dewa Gede or simply Dewa.
You know what? Here in India, people in the city of Bombay worship one God named Lord Ganesha…….they call him Dewa…….hahahaha……nice meaning ur name has got.. congrats…….good ur parents who gave you this name……so live in Bali ha? nice place ha? I saw in some TV channel which shoes about travelling and different tourist destinations around the world…..and u know when it comes to Indonesia……I always want to learn more and more……hehehe you know why ha?…….bye for now……take care….
Bye the way what do you mean by “rayuan pulau kelapa….”, please translate ha? I believe it should be something naughty ha? …….take care …….bye for now…..:-)
Bule or not bule, doesnt matter. We did not ask God in which shape we were born. I am proud to be Indonesian,muslim lady and educated person.I am from Java and my husband is also bule. He is practising muslim as well as my family and his family. Thanks God we are all having chance to have education so i never had mind that bule will make me better person.
I was accepted in among the best university in Indonesia and at the moment I am still studying economy in university of Sarajevo.Well….Bosnia is also in Europe….so..bule are everywhere.
In my faculty, i never well that i am less worthy ..i have same chance like other bule. Here with my hijab, they can recognize me as muslim. I have many non muslim teachers too..no problem with them.
My family are open minded peope..thanks God. They give bless for our marrige. For them, as well as I decide for right path and my hapiness, the skin colour is not matter. We have one son now.
When I was in Indonesia, it wasnt easy to find suitable person for me. Maybe just no destiny..thats all.
Hope i will be as lucky and blessed as you are, a husband and could keep my faith
It is good for you that have found a perfect match for you……Good luck for the rest of ur life…….May God give you all the happiness……marrying in some country is never easy……but if you are educated then u can adjust in any kind of societies outside of ur country…….coz education makes u the person who can see beyond their counties cultural boundries and if you look around you……the world is really a beautiful place…..it always depends on the person and his or her mindset……take care ………bye for now……
Hey Farah, dont worry, just keep ur faith on God…..maybe God has his own plans for you? Just wait for the right moment and im sure that moment will come in ur life…….when ur prince charming will come to take you……Im sure that God will send his “Destiny’s Child” for you………take care…..bye…..
Thanks for the pray. Yes sure, eventually there will be someone, i still believe that, but for now, happy being single
Thats nice if you are strong from heart and happy being single also……I know its not always easy…..but if you are happy……Im also happy…..coz u are good person and a nice friend…..take care…..bye for now……:-)
There are beautiful women in every country; so drop the bullsh*t from both sides. I happen to not like most western women, but a lot of them are good looking. From what I’ve seen of Indonesian women, they’re cheap sluts that happen to be LBFM’s who treat Bule like ATMs. Do you blame them?? Here is they’re economic situation: they’re born in sh*t-hole country; both sides use the other; the women want money, the Bule’s want ASS. Case closed.
Aluang Anak Bayang:
Hey, dont you have bomb to strap to your chest?? You always talking, talking, talking Islam–why you not go to pesantren and abuse children–that the hobby of muslim teachers (lol). You like to say mean thing to Aussie but they better than muslim.
Bitter: You exactly right. All the bule always go to Blok-M. You get better service in north jakarta–the real Indonesia. You make good point. If the Indonesian work more and do Islam less maybe they have a better country. Without Chinese people they have no economy.
Are you Indonesian too? If yes…I like to know you to be friend…..yeah…..
I’m a merried women too, maybe we can share our story life about marriage with western, bla7X…because sometimes I found that really hard…:(
I had two lovely kids too, 5 and 2 yrs old…..so since that….I can’t think about my self anymore.
And this is to other indonesian women too who merried to westerner.
I had two lovely kids too, 5 and 2 yrs old”¦..so since that”¦.I can’t think about my self anymore.
Bule.. or no bule kids… with two kids.. you will have no time for your self.. hehe at least until they were not really depend on you anymore..
Hey….I just cant understand why people here in this beautiful thread get back to square one…and that is…debating about religions ha? There are lot of other things to talk about other than religion and fighting about religion……what is happening now a days with people around the world…….they dont have any other work to do? Just talking bullsh*t about each other’s religions…..ha?….sometimes I feel so much annoyed by all this…..oh God help ur children and teach them to be tolerant towards other religions and learn how to respect humanity…..Amin
Your comment sounded really harsh.
As an Indonesian women i feel really sad reading all the comments and stereotypes about all Indonesian women in general.
Yes I agree there are good looking women in every country but we have to remember there are bad and good people in every country and in every race as well.
I don’t really know the situation in jakarta and about the women there, particularly the one what they called as a Gold Digger.
It’s humiliating me as I am myself an indonesian women married to a westener guy, but how come I have never heard about this things until 2 days ago when I was in google searching for information about kare ayam (chicken curry) recipe and I end up reading this forum because I was really curious.
It’s very wrong to generalize that all indonesian are like that because I am not one of them. I grew up in a small town, brought up by good loving parents, never live in Jakarta and I met my husband when I was doing my job training at the hotel few years ago. We dated for more than a year and he purposed me when I get my first job in another place. We’ve been married for more than 5 years now and everything goes smoothly. We both are living in singapore now as he had to move for his new job.
There must be a lot of good women out there. You have to find the right person and from the right place (I am talking about women in general from every country and from every race not just Indonesian)
Ignore them.. just shallow minded people.
Don’t fight with a pig, as you will get dirty TOO. If we do, we just got dirty, but the pig will get dirty and happy.
Nothing wrong with pigs. All animals are better than humans ever will be.