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1. Burung Koel Says:
   March 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

   think John Howard in Oz was fairly cunning*, and undemocratic, about this though, he played to anti-immigration sentiment of people to win elections while at the same time overseeing a massive increase in immigration

   Despite the rants and raves of the ignorant left, JH obviosly was not the anti-immigrant PM as so joyously painted by the trough feeders.

   I think Patung realises that, hence the backhanded compliment to Howard’s ‘cunning’. I would further suggest that Howard’s dog-whistle politics were deliberately aimed at cultivating an anti-immigration image, which played to his base vote, and and he didn’t need any one on the left to help him.

   * As cunning as a fox that’s just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University, Baldrick?

2. Oigal Says:
   March 21st, 2009 at 8:41 am

   Howard’s dog-whistle politics were deliberately aimed at cultivating an anti-immigration image, which played to his base vote,

   He was a very smart pollie although I would disagree that anti-immigration was a “base vote”.

   Personally I would find it hard to understand why anyone would dispute a hard line on illegal immigration (and I hope they spare us the evil locking up the illegals rant..want to comapre the Malaysian, Singapore, Indonesian policy..quick where is the bamboo rod).

   Having said that, most sane people/countries understand that planned immigration brings untold benefits and wealth to the nation. PM Krudds latest cuts is the latest in a string on knee jerk, distructive and populist policies playing to the very basest level of Australian fears.

   Lot of truth in the saying KRUDD is no leader people follow him out sheer disbelief that one man could do so much damage in such a short time

3. Burung Koel Says:
   March 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm

   He was a very smart pollie although I would disagree that anti-immigration was a “base vote”.

   What I meant was that the Pauline Hanson-generated anti-immigration business affected the Coalition (especially the Nationals in Queensland) more than it did Labor – something that party strategists on both sides soon realised. While not quite as significant as the DLP split in the ’50s keeping Labor out of power, it certainly had the potential to affect merginal seats in close elections – remember that Beazley got more total votes that Howard in both ‘98 and ‘01. Howard said very clever things on refugees and Aborigines to give the impression that the Coalition agreed with a lot of fringe racist groups, mainly to ensure that the Coalition would not leak votes from the heartland.

4. Oigal Says:
   March 21st, 2009 at 1:11 pm

   Mmm interesting take..would love to discuss further but not the forum I guess..

5. Patung Says:
   March 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm

   Howard said very clever things on refugees and Aborigines to give the impression that the Coalition agreed with a lot of fringe racist groups, mainly to ensure that the Coalition would not leak votes from the heartland.

   Yes that was what I meant about the ‘cunning’ bit….

   PM Krudds latest cuts is the latest in a string on knee jerk, distructive and populist policies playing to the very basest level of Australian fears.

   Straight out of that socialist newspaper you had me reading….

6. Mike Oxblack Says:
   March 29th, 2009 at 9:08 am

   Back on topic I’m interested in this word “socialization” as is used often in Indonesia with respect to unpopular policies. What does it involve exactly? A few posters and some Sellotape?

7. Burung Koel Says:
   March 30th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

   Back on topic I’m interested in this word “socialization” as is used often in Indonesia with respect to unpopular policies. What does it involve exactly? A few posters and some Sellotape?

   I was hoping someone else would jump in here. I’m an outsider and can only offer a limited perspective, one that is heavily skewed to the ’socialisation’ process used in aid projects. And, to protect the innocent (i.e. me) I can’t give specific examples.

   I’m not sure where you come from, Mike, but you might like to think of ’socialisation’ of policies and legislation as being like the Green Paper/White Paper process in Westminster democracies. The idea is to generate discussion, as well as familiarise people and stakeholders with the intent of any proposed policy or legislative change. However in Indonesia, this sometimes gets done after the policy and/or legislation has been more or less agreed/finalised by the department or the parliament. In these circumstances, the process is then more about ’selling’ the resulting decisions to the people.

   In aid projects (where I am more comfortable), the design will build in a period of ’socialisation’ with a range of activities aimed at making stakeholders/beneficiaries familiar with what the project is about, what it means for them, the level of commitment expected and so on. These activities could be as simple as seminars for counterparts or as extensive as a publicity campaign. Personally, I think these processes have a place, if done correctly, as they involve as many people as possible and increase ownership of the project. Too often projects are kept within the bureaucracy for reasons ranging from maintaining control of resources, poor communication and because of departmental turf wars. A good socialisation process can help overcome some of these problems.

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