57 Comments on “Timor Leste Relations”
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Patung Says:
November 7th, 2008 at 12:43 pmMy advice to the social worker – keep up with this new therapy, it’s working wonders for the Major…
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Major (retd) Timothy Doggington-Smythe Says:
November 8th, 2008 at 4:12 amHah! What did I tell you? Eh? Whatsit? One whiff of white discipline and the threat of a good thrashing and this Puerile bloody Negro bolts for the hills like the squealer he and his kind always are…
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dragonwall Says:
November 8th, 2008 at 4:53 amTo all,
If all of us look carefully and tread through his comments, he seemed to be very well informed person, but I see nothing concrete that he can backed all those up.
When others go avisiting, he just let his hands do the walking. No wonder Rob said he is a serial masterbatur.
Go easy Major, no one seemed to agree on anything this old chap said. He detest everyone from European countries and Asia. But if you say something that sort of side ABRI and Indonesia, then he will start to licking like what he said a dog born in a barn won’t be a horse.
This guy is a coward, a traitor, discriminator, Chinese hater who will never become a nationalist. And he boast of that when he dies he will be buried at Kalibata and honored like a traitor…I bet.
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November 8th, 2008 at 4:55 amSorry Rob..wrong spelling..you know this guy said of my barely coherent english. ha.ha..
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Purba Negoro Says:
November 8th, 2008 at 5:23 pmAmusing albeit useless attempts at baiting me Timdog, Rob or Patung.
You’re welcome to ask your Gurkha ‘hard men’ how soft we Javanese are.
More please- you’re the Dragonwall of the bules.
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Oigal Says:
November 8th, 2008 at 7:07 pmattempts at baiting
I used to that years ago with wild dogs, not pretty work but never the less a necessary social service..mmmm
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November 8th, 2008 at 7:07 pmNow look here bumboy, you’ll learn to show a bit of respect when there’s a white man around, or you’ll be in for such a hiding you won’t even be able to wear your woman’s skirt for a week, what!
Mumbai? That what the bloody Hindoos are calling Bombay these days? Never had much gratitude, the Hindoos, but at least they had a damn sight more culture and brains that the bloody, whatsit, Javanese, eh!
Hah! Puerile bloody whatsit!
The clap? not a chance of it old boy, had the prostate out a decade ago, and in any case, never much liked the chaps myself. Give me a bit of the old rump and tit anyday – hah! Lahore nautch girls! Now we’re talking.
Of course, buggery has its place, TE Lawrence and whatnot, boys together, quivering in the hot yielding sand, quenching their urges in each others’ clean limbs and all that. You don’t spend 14 years in public school without learning a thing or two, what!But there’s a big difference between buggery and being a pansy, and I’ll tell you something – these Javanese are pansies, the lot of them – worse than women, what!
Now little Johnny Gurkha’s a fine fellow, no doubt about it, but still nothing to a Pathan. Finest fighting man on earth, still is, old man, still is. I hear from the chaps at the Club that these Taliban are still dishing out a good dusting to our boys now and again, even bagged themselves a Gurkha last week. Fabulous stuff, what!
Ah the Pathan! What a man! Great deal of respect for them, what. The Pathan’s not averse to a bit of buggery himself, but by god, he’d wipe the floor with these skirt-wearing Javanese woofdahs! -
November 9th, 2008 at 12:30 amWhat is the weather like in Swaziland these days Major, trouble in Rhodesia I see.
Johnny Mugabee isn’t letting your Jews lads onto his platinum fields, the rotter.
And the Keenyans dare pop you off to jail the minute you pot one of their tribe chappies for the den wall.Is the colonic prolapse still effecting you or is that Ceylonese Tamil cabin boy lend his helping, soft hands?
PS- you are a relative of Kenneth Moore, aren’t you?
PS- more please Sahib, there’s a good chap.
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November 9th, 2008 at 3:24 amNow it will become harder for you to accept when you say
You’re welcome to ask your Gurkha ‘hard men’ how soft we Javanese are
No, you don’t represent the whole Javanese or any Indonesian Community and you don’t fit at all bar none.
I don’t need to because when young I mix with these people when they were stationed at Pulau Belakang Mati.
My grandad was a good friend of the Chief of Command during the British Occupation in Singapore. We own amusement parks because the whole Hokian Community in Singapore were more than just close. They are simply amazing like what you see now the high rises.
So did you see how small you are?.. Albeit your all bar none…crap.
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Mat Salleh Says:
November 10th, 2008 at 6:06 pmSo TAPOL is an invention of British intelligence? Yeah right, just like Campaign Against Arms Trade, the Anti-Apartheid Movement, the Cuba Solidarity Campaign – ha, ha, ha!
Come on, people, should we be surprised that there are Indonesians who think like this? There are Japanese who think that they did nothing wrong in Korea, sixty years after they left, – however at least the Koreans have backbone, and weaned themselves off dependence on their old ruler, unlike the Timorese.
If Indonesia had behaved like the Indians did in Goa and China did in Macau, then ‘Timor Leste’ would have been painlessly integrated into Indonesia. In fact, if Sukarno had taken it over in the early 1960s, when Indonesia was the darling of the Western left, and Portugal was a pariah fascist dictatorship, he could have got away with it. Salazar would have shed crocodile tears, but a few years later, Lisbon would have restored ties with Jakarta, backdated recognition of Indonesian sovereignty of East Timor to the day of the takeover, and then forgotten about it.
Goa still has its own legal system – civil code, also used in Indonesia, not English common law, like the rest of India, and Konkani is an official language. Macau enjoys the same status within China as Hong Kong – the only reason Portugal didn’t leave in the 1970s was because the Chinese were still trying to formulate the ‘One Country, Two Systems’ policy. So in thge interim, Macau became a ‘Chinese territory under temporary Portuguese administration’.
Even Apodeti wanted autonomy within Indonesia, but ABRI said ‘no’ Even Ali Alatas advocated it, but Suharto said the existing daerah istimewa should be phased out.
Tetum is a pidgin language
Typical Indonesian arrogance towards ‘bahasa daerah’ – the original form of Tetum, called Tetun-Terik, is largely free from borrowings from other languages.
Anyway, what would ‘Indonesian’ be if it weren’t for borrowings from Sanskrit – bumi, putera, raja, bahasa or Arabic – waktu, umum, dunia, majelis? Or Portuguese – kemeja, sepatu, keju, gereja, sekolah, garpu, roda, jendela? Or nowadays, English (or pseudo-Dutch or Latin) ones – stabilitas, asmilasi, kuriositas, diskusi
Answer: a Malay pidgin, confined to the Riau Islands. (By the way, as a native English speaker I’m grateful that English is a mongrel language, thanks to the Norman Conquest, because while I wouldn’t want to speak French, I wouldn’t want to speak German either.)
It makes me laugh the way Purba and Achmad on this forum think their country is some kind of superpower – maybe some Australians think like that, but in North America or Western Europe? Indonesia just means ‘Bali’. We think of Indonesia in the same way as Australia thinks of Brazil – not very much and not very often. And we prefer to learn languages of serious Asian countries, like China and India, not of some flimsy by-product of Dutch colonialism.
Yes, we know Indonesia tries to big itself up by banging on about ‘Afro-Asian Solidarity’ ‘Spirit of Bandung’, and the ‘Non-Aligned Movement’, but what do Indonesians know or care about Africa anyway? They’re just as racist as white people. ‘Non-Aligned solidarity’ means ‘we have nothing in common apart from the fact that we hate the West”.
As fo Singapore, you’re just jealous, because it’s everything Indonesia isn’t – clean, efficient, and free of corruption. Being kicked out of Malaysia was the best thing ever to happen to the Lion City.
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November 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pmI haven’t had much praise for just about anyone, but this is the best thing a Native English commentator had gave to Indonesians.
It makes me laugh the way Purba and Achmad on this forum think their country is some kind of superpower – maybe some Australians think like that, but in North America or Western Europe? Indonesia just means ‘Bali’. We think of Indonesia in the same way as Australia thinks of Brazil – not very much and not very often. And we prefer to learn languages of serious Asian countries, like China and India, not of some flimsy by-product of Dutch colonialism.
not forgetting to include people like AAB
we have nothing in common apart from the fact that we hate the West”.
As fo Singapore, you’re just jealous, because it’s everything Indonesia isn’t – clean, efficient, and free of corruption. Being kicked out of Malaysia was the best thing ever to happen to the Lion CityI salute you being able to see and view the political situation in general as a whole.
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November 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pmIsn’t Bretagne and Normandy part of France and speak dialect of France?
Singapore free of corruption. Such a lovely fairy tale.
Perhaps you can explain the missing billions from DBS currently genius?Free and fair elections in Singapore- ask Mistress Lee Kwan Yew- Minister-ess for Life.
Yet again the vast ignorance of whitey. Enjoy your credit crunch.
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November 13th, 2008 at 3:35 amYou quoted
Singapore free of corruption. Such a lovely fairy tale.
Perhaps you can explain the missing billions from DBS currently genius?What has that got to do with the bank. You are referring to Development Bank of Singapore? Are you sure you are able to backed up the billions missing? Even if so what has that got to the country’s corruption free image? If it really happened then don’t you think the government will not capitalize on the situation to further show the public of their image!
You must have thought that if the bank is in Indonesia, then the possibility exist for you to do something? Like pretending to be an ABRI guy trying to extort from them? The kind of situation that usually enrich a corrupt official in Indonesia, right?Free and fair elections in Singapore- ask Mistress Lee Kwan Yew- Minister-ess for Life.
Even if it is the case, I am sure many Singaporean, with a few digrunted ones, are quite willing to accept that. Can you find someone that will come close in comparing academic qualification with her or her son ?
Yet again another ignoramus clown of dinosaur-negara outright showing your jealousy of an achievement that many countries envy and try ti imitate.
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November 14th, 2008 at 1:33 amDragonwall,
Degrees can be easily bought and sold- just look at your own shocking English language to prove the woeful inadequacy of your education and primacy of fee-for degree.
What is there to be jealous of Singapore- its’ pathetic domestic economy will nosedive shortly.
It’s entirely reliant on Malaysia and Indonesia- otherwise its’ largest employer- Keppel- would have no work.A nation of money-lusting Hokkien peasants?
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Andy Says:
November 14th, 2008 at 2:55 pmhttp://www.etan.org/et2008/9september/20/18collab.htm
Our government has been incredibly soft on the war criminals up north. I wonder why Indonesians don’t want to kiss our butts upon reading this. Well maybe we are doing too much of that ourselves.
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November 14th, 2008 at 2:57 pmAnd this is a website recommended by Purba previously.
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November 15th, 2008 at 2:14 amDegrees can be easily bought and sold- just look at your own shocking English language to prove the woeful inadequacy of your education and primacy of fee-for degree.
Can you buy one and then tell us where to buy one?
What is there to be jealous of Singapore- its’ pathetic domestic economy will nosedive shortly.
Want to take a bet?
It’s entirely reliant on Malaysia and Indonesia- otherwise its’ largest employer- Keppel- would have no work.
So Singapore is only building ships for Indonesia and Malaysia?
A nation of money-lusting Hokkien peasants?
BTW We have Medan- essentially the same thing.Then what is Indonesia all about, what is Indonesians all about? You mean that they don’t lust for money? Then what about all putting your hands out asking for international assistance?
Look how pathethic you are!
Boasting with all the fighting as an army officer and finally admitted that you are only just a mere logistic guy in the army, doing courier jobs, and filling up government contracts?
Worst of all you do also admit that you are a medium, which means? CALO KAN. And building roads, buildings, aparments blah..blah..blah.. meaning? Most jobs from who? And yet you say you did not use a single rupiah of the chinese money!
COME ON WHERE IS YOUR “MIAN ZI” ? WHERE IS YOUR LIAN? and you even talk about “YUANFEN”? BTW WTF you know about all these? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR FACE.
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woeful inadequacy of your education
had somehow got you carried away right?
All of us here are beginning to see how pathetic you are and what a mediocre you have been.
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November 15th, 2008 at 2:37 amAndy
And this is a website recommended by Purba previously.
Is that about buying a degree? Or looking into the Indonesian Ancestry!
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November 15th, 2008 at 3:14 pmAndy,
like you said about the Philippinos- “they know which side their bread is buttered on”.Actually your link, more prove my argument that most if not all perpetrator were Timorese.
As time goes on- the truth will emerge that the reality of Timor was far less simplistic as the newspapers and NGO’s like to paint- and Timorese were not exactly angelic.Seriously Rudd does not want too many wounds open because he is very well aware Whitlam, Hawke, Beasely, Keating would all have to answer some very uncomfortable wquestions.
Not to mention Fraser and opposition Howard.
This is Real Politik- economics is the motivation. Rudd has likely been advised Australian economy will have to become more export reliant and China may not be as promising a market as hyped- so Australia has to cultivate as many good regional links as possible to earn its way out of the minor recession it seem to face.Indonesian maco economy is actually good and will endure the sub-prime recession- the micro-economy and consumer sector is suffering.
My friend who has some shop in some malls here- had to lay off workers- first time ever last year he was hiring.
2010 will be a better year for Indonesia as huge gas project start to come online. I am sure your Australian analysts have already briefed your leaders.Bragg’n'-wails- eat salmon sushi- you might just yet sprout another brain cell.
Chinese food and MSG just make you dumber. You’re proof.
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November 16th, 2008 at 3:44 amPN-This is Real Politik- economics is the motivation. Rudd has likely been advised Australian economy will have to become more export reliant and China may not be as promising a market as hyped- so Australia has to cultivate as many good regional links as possible to earn its way out of the minor recession it seem to face.
Well again, regardless as to what the ‘rakyat’ like to believe, Australia and Indonesia have always had close relations. It is the occasional spat which is more newsworthy though and the ones that have Indonesians foaming at the mouth from time to time. We are lets not forget one of the first countries to recognise Indonesia’s independence.
On to China, we have never been closer to China than we have in the last few years and Rudd is both fluent in Mandarin (he gives speeches to the Chinese in their language) and was previously an ambassador there so can only imagine those relations will get closer.
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November 16th, 2008 at 3:53 amYou mean your mcakerel economy
Indonesian maco economy is actually good and will endure the sub-prime recession- the micro-economy and consumer sector is suffering.
If you do not know about economy, sh*t the fu*ck up.
The indonesian macro is always about calculating the exchange rate to show that they are improving, nothing is real. With the way the economy is going and rupiah sliding further amidst faltering economy hyper inflation will definitely set in so any dick, tom and ABRI GD Man like you will tend to know.
You must be enjoying evading and eluding the Q & A who only know about your daughter and wife going to vacation to Mensa “Bragg’n’-wails- eat salmon sushi- you might just yet sprout another brain cell”.
So you might and your AAB [ = All About Boasting ] can go on commenting to see what you guys are posting is that all about cursing and swearing!
[ GOU GAI BU LIAO CHI SI ]
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November 16th, 2008 at 6:00 pmAndy,
true
money makes the world go round and Governments do and are cornered into doing less than desirable nasty things for money.
Howard was stupid- indeed Timor independence can be convincingly argued- but the handling of the matter was dreadful.
Always a diplomatic solution is best.Dragonwall,
you’re an idiot.
I don’t think eating all of Norways’ salmon will ever reverse that MSG damage.
And you are still fei ren self-admitted dishwasher- so how can you have any authority on economics aside from price of gloves, scrubber and soap?For the last time- stop eating the soap- it still will not clean out your dirty mouth.
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November 17th, 2008 at 1:53 amSo GD Man like you are just about cursing and swearing by saying others with dirty mouth.
If you can’t stand the heat, then don’t go around boasting about your knowledge! So I think it’s about high time for you to f*ck off ass hole.
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November 17th, 2008 at 3:19 amDrag-no-balls,
you’re an idiot.
Engineer is front line all armies across the world since the Roman times, no exception including Singapore Army Ladyboys and National Service rent-boy.Your crap Chinglish has you stumped again- you are thinking of “mechanic” engineer- the trade technical specialist one who work in Maintenance, Supply and Logistics fixing mechanical problem- your Singapore Lady Army called it rank: Specialist
You are so stupid.
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Aluang Anak Bayang Says:
November 17th, 2008 at 7:13 pm@ dragonball
This is “Timor Leste Relations” section. If you have no input, best to zip up.
November 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I haven’t had much praise for just about anyone, but this is the best thing a Native English commentator had gave to Indonesians.You should retort with best responses of your own and not bask in glory of PN’s nemesis.
not forgetting to include people like AAB
Chi lay huan na a kong tiong boon, chin nia giar lunk ar.
I salute you being able to see and view the political situation in general as a whole.
You should be saluting, kowtowing and saying sorry to all Indon Chinese for your pathetic responses against PN.
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November 18th, 2008 at 3:29 amRight you’re an idiot.
Engineer is the front line all armies across the world since the Roman times but not to what I think of you. You are only a GD Man also known as ABRI mama boy.
SAF has never once called their logistic as specialist. Only smart ass like you want to think it that way to work in reciprocity to favor you, No. Only dumb Krebo like you thinks that way.
You are so stupid to think that only ABRI knows how to build tank trap, fortification, bridge if not at head of column. Morons like you want to classify yourself to be like in the Engineer. No you don’t you are still a GD Man.
You should retort with best responses of your own and not bask in glory of PN’s nemesis?
Or rather than his past glories?
Chi lay huan na a kong tiong boon, chin nia giar lunk ar.
Speaking Hokian or Tiong Boon..dumb krebo ass.
You should be saluting, kowtowing and saying sorry to all Indon Chinese for your pathetic responses against PN. Meaning that you have shown your jealousy to the Chinese and sympathy you so express for this ancient negriti jester.
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August 16th, 2009 at 4:55 amIf anyone wants to know what went on during this tumultuous time in history watch this movie. It debukes the Purba Negoro (and nationalist Indonesian) version of events.
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