Syech Puji, Pujiono Cahyo & Underage Lust

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  1. avatar Czeslaw says:
    March 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 am

    Mr Tic Tac Toe
    I have to give you credit of confidence for your point of view.
    Definitely, I do a lot of business in Germany and Austria. Definitively both countries are very safe and friendly people. I lived in East Berlin for a while as well those years.
    Today there is no difference where you are in the Europe.

    Also I need to make something clear, I don’t intend to insult anyone. IM is a open public blog, and all are invited to share their point of view rather their opinion is right or wrong.

    You are the 3rd Indonesian person on par in the discussion, and the other fellow is from Australia.

    Good to hear your point of view, and as I said, I am giving you a credit of confidence in what you pointed out to me.

    But I wonder why these wacoes suryo, oigal and Lairedion went on attacking me.

    I have some Farsi friends, and with some of them I do good size business. They are telling me that Persia never was and never will be Islamic state. They are occupied my Muslims against their will. They told me that homosexuality in the religious order is very high, and that the imams and ayatollahs are the first ones to count. I will not go into the detail what I am hearing from Farsi people, but you can just imagine. Pointing sex scandals in the Catholic church by these three wacoes is out of the scope of this blog that is why I brought the homosexuality in the Muslim word to balance the negativity of both religions. Neither is right nor correct behavior.

    Again, glad to hear your point of view. Thanks.

  2. avatar Suryo Perkoso says:
    March 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Czeslaw Says:

    March 22nd, 2009 at 2:26 am
    Hary,
    I don’t intend to irritate anyone.
    I am glad to hear that at least on Indonesian parent, you, stated that you will not allow this to happen to you girls, your daughters. We are in accord on this same issue.
    But soryo and oigal are just opposite of what you say.
    It seems that 2 out of 3 Indonesians are as this Syech Puji is.

    And please don’t worry, we don’t have plans to visit Indonesia. I would rather take kids to see again Japan, Cambodia or India. Much safer, much friendlier places.

    I wish you the best in taking care of your daughters, and I mean it in my heart.

    Let’s do this line by line.

    I don’t intend to irritate anyone.
    Unfortunately you are, by your completely blinkered view of a place you have never seen. You are behaving like a child faced with a new food “don’t like it, never tried it”. I’ve got to be honest with you and say that I have found for whatever reason Polish tend to take a superior attitude towards other nations.

    am glad to hear that at least on Indonesian parent……
    Only a very tiny percentage of Indonesian parents don’t take proper care of their kids, and only a tiny proportion of those would consider any sort of sexual abuse. Child abuse is a disease of the west my friend. Again, you don’t know, do you? “don’t like it, never tried it”

    It seems that 2 out of 3 Indonesians are as this Syech Puji is.
    Now that is childish, and moreover shows a complete lack of education and knowledge of world affairs, either that you you are trolling for a response.

    I have some Farsi friends, and with some of them I do good size business. They are telling me that Persia never was and never will be Islamic state. They are occupied my Muslims against their will. They told me that homosexuality in the religious order is very high, and that the imams and ayatollahs are the first ones to count. I will not go into the detail what I am hearing from Farsi people, but you can just imagine. Pointing sex scandals in the Catholic church by these three wacoes is out of the scope of this blog that is why I brought the homosexuality in the Muslim word to balance the negativity of both religions. Neither is right nor correct behavior.

    Indonesia is not Iran, I add that point because you may not have visited either place.
    Pointing sex scandals at the catholic church? ah, a good catholic boy, is that what this is about? a hate of Islam or the hate of some old twit who we all abhor? I suggest that it is the former. Purrrlease do not attempt to defend that catholic church when there are churches who actually have insurance in place to cover for law suits against them because their Priests have been “getting to the bottom of a few paiges”.

    And please don’t worry, we don’t have plans to visit Indonesia. I would rather take kids to see again Japan, Cambodia or India. Much safer, much friendlier places.

    Thank the Lord for small mercies, let me warn you though that you may get a shock when you see the sex industry in japan, more littles girls involved than you might believe, and also let me warn you that should you visit Cambodia and take the attitude with the local people as you have done here, then you will end up with your head under the pillow, neither Thais or Cambodians will accept anyone commenting as you do – Indonesians are altogether more tolerant.
    I do hope that you enjoy your time in India, you deserve it.

    Since you have made it quite clear that you hate islam and Indonesia, I can’t really see much point in you sticking about.

  3. avatar Oigal says:
    March 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Indonesian now..oh well thats not so bad you know.. I was Malayu last week..mmm..

    Of course based on

    We are in accord on this same issue.
    But soryo and oigal are just opposite of what you say.

    I reserve the right to adopt the machete swinging crazed brown man our ignorant Polack peasant so fears..

    Assmad must be moritfied after all his efforts and I have just skipped straight in.

  4. avatar Suryo Perkoso says:
    March 24th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    I have a super range of machetes available for short or long term hire. Please advise delivery address.

  5. avatar bayi says:
    April 20th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    People like Pujiono Cahyo Widayanto/Widianto, aka Syech/Syekh Puji give Islam a really bad name.

  6. avatar ramli says:
    April 25th, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Go to hell about ‘country Law’ . Islamic Law said OK and this is Sunah. I really support Sheikh!!
    All men out there!…follow what he has done..

  7. avatar ET says:
    April 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am

    ramli

    Go to hell about ‘country Law’ . Islamic Law said OK and this is Sunah. I really support Sheikh!!

    Are you Javanese? According to some posters here it is impossible for Javanese to commit or support pedophilia.

    Another one who’ll end up with a broken jaw. Where’s my knuckeduster?

  8. avatar Czeslaw says:
    April 26th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Dear Ramli,
    I assume that you’re a men, and a Muslim.
    Would you be kind and point me to any verse in Koran that allows sex with children?
    Would you mind to point me to any verse in Koran that allows rape?

    What is a rape?

    Under normal circumstances, if a woman don’t wish to enter into the sex with a men, and if the man still made the sexual act against her wish that constitutes a rape under any circumstances.

    Ramli, if someone points a knife to your throat and demands money and you don’t want to give that criminal your money, that is considered an act of crime committed by the person who puts a knife to your throat.

    But if you Ramli, would put a knife to a woman’s throat and demand a sex from her because she is just a girl or woman, a lesser value than a dead donkey in eyes of Muslims, and this is a normal peaceful act?

    Would you let your 7-12 years old daughter or sister (providing you love her and care a lot for her) to marry any one and being raped? Would you? Really? Think for a moment, Ramli.

    This is how we outsiders of Islam are reading and viewing the Islam, by acts and words of people like you.

    We disagree on many issues, but I wish you a peace of your heart and mind next time you would think.

    Cheers…

  9. avatar Observato says:
    April 26th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Comentator such as Ramli is never a good source on learning Islam. Even none knows if he is muslim or merely a traditional Indonesia provocateur. Anyone who want to learn Islamic teachings should read a book. Here is one example, written by Karen Amstrong:Biography of Muhammad

    Actually Islam has made reforms on how the world view woman status, in the context when it was first introduced, when women of civilizations were on miserable status. Just to set one example is that Islam opposed the practice of life burrying new born girls in pre-Islam Arabia. You may follow this links:

    Source 1
    Source 2

    As about the practice of Islam of today, most of negative stereotypical views about ‘muslims’, contructed by some worst cases in Middle East and some parts of Asia, usually do not apply to Indonesia.

    When Kartini (a national heroine of Indonesian women emancipation) was struggling for women status, she was in objection to women status of javanese society, especially those of the aristocrats. And it was more about having equal rights to get education, roles in society etc, not about ‘treatment’ of woman creatures. At the time, to give a bit confusion to some readers here, at pesantren culture (islamized javanese), traditionally women got far better chance in education.

    I call readers here, to go into more detailed matters about Islamic society, as for Indonesia, you can rely upon works of true Indonesianist, who is living or ever living in Indonesia, such as Franz Magnis Suseno (a german catholic priest),Clifford Geertz etc. Google it yourself. Althought the recent situation is a bit different, their works are still very relevant. The Culture itself is a huge factor before you take account the recent situation here, under influences what so called globalization. A society is only can be studied by getting live inside the society. ‘Popular opinions’, since they are heavily influenced by imbalanced media, simply can be very misleading, and should not taken for granted. Ofcourse, unless you have a sort of ‘faith’ (an unchangeable belief about realities) and being in attempt to evangelize the world.

  10. avatar Czeslaw says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 8:10 am

    Observato,
    thanks for your participation into this difficult situation.
    I don’t believe that forced evangelization or islamization to the world is the answer to anything of religious values or human value. Actually it may prove counter productive.

    The natural balance on this blue dot is, that we are all one man kind in all different parts of this small place, we call earth. With each different part of the world we bring a different cultural, religious, ethnic etc., values to this world. It creates a beauty, balance and vigor to our lives.

    I can’t imagine all people belonging to one religion or one political party.

    Why?

    It will create a Nazi and or Communist version of religious affairs. The line between communism and Naziism could become so thin, that it my be invisible, and it would create the communist-nazzi hybrid of the religious matters/state.

    Just imagine the world if Christians would say, “we all humans have to be Christians, all others need to be converted or be slain…” Or in the world “Christian” put Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, Manitou, Hinduism, etc.. Even I am Catholic, I don’t see any logic or need for converting all humanity into Catholicism/Christianity. The reason may be that we humans may acknowledge that there is a “Supreme Intelligence” which we can’t see nor understand.

    In different parts of the worlds due to different languages we call this “Supreme Intelligence” in the regions’ native tongue(s) a different Names. Perhaps, we maybe referring to this same diaty, and in some cases we may not.

    But under no circumstances that should be a reason to kill other person because she, he or it…..(and here put any reason you can imagine)….

    I wish that the day people will stop killing other people over political and religious reasons will come today. But I know, I am just a dreamer.

  11. avatar DISSIDENT-THOUGHT says:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 3:04 am

    Why so many hatefull comments towards this man, his wife and
    there marriage? It is not for you to judge.

    Perhaps you have been overly influenced, by an overdeveloped society,
    which condones and encourages a CERTAIN type of hatred, which is in fact, a malignancy.

  12. avatar Oigal says:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Why so many hatefull comments towards this man, his wife and
    there marriage?

    His “wife” is a child who should be playing with dolls not catering to a filthy old man and his perverted desires.

  13. avatar madrotter says:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    straight up oigal!

  14. avatar Burung Koel says:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Why so many hatefull comments towards this man, his wife and
    there marriage? It is not for you to judge.

    Funny, though, that his supporters seem to be those who are very quick to judge everyone else.

    Perhaps you have been overly influenced, by an overdeveloped society,
    which condones and encourages a CERTAIN type of hatred, which is in fact, a malignancy.

    Dog whistling now, are we? Obviously it must be the Jews that made Syech Puji into a child molester.

  15. avatar Ross says:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Oigal, you said it so right!
    What kind of gnat-brained anak setan can condone Shek Puji!
    Mind you the Grand Mufti in Saudi says it’s fine to ‘marry’ kids, so who are we to dispute a benighted desert rat?

  16. avatar Ross says:
    February 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Mind you, I don’t like to read those racist attacks on Poles. I’ve been there and they were nice to me and mine. equally the exiled Poles in both countries where I spent my younger days struck me as decent hard-working people, amazingly lacking in bitterness despite the betrayal of their nation by the West in 1945.

    I haven’t read all of the more recent posts on this topic, but I would not say to Czeslaw that he should just ‘not stick about’ if he doesn’t like it here. Lots of foreigners arrive and hit a culture-shock barrier but after a while they find this country grows on you.

  17. avatar DISSIDENT-THOUGHT says:
    February 18th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    “Dog whistling now, are we? Obviously it must be the Jews that made Syech Puji into a child molester.”

    No mention of Jews or Jewishness. Did I say anything about Jews.
    What I’m talking is a mob-mentality that runs through these comments, and a lot
    of other commentary throughout the internet. It reminds me of a pack of hyenas.

  18. avatar Oigal says:
    February 18th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Well if the mob mentality in this case considers abuse of child in a sham marriage to a filthy old pervert repugnant and indefensible then I am pretty happy to be part of that mob. Perhaps there is a place for mob justice after all.

    As for a pack of Hyenas…I could not think of a better and more just solution to the issue, could you arrange tickets?

  19. avatar Ari says:
    August 1st, 2010 at 12:14 am

    I have a question for some, how is this mentality at work? My niece just went into an early puberty at 6 yrs old. She just turned 6 and I was barely 9 when I first menstrated. This from a child who has only been capable of tying her own shoes for a week and who was potty trained just three years ago. You’re telling me a baby girl who can’t even color inside the lines in a coloring book and has just learned how to write her own name is going to be raped and called wife just because she started her cycles early in this guys mind? Where the heck do these teachings come from?!

  20. avatar umar junaedy says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    aslm. de lutfi yang sabar aja ,ini adalah ujian bagi kmu ,hidup adalah perjuangan . tuntut ilmulah sampai tujuan mu tercapai ,insya alloh, kmu bsa mencari jati diri mu yang sbenar nya ,ke dpan wanita adalah tiang negara ,apabila wanita itu baik maka menjadikan generasi kedepan menjadi yang lebih baik .hari ini harus lbih baik dari hari kmaren itu ,orang yang beruntung sebalik nya hari ini lbih buruk dari hari kmaren ,itu orang yang merugi ,wasalam. wr.wb.[ satria piningit ]

  21. avatar Czeslaw says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Ari, these teachings are from their Koran.
    Too many of muslim didn’t even read it, perhaps due to the illiteracy issues.

    Likewise in the Pakistan, Taliban promises to poor peasant parents with several children, that they (Taliban) will take care of their children boys, feed ad dress them etc.
    Then they (Taliban) takes these boys several hundred kilometers away, put these innocent boys in Taliban madras’s and teach the Koran in Arabic, which these peasants boys can’t speak, write or read. Taliban makes all possible to make their lives miserable in this world preparing them for the suicide missions. Boys are forbiden from reading papers, listen to the radio, and basically are cut off from the rest of the world.

    On the other hand, Afghan warlords the most conservative muslism and propagators of the sharia law, which forbids the sexual perversions as well as it is forbidden in the Koran, these warlords are using similar under age boys, this time the Afghani young boys the victims of islam, and these warlords are using these under age boys for their sexual perversion. If the Afghani boy try to leave or try to escape these escapees are shot.

    By many scholars, Mohammed was just a mobster, a gangster. He “married” to a 9 years old girl. I just read that in the Muslim countries the Muslim man are taking as young as 3 years old girls as their brides. Imagine how else to describe biggest sexual pervasion!

    Perhaps it will help you if you read “Son of Hamaz” book by Yousuf’s (I forgot his first name) son of the leader of Hamas. Or, “Why we want to kill you”, or other books by Walid Shoebat. Both excellent books which will help you understand the roots of these demonic Islamic system. I believe that you can’t get these books in Indonesia or other islam controlled countries. But you can visit http://www.shoebat.com

    But when you were born into the islam, or married into the islam, if you will try to leave this demonic system the muslins will treat you as a traitor and as is written in the Koran, that you will be persecuted for treason, thus as a traitor you will be slain.

    Indonesia is doomed. I don’t see any hopes for the Indonesia, or any other country infected with this Islamic demonic system.

    Visit http://www.shoebat.com to get some help in understanding of the issues.

    Peace be with you

  22. avatar Reville says:
    August 7th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Someone should just kill this guy and be done with it

    if i saw him in street i will run him over in my car

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