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1. Achmad Sudarsono Says:
   September 18th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

   Yes, thank you, Mr. Purbo Negoros !

2. Purba Negoro Says:
   September 18th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

   Thanks- I have submitted it in entirety to IM- hopefully the ever cunning Patung will publish it.

   Should I do a Kawi version in aksara Jawa for the fellow Javanese snobs out there??

   Or shall we continue sneering contentedly as we are?

3. BabyColor Says:
   September 19th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

   What the heck, o hwell, yeah guess so, way to go my goverment, don’t hold on and just go on, and then see our country destruction cuz of that stupidly
   Coruption, Rise of Price, and now this, what will happen to our country?

   well, this is just my teory, not sure if it right or not:

   RUU pornografi > No Porn and Hentai allowed > Most of the people who usually mastrubating use porn cannot mastrubating > So Horny > So bored, just hang out w friend in some unknow place > C a girl passing > ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!! > Rape > Gangbang > blablabla > Rape criminal goes up > Those raper will spend their days on jail & the girl got raped, got their honor taken away by unknow guy And those are the vitim of this RUU pornografi, poor fella….

4. Antipornographiegesetz « Indonesisch-Blog Says:
   September 21st, 2008 at 8:26 pm

   [...] zwei aktuelle Beiträge mit dem Thema. Der Originaltext des Gesetzesentwurfs wird hier in einem Eintrag von Patung diskutiert, während Purba Negoro eine vollständige (natürlich rechtlich nicht bindende) [...]

5. Ary Says:
   September 22nd, 2008 at 6:07 am

   I agree with Andy, Kiwibali & PN

   I am just wondering what will happen my love country in the next century when the bill is passed by the Parliament ?
   I imagine the people will behave it like a robot????
   My point of view, they will not have a freedom to express their own art, particular, in custom, beliefs, and tradition. While, all of these it make me proud in a multicultural nation society. We have a vast archipelago famous for the diversity of its population,
   that pluralism had been a fact of life in Indonesia for some time.
   Where is a democracy??? in how democracy????? should the personal conduct be regulated by the state?? Should the state involve more deeply to regulate the right of citizen in away freedom of expression???
   In this case, I agree that the Constitution 1945 and Pancasila are needed as a significant fundamental to compromise in a multicultural diversity society.

   Let’s see, the authority, in Tangerang, applied Sharia Law. When women stand in the street wait public transportation, because she went late from her job. In short, eventually the authorities put her in jail four days.????????????

   My view, the government more focus to deal how to encourage in education, economy stabilization, poverty, particular, in corruption, rather than concern in citizens personal conduct rights, it is wasting time and state budget. The education is very important to improve how the citizen would be able to balance in the flow of transformation and information. It is our nation investment for long term.

   Please optimal in areas :
   a. KUHP
   b. UU Pokok Pers
   c. UU Perfilman Nasional
   d. UU Penyiaran
   e. UU Kekerasan dalam Rumah Tangga
   f. UU Perlindungan Anak

   Should we adopt the peerless wisdom of Nasution’s Dwifungsi parliamentary military bloc ‘anymore’ ??????

6. indobraveheart Says:
   September 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm

   I think there are 2 possibilities:

   1. this bill is once again “revived” to veil Indonesia’s poor condition – just like Enigmatic said before

   2. this ridiculous bill is designed and rolled by Islamic puritans to get a significant feedback – whether they could get the public on their side or not … consider it as another way to disguise and inject the sharia system to Indonesian law. I think we’ve got to give them a “clear” feedback and send them back – well, at least to their desks once again …

7. rara Says:
   September 28th, 2008 at 7:01 am

   Since the independence day, 17 August, 1945, we have a fundemental principle, Pancasila and Bhineka Tunggal Ika (unity in diversity).

   So, Mukadimah and Piagam Jakarta are not our fundamental principle in Indonesia.

   Do not change our principle as a guide in multicultural society to the others principles.

8. Dita Says:
   October 31st, 2008 at 2:03 am

   I guess, it will be a better law, if it only focus on preventing children from being ‘exploited’ for sexual means. I think this law is slightly better than the first draft, because it is more specific in a sense. It is more directed to protecting people from pornography than preventing people from doing porno-aksi. However, some part of the UU do need some subjective interpretations(which is bad), like what’s the guidelines of deciding that some art activity is directed for cultural means. Power might play a role in here, that is an artist or organization can bribe police, so their arts can be consider as part of the culture.
   Beside, will censoring itself be that easy? Schools and other educational facilities might able to censor their computers, so children could not access porn materials. But how about at home? Will it be censored as well? I know that some adolescents are very sophisticated with technology (more than their parents), so they might able to find a way to ‘crack’ the censor.

9. jhon keiya Says:
   October 9th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

   it’s nice to see you shown the personal comments on this posts,I’d gather more opinions on minds,but not as you images it’s easy to say them one by one,except after already gotten out the approval from other includes you,but it’s free for me to submitting my own ideas,minds,and opinions as own right ,because we known that, everyone have the personal rights that given of god from the moments he was born on doing something freely without the hit of ways in doing such a things aforementioned …………
   here this time I come to posting my own comments by seeing all of yours amplifying my ways of wishing revealed comments in this posts as you’ve done……..
   so,to my mind,opinions,and idea about the pornography laws legalized by governments and soon arranged was for a partial is enable to be scrupulous,because it’s containing any of the important parts of regulations as it was that finally can impressive on us every moments we reads them,and to be specifically understanding them totally………….,but some of them (peoples of Indonesian and governments instances ) was disagree with those above specially to the what things categorized the unlawful laws of those thing above (pornography laws which didn’t have legalizations that containing inappropriate laws managements to the meant constitutions available )
   and for all I think peoples must disagree with the existing spreading out of porn videos,pictures either on internet or through the porn videos (CD and DVD videos collections) available on the peddlers wherever they are ,because on the other hands it’s challenging minds,it will also decreasing our studying concentrations specially for students of Senior High School,I talk like that is because of I’m also the students of a certain senior high school ,that had ever been such things taken places on me since I tried to download to/from internet and watching TV porns by online ,start form that moment I decide to reducing my habits on doing such things over and over,because it’s oppressing me everything I did,that at once I’d remembered it at the midst of my activity,not something only,but each time I did my works that it’s losing to me and ousts the concentrations that I couldn’t at moving my mind’s concentrations in studying or in working easily,nevertheless when I missed them ( the porn videos,CD/DVD, etc )away,I don’t again recollecting them,and it anytime not challenging my minds,studying concentrations,that now starting of wishing commands on others that are being at midst of using,watching,enjoying or having the videos of porn has spreading out ,cause I think that, I’m being at freedom on commands other,because it’s not easy for anyone to do such a things ( to comment others or a things we intended to ) by not observing himself first,that I was also terrifying when i did it by not looking back my self on having own faults, mistakes,includes guilty,cause to comments others is to repairing peoples altitudes or something getting better finally,that it might be done by having a great responsibility first and awareness to perfect them by now wholly or totally ……..etc

   And the ideas of me are as aforementioned above that I’ve talked them one by one,but not so specifically

   I think the agreement of being making ,or have made the rule,laws of pornography may be possible as a reality should to be followed by all peoples regularly in accordance with the decisions either of the prime ministry or governments or other governments meant instances ) who had legalized those things (the pornography laws-but specially for legals law applicable to the situations of those things spreading out freely nowadays which has been generally announced or managed to internet by the meant leaders,etc .
   finally,i guess the chapter and articles wholly or for a partial above arranged that has directly posted was enable that freely to be obeyed by us for its statements and at once as a sign that we are agreed on its availability of existing of pornography laws arranged above on purposes that we are accepting well at once appreciating their law legalizations.

   This might be my terminations of ideas,opinions,minds statements.I sure that I will have more of mistakes within the arrangements. I demanding your critical must be revealed in the ends of you comments for special words faults, miss understanding,for future my own uses on the newest comments posts of me I’m going to do next time ……..
   …………………….
   I’m as a senior High school Student is freely still being open myself on accepting every things from you either good or bad critical will belong to me whenever
   I’m live in Jayapura city at an unknown senior high school which located in PAPUA .I don’t wonder of saying my own school .but finally I’m eager,I’m a student from PGRI senior high school ( now I’m in third grade ,and next year,at the third month will preparing for the national examinations) at Jayapura city – Papua .
   I am delighting to write this, because I like English very much

   THANK YOU !!!

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