Reasons for Divorce

July 16th, 2008, in News & Issues, by Patung

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  1. Purba Negoro Says:
    September 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Farina-
    you must hire a divorce lawyer.
    If you file privately (by yourself) - it will not be as strong as a lawyer petition

    If you were married in an Islam ceremony- the lawyer will petition Religious Court.

    For divorce applciation to be valid:
    “sufficient reasons” must be provem:

    adultery, is an alcoholic, is addicted to drugs, is a gambler or other vices which are difficult to cure;

    left the other spouse for two consecutive years, without consent and without legitimate reasons or the absence of reasons beyond his control;

    has been sentenced to imprisonment for five years or a longer period;

    has resorted to cruelty or severe ill-treatment, endangering the life of the other spouse;

    has developed a disability or disease, preventing from fulfilling the duties of husband or wife; or

    irreconcilable differences.

    Divorce only after the Court has tried unsuccessfully to reconcile the parties.

    divorce by “talak”
    divorce by judgement of the court of law.

    Talak is applicable only to Muslim marriage, court of law overide all religious laws/conventions- meaning an unsuccessful Islam court divorce can be overturned by a court of law.

    Conclusion- get a lawyer.

  2. Rob Says:
    September 6th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    PN…

    You seem surprisingly well informed on the issue of divorce in Indonesia, some experience? :D

    My suggestion would be to get a lawyer. The simple reason is that a reasonably good divorce lawyer will know their way around. This will reduce the stress that you are likely to suffer as you get ping-ponged from one window to the next.

    Muslim marriages go through the religious courts and non-Muslim marriages go through the general courts.

    If you want more info then you could also head to the Department of Religion. Each religion has their own division and the staff at the DOR are usually much more helpful than those at the courts.

  3. Farina Says:
    September 7th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    thank you guys for the advice….. But I’m not a muslim… where can I find more info .. I have told him nicely that we can’t be together anymore but he say he will never sign the divorce .. He commit adultery why Should I do. Report to police Or any good idea???

  4. Rob Says:
    September 7th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Farina…

    I would stick to my earlier suggestion. If you do not want to immediately hire a lawyer to do teh hard yards on your behalf, then my suggestion is a trip to the nearest branch of the Dept. of Religion.

    As I said, they are generally pretty helpful in telling you what has to be done. They are also a whole lot more professional than the Civil Registry. Ultimately, you will need to get the Decree Nisi signed off on by the general courts (at least that is my current understanding of the process).

    good luck.

  5. Farina Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    hi guys … I have check with the them but she say my husband must bring Marriage cert then we can process . He push me to the ground when I ask him about divorce and I report to police . .

  6. Geordie Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    He push me to the ground when I ask him about divorce

    Got any brothers, cousins, uncles? The man (loosest possible interpretation) sounds like a coward and confronted by a couple of handy lads he might just comply with your request rather than ante up and have a go.

  7. Purba Negoro Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    No-
    good knowledge of the law is the responsibility of a good citizen in any nation- would you not agree Mr Rob?

    I believe ignorance is a very poor defense in Western courts as well.

  8. Rob Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am

    Farina…

    Geordie’s advice aside (although it might be a means of evening the score a little bit). If you reported it to the police, then make sure you get a copy of the report and make sure it is signed by the police officer who took your statement.

    The Dept of Religion can provide you with information on how to proceed without a marriage certificate. Do not accept that you can only proceed with the certificate. This is why it is important to have a copy of the police report.

    I would also consider getting some legal assistance. There are a number of organizations that have been set up to help women in your situation. One is LBH-APIK.

  9. Rob Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    PN…

    Generally speaking, ignorance is no excuse at all!

  10. Purba Negoro Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 1:21 am

    I fount that out when annoying Aussie policemen fine me for speeding.
    Very annoying.
    Luckily my friend told me not to offer bribes-

  11. Tom Simunovic Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 am

    From Canada: PUSH & PULL DIVORCE REASONS IN OUR FEMINIST DICTATORSHIP
    All divorces here are started by women, except if the man is kicked out on the street and has to go to court to beg to see his kids or get back his belongings.
    (A wife can push out her husband out in a few minutes, just by calling police and saying she is afraid. They arrest the husband; the house and kids stay with wife.)
    A woman disappointed with the marriage, and all are more or less, is pulled by:
    1) the profit motive - she gets his property and monthly money and state assistance
    2) the opportunity to punish that abusive, selfish husband and his family
    3) to raise the kids without his interference, or his dumb family
    4) freedom to come and go as she please, boyfriends etc, without anyone watching
    5) belief she can find a better man than that jerk, because her tastes got more refined (after turning thousands of pages of women’s press and thousands of hours of TV)
    Only a crazy man would initiate divorce. Because no man wants to loose kids, house and to become a bonded labourer. Or go to jail (she can put him in jail easily, his word means nothng in court.) Feminist courts have bastardized half of kids in my city. And ruined lives of million men and unleashed state instigated female barbarism and abuse of men and children and women who support men (grandmothers, sisters etc). Tom

  12. Nasir Says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    The reasons are logical as stated by Mr. Umar. The comments coming from different people suggest how many mental problems exist throughout the world. There are different opinions.
    Children and family interference is one big reason. But what about adultery ?
    And it is being done by women ? Well men are equally doing adultery because women have found the ways to offices.
    Women should not expose their figures if they think they are penelopes or sacred creatures.

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