Malaysia – RI Relations

Jun 20th, 2008, in IM Posts, Opinion, by Guest Writer

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16 Comments on “Malaysia – RI Relations”

sputjam Says:
June 20th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
malaysian have enough problems with indonesian within their borders to worry about. They are relieved that the majority of indonesians are still in indonesia.
mirax Says:
June 21st, 2008 at 3:11 am
That’s true, Sputjam. I have a lots of friends in KL and pop up there quite frequently; there is always talk of indonesian illegals – responsible for all crime, you know- and a distinct distrust of the indonesian domestic helpers compared to filipino ones. Filipinas are left unsupervised at home but not indonesian maids – apparently, the employers are afraid of her absconding with their precious darlings.
tomaculum Says:
July 6th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Indonesia steps further and further towards a marginal position politically as well as economical.
It seems only one thing is important in Indonesia: religion.
Not even in football (soccer) Indonesia can even really play a role in Asia, not to mention in the world .
Indonesian with their dreams of better earning money surge to Malaysia, Saudi Arabia etc, etc. Many of them were and are abused and humiliated, and the Indonesian gov.
doesn’t really have any interest to help or protect them. Many of the Indonesian representatives in other countries just bother of themselves.

So, why pay attention to such a country????
Mogolele Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Well
at least you go to Bali there, it’s such a beautiful place !
Budi Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Tension between Malaysia and Indonesia always rise during special occassion such as the rise of petrol price, rise of tax, and presidential election. The fake tensions are created by both Indonesian and Malaysian government to prevent their government power get kicked off by its people. One of the good example is the case of Ambalat strait and the whipping of Indonesian immigrants. The real problem lies on the rise of petrol in both countries. Since the situation is critical enough as President SBY and Malaysian PM can get their butt kicked by the demonstrants, they simply make up fake situation and drive the attention of the people long enough to forget about the main issue, which is rising of petrol and food price.

The war is fake, there will be never war as long as they are still a lot of money and resources to be corrupted by government official. However, it is the people that become victim of this fake war. Innocent people get whipped, stabbed, or probably even murder by other hot head youngster who easily get their blood boiled when it comes to patriotism. Patriotism itself is a tool to cheat the young people into sacrificing theirselves in favor of politicians. Well, so try to be smart, protecting ourselves is the smartest move ever.
Astrajingga Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
If there’s no (poor people of) Indonesia, where can Malaysia got their cheap builders, cheap plantation labors, cheap pembantu/maids, cheap workers?

Whose forest will be illegally cut and then exported to China labeled as “From Malaysian Sustainable Forest”? Where would Malaysian forestry be without Indonesia? And they complain us for the smoke of forest fire?

Which CD with Indonesian/Malay lyric will they pirate? VCD of Indonesian movie? I wonder if there’s artist in Malaysia, I’ve never heard anything about ‘Malaysian Art.’ (Yes, once we pirated that silly Rock Band; Search’s songs. Only one song Isabela, and it’s rubbish. We consider it as an ‘illegal’ imported polution to our grand culture/kebudayaan adi luhung).

Now their politician and policemen also need Indonesians as a scapegoat of the increasing crime rate. They need Indonesia to cover their incompetence.

We lost our Sipadan & Ligitan islands. We are ikhlas. And now they try to get more, Ambalat, because of oil business. Who will be Malaysian Navy sparring partner in this borderline hit and run game?

For better or worse, Malaysia needs–badly–Indonesia.

Once, we let Rashid family took the prestigious badminton championship from Indonesia. It’s okay to lose to British, Dane, Korean, or China, but it really hurt to lose it to Malaysia. But let’s forget about it. It’s only a sport.

We even let Malaysia to have Batik–theirs is low quality, keris–theirs is low quality, and reog–played by Indonesian–without acknowledging them as ‘made in Indonesia.’ It’s okay for us. We still have our own great high quality batik, keris, and reog. Those who really want to find ‘fine quality’ instead of ‘cheap imitation’ will know where to go.

Apart from minuscule crime cases done by Indonesian, Indonesia is the best, the most generous neighbor Malaysia ever has. We’re just too damn nice.

But when it comes to Manohara Odelia Pinot….
Odinius Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Astrajingga said:

Whose forest will be illegally cut and then exported to China labeled as “From Malaysian Sustainable Forest”?

This is true. The main exploiters of Indonesia’s primary rainforests are now Malaysian and Chinese conglomerates, with willing partners in the Indonesian government (as well as local cronies).
Astrajingga Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 am
with willing partners in the Indonesian government (as well as local cronies).

Sure. That’s where ‘the best neighbor’ takes part. We also have the best Pak RT to smooth all the deal. Aren’t we nice?
Odinius Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 am
That’s the way of the world. Things like “indigenous rights” often really mean, in practical terms, “making sure specific individuals get a cut.”

Not saying that all indigenous rights campaigning is bull****, just pointing out that it’s often used by certain members of the local elite until they get their ca$h payout. Then it’s “go-go-government!”
Oigal Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 am
The main exploiters of Indonesia’s primary rainforests are now Malaysian and Chinese conglomerates, with willing partners in the Indonesian government (as well as local cronies).

Statements like this always make me laugh..Along with “That naughty mean little Singapore is stealing our sand..”

Ho Ho Ho.. Who lets them do it!!? You don’t have to look to neighbouring countries to see where the real problem lies but guess it makes people feel better for a little while, to blame someone elese fro our woes.

The “local cronies” should be in bold and 36 size font.
Odinius Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 am
Er…Oigal…you did read the second half of that sentence, didn’t you?

…with willing partners in the Indonesian government (as well as local cronies).
Oigal Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 am
Sorry Od, I agree with what you said (Maaf.. If the reply didn;t sound that way) just think the local cronies thing should be in bold…
Odinius Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Yeah, hard to absolve the willing partners. I was just pointing out that it’s not “exploitation by western capital” as much as “exploitation by eastern capital” nowadays.

That doesn’t change the basic fact that the only party that could put a stop to it would be the Indonesian government.
Astrajingga Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
That doesn’t change the basic fact that the only party that could put a stop to it would be the Indonesian government.

Hoping Indonesian government to act as fierceful and persistent like Manohara’s mother?
cyclone Says:
February 28th, 2010 at 8:23 am
astrajingga,

what a way to shift all the blames to malaysians…look properly into your own house..big but lots of bullshits inside it. don’t try to compare what u think as a better arts, kris or reog to other people’s products. Why do you indonesian people still come to malaysia?? who needs who now?? you are now about 2 million people here. and i guess you shouldn’t blame your gov for that too. who elect them. don’t you and your wicked-and-blame-somebody ever vote?? look into your own shits and just imagine again what you have eatened.
Astrajingga Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 5:04 am
Ck ck ck Cyclone, you just don’t know your shit!