Chinese & Asian Stereotype

Jun 6th, 2008, in IM Posts, Opinion, by Guest Writer

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dewaratugedeanom Says:
June 18th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Aluang said

Alhumdulillah, horny girl.

Lotsa ‘wildcatting’ going on in the Sumatran jungle on those oil and gas rigs if you ask me.
Farah Says:
June 19th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
@ Dewa
Miaww !! (purring and licking my sharp claws…).
nobbb Says:
June 20th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Try to know more about people around you, and try to understand why they become like that, read the historical documents will make you less stereotyping others.
We just lack of ‘interest’ to others.
We are not perfect, our bad side can be fulfill by others (if I allow to say) ethnic.
We are just like a piece of part of puzzle. to complete the picture, need others piece.

I am Indonesian, half Chinese half pribumi, my husband is French, and we were studying in Japan and some European countries.
archie Says:
June 27th, 2008 at 9:25 am
It’s true tough that racial stereotypes exists explicitly in Indonesia.

Being a ‘pribumi’ Indonesian, I was raised into believing that all racial stereotypes of Indonesian Chinese were true. I never encountered or had any Indonesian Chinese friends during my childhood. The moment I left the country and studied abroad, I realized that the stereotypes that were integrated into my mindset are all false.

Most of The Indonesian Chinese that I’ve met through out my student life has taught me more life lessons than any Pribumi Indonesians I’ve met. I’m not saying that I look down upon Pribumi Indonesians. But c’mon, I think its time that racial stereotypes and generalization to be removed in our country.

One thing that I realized about most Indonesians in general: They are ‘narrow-minded’. It’s very obvious. Pride, Arrogance, “lazyness” and Ignorance are the main ingredients in it. On the other hand, our nation consists really-really smart people (I mean cmon, we calculate crazy maths equation without calculator). But then again, the bad behavior contradicts or restrain their true capabilities. I do hope a change can be made in future in removing all these bad aspects of many Indonesians.

Then again, one thing I love with Indonesian value is its family value. Undoubtedly its one of the best in the world, and finally, when it comes to giving help or support, Indonesians mean it from their heart.

Well, shall we do something and pray for the change? I think we should lol ;p
uwie Says:
July 5th, 2008 at 11:19 am
@constant changes

Kasihan kamu. I never thought that it would happen to someone that definitely college in Universtas Indonesia. I have many Chinese friends actually until now. But about the stereotype that you said, I just know one guy, and he is being hate by everyone.

First time, when i met my chinese friends, when i talked about chinese issue or call them chinese. they will be cold and not talking to me again. hehehehe. I am not a sensitive person, but I am saying that just because it is like calling sundanese as sundanese, java as java, batak as batak, chinese as chinese, am i right?

what am i talking about?

But i hope, that this kind of action is not happen to you again. SMangat!!!
rayner Says:
July 14th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
I would like some information please. I have visited Bali several times and stayed for several months at a time. I don’t even pretend to “know” the culture. I hear lots of sayings, things about the Chinese in Bali. I have read the accounts of the massacres, seen the mass graves.

I am an anthropologist from Britain. I go to various countries to explore and discover as much as possible the various nurturing practices and social conditions to see which produce a violent as opposed to a peaceful people. As you all probably know, Britain is a covert culture hiding a very violent and frustrating attitude with a veneer of politeness and learned courtesy. When our government goes to war or economics begin to become desperate the underbelly starts to show and extreme violence results.

From what I know about the Chinese upbringing, their rearing process results in a desire for wealth and power without much concern for any one else except close family and friends. This is largely due to their survival skills have been honed by years of deprivation. They do not smile much.

The Polynesian culture is largely one of sharing and caring. All food and other things such as shelter and the good things of life are equally shared. This is mainly due to their climate. Adequate rainfall, tropical weather result in four harvests a year with ample food for everyone. It has been a tradition for Polynesians and part of their cultural upbringing not to hoard surplus except for everyone’s survival and to share and care.

They place little store with academic learning and rely on feats of memory to help them remember their chants. They have a basic premise which is, fours hours of work a day, planting and reaping taro, and other vegetables, gathering fruit growing freely and fishing their once bounteous seas. Fours hours playing on their beloved mudslides, surfing and four hours being intimate and enjoying sex. In Britain the experts reckon that we spend just 2.4 hours a week having sex! That is when a couple first start becoming intimate. From then on it is downhill all the way.

Now the Hawaiians had the same difficulties with the Asian races, when first the Japanese were brought in by the Americans to work the sugar plantations and then the Chinese and all the other various nationalities to work the plantations, (the Hawaiians refused to work in the plantations,) the main complaint by the Hawaiians was, that the concept of sharing and caring was not practiced by the Asian races. They felt exploited by the Asian fears of survival and shortage of the basic foods.

Now I gather that the Chinese here in Bali are the principal money lenders. They will loan Balinese who own land various sums and when they come to collect their money they are told that ,”We have spent it. We have not bought a business and made profit which is what the Asian would do with borrowed money. We do not believe in lending money, if we have a surplus we share it out among those less fortunate.) So trouble ensues which on the face of it is a misunderstanding on the part of both the Asian moneylender and the Balinese recipient about financing. If that is the case, education would be the answer for everyone concerned to prevent this unfortunate event from occurring, which can led to violence on all sides. Comments please. Am I mistaken?
Rayner
Purba Negoro Says:
September 20th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Rayner,
your comments are accurate but do not justify nor excuse these “Jews of the East” as King Rama of Thailand so eloquently and aptly labelled them.

Chinese are insatiably greedy and avaricious without peer because they choose to be- not out of need.

Chinese were imported en masse to supplant and subvert the local native authority.
In Malaysia, the Britis did the importing.
in Indonesia it was the Dutch and Chinese bossmen bringing thousands upon thoussands of indentured labourers as well as all kinds of opportunistic economically motivated low-lifes best termed “lumenprole”- pimps, charaltans, peddlars, gamblers, smugglers, drug-runners, opium dealers, etc.

The Dutch used the willing Chinese as the “compradores”- middlemen between native aristocracy and Dutch Colonial powers.
Much native land was confiscated by the Dutch, especially from recalcitrant or rebellious Javanese aristocrats and handed to the willing Chinese for cash-crop plantations- including opium and tobacco.
Chinese were also employed in the colonial administrative system- thereby excluding the native from ever becoming smart or literate enough to through off the Colonial yoke.
Chinese were also keen tax-collectors, money lenders and also operated toll-roads and toll-gates.

Realistically, the only solution is expulsion. Then the native can fend for himself or learn to.
They are majority illegal immigrants and should be deported. If they wish to stay- they should reapply for the legal migration they chose not to undertake and hence pay requisite fees and back fees to undergo the due processs they so keenly seek to buy their way out of.

The Chinese overtly refuse to pay their fair and legal taxatinon, perpetuate a corrupt government and bureaucracy and will pay their way out of whatever trouble they find themselves in.

In short- bribery at any cost for lng term goal of profit at any cost.

yet your assumption abut Balinese being Polynesian in activity or culture is not accurate.
Balinese are far more intelligent and capable than they let on- perhaps it’s a case of not “can’t pay back” but “won’t pay back”- deliberate defaulting then using village strongman tactics in order to serve up the Chinese some of his own medicine and just desserts?
Almost a game of mutual extortion.

Revenge indeed is a dish best served cold.
Ripit Says:
October 19th, 2008 at 4:54 am
To rimafauzi

I’m chinese indonesian, muslim, and you looks soooo cute, black top sweater? I would love to have coffee in belgium with you..hehe.
Beb Says:
October 26th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Wow, loved the article. I’m chinese living in a Jakarta. I attend an international high school so I really have no problems fitting in. I plan to go to the United Kingdom or Canada for my university studies. I can howver relate somewhat to this article. I have never attended a public school or an Indonesian speaking school with Indonesian school. English has always been my first language, and almost all my friends are chinese, or foreigners. I have very little pure Indonesian friends. The stereotypes that you mentioned, ‘Chinese are Rich’. That is true, very rare do you see a chinese attend a public school, and very little do you see an Indonesian attend a International school (except if you are batak) Most chinese people in Indonesia get teased and hated by many of the locals because we hold most of Indonesia’s money. They call us ‘cina’ and stuff like that, and as you can see the riot in 1998, there has been somewhat racial tensions. That is probably the reason you lost your friends when you attended an Indonesian university. I personally wouldn’t be able to bear going to a university in Indonesia. Chinese people in Indonesia have a separate lifestyles compared to locals, we are more of the elite society in Indonesia. But this is not true for all. My brother lives in Melbourne, and when I visited I have been treated with racism for being Asian before, but I really don’t mind. I’m proud of being a chinese.
shawty Says:
November 11th, 2008 at 7:08 am
Beb r u sure that u nowdays chiness kids that stay in Indonesia?
i went to univ that most of it chiness, worked in univ lab and taught chiness indo as well and by the time i graduate i worked in company that really mix chiness and local..

And it wasnt long time ago..
even now im no longer in indo, here i have great best friend that indo chiness..
even in univ people asked

why u both looks different..u both came from indo, right?
why she looks like chiness more than indo..

and i said she is indo chiness..

and she never care about that..
she is proud to be Indonesian and yes she is chiness..
face cant lie

and some of my 100% indo friends was from International school in Jakarta…

so i think u must be from some other part of this planet..
not Indonesia..;)
or hmmm u 10 years back kids?
Kline Says:
October 27th, 2010 at 12:24 am
I hate white guys and other guys that dig EAsian girls just for sex, i think they all deserved to die and being burned in hell
Oigal Says:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I hate white guys and other guys that dig EAsian girls just for sex, i think they all deserved to die and being burned in hell

Ah love rational debate..that would be the white guys or the EAsian girls the deserve to die and burn in hell? How come only EAsian girls how come not the the SEAsian or West Asian or brown guys or balck guys…Sheesh talk about selective..
Annaise Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:14 am
It is rather sad to live in a world with stereotypes. Even though I am not Asian myself, I still find it rather offensive when people begin judging Asians by what they see on TV or learn from movies. It is stupid and shows just how ignorrant some people can be. And not just when Asians are judged, but pretty much when any race is judged. I do not see how now in modern times interracial dating should still be a problem. Generation NeXt (which includes myself) are beginning to have more liberal thoughts and ideas. Some still comply to some of the family’s old fashioned ideas, but hopefully one day in the near future it will not matter what race you are or what country you are from.