Rob said:
My point really is that in many ways you adopt the same methods as PN except he uses classic put downs that really do not rely on swearing to work and you cannot keep up. Sad but true!
Well said. Dragonwall understands the skill to get involved in a beef with virtually everybody here. It’s safer to bet on that then to predict the sun will rise tomorrow morning.
Hmmm sad to say but with nothing to do, it’s all about another lickspittle pick and choose. Anymore?
People who, on almost every posting, made put downs and insults are those who envy others or are jealous of, in majority, the Chinese achievements in Indonesia where he does not have a share in it.
I doubted very much about people who made comments but failed to understand finance, economy and trade.. by always finding a scapegoat with their undeveloped brain when strategy and policy are two different matter.
Mind you. HARD WORD BREAKS NO BONE.
Correct dragonwall, it appears on these pages some cannot agree to disagree without resorting to personal putdowns and insults. Some of these have even involved partners and family members. It seems when someone is beaten this is the only avenue they have to go. And all they do is prove our point as to how racist and intolerable they are. They should be thoroughly be ashamed of themselves. Maybe this is why their country has been going down the toilet since independence.
The fact is without the money, support and presence of both chinese and bules, Indonesia would most likely be in the stone age.
Right these is exactly what had happened.
And all they do is prove our point as to how racist and intolerable they are. They should be thoroughly be ashamed of themselves. Maybe this is why their country has been going down the toilet since independence.
They want to say what they like to hear, whatever come next is scondary to them. No consideration.
During the rule of Soeharto, though many had commented after the post Soeharto era, that he is a dictator, a murderer. But at least no one country dare touch Indonesia at that time. There were unrest and civil disputes quelled without spilling into a large scale riot.
Now many have regretted their support for a freer Indonesia, and resented what is hapenning now in Indonesia. EVEN BIGGER CORRUPTION AMIDST KKN big time.
Have you ever heard of things like “Minister passing envelope to members of Parliament in passing a law during the Soeharto era”?
NOTHING.
People are beginning to reminisce the good ole days of Soeharto now and even some hoped to have Indonesia return where they were. IMPOSSIBLE.
You can get people, after Soeharto is gone, Sudharmono or Try Sutrisno to be the President and they will tell you guys to fly a kite. They might even asked you to go support Rizieq and make Indonesia go all Black and White instead of Red and White.
Well, it’s like being between the devil and the deep blue sea. People want to be free, it’s only natural but with freedom comes greater responsibility as people. One is to protest peacefully and accept the other persons point of view. The other is that ALL citizens have rights, not only the majority. The mob rules mentality shows they are not quite ready. But then at this point there really is not turning back.
Right
People want to be free, it’s only natural
Yes
but with freedom comes greater responsibility as people.
So who has that, the Indonesians..the mobs..the ABRI, or the innocent people. Nothing stands in the way of these people instigating the riot, just to make sure they succeed in getting Soeharto. Wiranto was almost the most trusted person, so was Hababie and Prabowo. Is that responsiblities?
One is to protest peacefully and accept the other persons point of view. The other is that ALL citizens have rights, not only the majority.
For months when I watched the demo at HI it was like clockwork.. 8 to 5 and then all suddenly disperse.
I saw a increasing amount of armed personnel by the truckload on a small road near Muwardi in Grogol on the 11 May 1998, never seen before tense and nervous. Those traitors that sent Indonesia a new political road to nowhere, no future.
The mob rules mentality shows they are not quite ready. But then at this point there
really is not turning back.
They are very not ready..and as for turning back. fat dream..can’t even repay all foreign loans..how to turn back!
I remember calling home speaking to my parent & my sisters during the May riots. I was so worried for their safety.
I don’t care whether these unspeakable acts were ‘a manifestation of frustration due to imbalance economic status between Chinese and non-Chinese or what. It definitely is not an excuse to do any form of barbaric acts towards people no matter what their races are.
Chinese or not Chinese, we are all Indonesians, but more important we are all human. The atrocities committed in the May riots are acts of animals. It’s unacceptable & those beasts must be prosecuted.
I couldn’t believe that the government choose to deny it. Shame on them just because it didn’t happen to one of them.
I think after the tragic Indonesian riots and rape.We chinese also been discrimate during the world war 2 by the Japanese and now the muslims.Where is the mighty Allah go when his people is raping and killing the weak.Is this u call Jihad….u r f*cker ashole u know.If u don’t have food juz take it but don’t rape and kill other human coz we r not animal like u think.
I think the chinese should unite and we must JIHAD and kills this animal.I think our brother out there have technology to create a virus that can spread and kill fast.We must equip our self when r attack us we must JIHAD and release the virus and die with this bastard.Let their remeber until their grand children for what we don’t to them……If Allah don’t punished them we willl………….Not only the chinese and i think others minority religious and races will face this situation too one day.Because this bastard is barbarian………………We must unite to fight the darkest time have come that we must stand and fight…..Don’t lets them bully us………We must die for our races….Kills our weak family first and don’t let them rape then we run and hide but we will be back to take revenge like the mongols…………………………..
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