99 Comments on “Fiskal Tax & NPWP”

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1. james Says:
   March 7th, 2009 at 9:24 am

   I asked the same question on 1/16 and the answer I got was that you don’t need NPWP and you shouldn’t have to pay fiskal if you live overseas and have a visa indicative of that.

   So if you have a visa in your passport that shows you are a resident of another country then supposedly you don’t have to pay fiskal.

2. Chris Says:
   March 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

   He’s just another crying baby chinese hating indonesian…if they weren’t here running the business who would? I don’t see any natives stepping up to do it.

3. Suryo Perkoso Says:
   March 14th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

   Purba Negoro Says:

   December 10th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
   Ross
   correct.
   If you claim fiscal tax as a refund- you will be audited by the State to ensure you are not being fraudulent.

   This is standard procedure in any nation.

   I am aware in the UK and Australia they have very serious problems with fraudulent benefits claims and inadequate means testing.

   Ratu Plaza- I wil check it out. I am sending a secretary right now to pick me up a flyer.

   Well, if you had an NPWP you might suffer a routine audit, and if you don’t, then you will hardly claim it back, because you won’t be paying tax in the first place.

   As you rightly say the UK has a big problem with fraudulent benefit claims, but to date, I don’t think Indonesia does.

   Achmad Sudarsono Says:

   December 10th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
   PN,

   If the law does apply equally to all, then great.

   You just seem to single out Indonesian Chinese. I’m willing to bet dollars to dodol the well-heeled and wealthy Pribumi are no better.

   What do you think ?

   Hey Mas – kados pundi? and how is little Sinyo or was it Noni? Sepurane mas, aku wes lali ! Must be getting quite big now.

   I can expect a tofu rocket to come flying over the Tenggerese in the morning for this.

4. Suryo Perkoso Says:
   March 14th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

   james Says:

   March 7th, 2009 at 9:24 am
   I asked the same question on 1/16 and the answer I got was that you don’t need NPWP and you shouldn’t have to pay fiskal if you live overseas and have a visa indicative of that.

   So if you have a visa in your passport that shows you are a resident of another country then supposedly you don’t have to pay fiskal

   Quite, supposedly immigration are taking it easy with SOSBUD holder for the time being, and in the UK, any Indo passports issued are initially valid for only two years, so that the holder has to come back and register, express their continued desire to remain Indonesia, and thus gain their fiscal exemption.

   Chris Says:

   March 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
   He’s just another crying baby chinese hating indonesian…if they weren’t here running the business who would? I don’t see any natives stepping up to do it.

   Quite right, us Javanese and other ethnics couldn’t do it – I mean the people who may invest US$5 billion in sidoarjo must be chinese, well mustn’t they?

   You’d do well to remember old Suryo Perkoso and the rest of us Prijaji…

5. Suryo Perkoso Says:
   March 14th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

   @James – maneh.

   Your wife shouldhave registered at the KBRI when she arrived, and she won’t get a new passport there unless she does – the visa means nothing in law (though forgiving pejabat may help you get your fiscal exemption).

   You’ll find that generally the staff at the fiscal desk are helpful in ensuring that genuine overseas residents don’t get clobbered for fiscal – perhaps it is just a question of attitude?

6. sue Says:
   May 6th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

   Hi,
   I am an indonesian citizen.Just got my NPWP card yesterday.I have to travel to Singapore with my boss tommorrow.I was told that the card will take 2 wks to get active. So do I need to pay Fiscal still till the card gets active or is there any way I can be exempted.Thanks.

   Sue

7. m.wood Says:
   May 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

   great, now i have to keep going down south asking for the embassy to abolish fiskal everytime i fly back home. no thanks to this new reg.

8. Michael Says:
   July 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm

   As a foreigner boule (u.s.a.), i stay here in indonesia with my indonesian wife and our 2 babies – i only leave every 3 or 4 months to get a new social bodaya visa. My question, and i have many friends with the same situation, is this;

   Will I have to pay 2.5mm fiscal tax every time i exit since i do not stay more than 183 CONSECUTIVE days but I do stay more than 183 total days each year?

   If I must pay, can I get a tax number to get an exemption? Do I need a kitas to get a tax number? but i do not work here – (only taking care of my family) so can my wife sponser me to get a kitas…? Then I can get a number to be exempt from the exit tax…? is this how it works.?

   Otherwise I am forced to leave my wife and kids here alone.

   Thanks so so much – this is critical for us all.

9. Suryo Perkoso Says:
   July 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm

   I’m surprised the anally retentive kermit hasn’t stuck his hooter in on this one.

   You need to be a little careful here – in theory, yes you do have to pay fiscal, but immigration are taking very easy line with this – in most airports you can just blank it and walk straight past the fiscal check desk. If you get into the KITAS game then whilst you won’t have any income in Indo, you in theory could have an income from outside that you may have to declare if you have an NPWP – to be quite frank with you I would tend to stay away from the KITAS and NPWP game if you can, and go for a multi business visa which can be arranged for about US$300, and will give you 60 days non extendable visa. OK, there is still a requirement for your wife to make a report strangely if you live in your house without a WNI then the requirement seems to sort of vanish – and in truth if you have a reasonable relationship with the local plod, then no one gives a toss.

   Persoanlly in your situation I would tend to steer clear of the KITAS/NWP route – yes, your wife can sponsor you, you start with a SOSBUD, extend it a couple of times, then go for “mutasi” to a KITAS, of course then you are stuck, you can’t go anywhere while the application is being made, and then you become also “known” to immigration.

   Whilst i’d not normally recommend any agent ( the majority are a bunch of bin scrapping mouse hounds, like old noodle neck) – I would recommend you speak to Ratna of Rami services who is pretty on the ball and not over the top price wise.

   (Just looking at that, I seem to imply that Ratna is “pretty” – this is NOT the case, she is a bit of a monster, but she is reasonably clued up)

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